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For photoperiod plants after germination/solo cup time do you go straight to the final container like a 5 gallon pot or do you gradually increase size like 1, 3, and then 5 gallon?

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It's done both ways, some like to up pot several times, I personally go from the germ cup to the final pot. Watering a small plant in a large pot has to be done carefully, you water arond the edges of the pot, not so much the middle. You want to get the roots to expand and search for water.
 
For photoperiod plants after germination/solo cup time do you go straight to the final container like a 5 gallon pot or do you gradually increase size like 1, 3, and then 5 gallon?

Thanks

Depends on the plant and what my plans for it are. Standard run? Clone? Mother? Monster? Standard run I up-pot from solo to 1 gallon to 3 gallon and then I look at the plant as to whether I want to step up to 5 or 7 or just leave it there the rest of the grow. Mothers I'll park in a 3 gallon, just big enough for them to grow branches I can pillage. Monsters are a longer term proposition and I want plenty of room for roots to stretch out and feed all those branches so I incrementally take them up to 7 gallon.
 
Depends on the plant and what my plans for it are. Standard run? Clone? Mother? Monster? Standard run I up-pot from solo to 1 gallon to 3 gallon and then I look at the plant as to whether I want to step up to 5 or 7 or just leave it there the rest of the grow. Mothers I'll park in a 3 gallon, just big enough for them to grow branches I can pillage. Monsters are a longer term proposition and I want plenty of room for roots to stretch out and feed all those branches so I incrementally take them up to 7 gallon.
Thanks! this will be my first grow, Ive got a 4x4 AC Infinity setup and am planning on running 4 photoperiod plants and scroging them.

For fabric pots is it worth trying to save them or just cut them and not stress out the plant out. Also while up sizing you don't disturb the root ball like you would when repotting a normal plant correct?
 
Thanks! this will be my first grow, Ive got a 4x4 AC Infinity setup and am planning on running 4 photoperiod plants and scroging them.

For fabric pots is it worth trying to save them or just cut them and not stress out the plant out. Also while up sizing you don't disturb the root ball like you would when repotting a normal plant correct?

I'm a cheapskate, I recycle everything. I use plastic pots until the final home just because they pop out so easy. If you're doing cloth you'll probably want to slit the bag on opposite sides and if you want to reuse you can probably hold it together with a couple velco straps around the pot and when you want to up-pot the next time just remove the velcro. Haven't done this, just thinking how you might reuse if you cut. The issue a couple fellow growers here have told me they've run into is roots growing into the fabric and it's too traumatic for the plant to free them. Again, not a problem I've personally run into because I'm up-potting out of plastic. This might be worth mentioning, I wiggle them out like it's a can of cranberry sauce that I want to serve intact.. I do it toward the end of a dryback and the ball holds together nicely... and one lesson I learned is you do want to untangle some roots because I harvested a couple plants I didn't do that and the roots never really ventured out into the new soil, they grew like they were potted into pots made of dirt.
 
A few folks are making zippered and Velcro 1 gallon fabric pots just made for up potting.
I know Vivosun came out with split pots
 
Amazing, those ones in particular are an investment, in normal growing they'll literally last a lifetime, the rooting from them is a different level to regular plastic pots, there's a lot of poor copies they're either the real deal or good copy.
Those look really cool I may have to give them a try down the line
 
Those look really cool I may have to give them a try down the line
Ive had them in my cart to buy a few times but wasnt sure. $90 for 5/5 gal but Im going to pull the trigger on them now.
 
I like to get them into the final pot, roots growing around the pot or out the bottom I see as a missed opportunity 🤷‍♂️
Are you guys familiar with chat gpt or grok?
They're a valuable source of grow related information, you can ask questions you can't google, well you could but it's a search not a reply tailored to your question and follow up questions...pfft forget it 😄

So I put the questions in the op to chat gpt, to prevent overly complicated replies i went on the assumption moisture is kept ideal, here's what it said....
Fantastic question — this gets right to the heart of root development strategy and plant physiology. 👇

Assuming moisture is perfectly managed (so no watering complications), there are still real biological differences between multiple pot-ups (stepping up) and direct-to-final-pot planting.


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🌱 1. Multiple Pot-Ups — the “Root Training” Approach

When you transplant several times (for example, solo cup → 1 gal → 3 gal → final pot):

Advantages

Denser, more efficient root structure: Roots hit the pot edges sooner, branch, and fill space evenly — fewer dead zones.

Faster vegetative growth early on: Smaller pots warm faster, dry faster, and allow ideal oxygen levels early in life.

Less wasted media: You’re not maintaining large volumes of unused soil for tiny seedlings.


Potential downsides

Each transplant causes minor stress (unless done gently).

Roots get “reset” at every step — they pause for a few days to rebuild fine hairs.

More labor, time, and handling risk.


✅ Best for: optimizing root structure and speed in short- to mid-veg cycles, especially if the final pot is large (7 gal+).


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🌿 2. Direct to Final Pot — the “Natural Expansion” Approach

When a seedling goes straight into its forever home:

Advantages

Zero transplant shock.

Continuous, uninterrupted growth curve — no pauses from repotting.

Roots adapt to the full soil ecosystem early, which helps with microbe symbiosis and long-term stability.


Potential downsides

Early on, the plant’s roots may not use the entire pot, leaving zones that stay too wet or cold.

Root density near the base can be uneven (especially in plastic pots).

Growth can be a bit slower early in veg until the root mass expands enough to “find” the pot walls.


✅ Best for: long-term grows, large containers with good aeration (Air Pots, fabric pots), or automated watering setups.


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⚖️ 3. If Moisture and Aeration Are Perfect (as you said)

Then direct planting into the final pot is typically superior because:

There’s no transplant stress.

Roots can expand freely and continuously.

The micro-environment (rhizosphere) forms more mature and balanced microbial networks early on.


The only thing you’d lose is that little root density boost you get from early containment, which Air Pots and fabric pots already provide via air pruning.


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🌼 Summary

Method Pros Cons Best Use

Multiple pot-ups Compact root ball, fast early growth More work, minor shock Short veg, small containers
Direct to final No shock, stable rhizosphere Slightly slower start Long veg or large pots (especially air/fabric)



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So if watering and aeration are dialed in, go straight into the final Air Pot — you’ll get continuous growth and stronger soil biology from day one.

Would you like me to outline a simple “best practice” method for transplanting directly into a large Air Pot (to avoid slow starts or root wandering)?
 
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