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I have a post around here somewhere that showed % of flowering
for early plantings here in socal;
I'll just kinda make this up,
but it was similar:
first week in feb = ~95% flowered,
~2nd week in feb = ~60% flowered,
~3rd week in feb = ~40% flowered,
~4th week in feb = ~10% flowered,
first week in March = 0% flowered--
waiting a few weeks for preflowers...
 
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All I can say is that is not at all my experience in growing from seed, which I do every season, outside. I have yet to have a seedling that isn't an auto simply start flowering on me.
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You must plant late in the spring then.

I used to get a spring crop of buds, start them indoors and then put outdoors at the start of the last week of winter or the start of spring.
They would flower and I would get a harvest of buds by the start of the last month of spring.
A more indica variety is best for this as they don't revert to veg easily when the days get longer, but I have done it with success with Skunk #1 from Dutch Passion; most of them stayed in flower, but you would get about 20% that would revert to veg half way through flowering.

Your yield depends on how big the plants are when you put them out, but a plant that is one foot tall when you put it outdoors will give you just a main centre cola.
Obviously a three foot tall plant put outdoors would give you a much bigger yield, but I had to smuggle them out to the woods, so they had to be small enough to fit in a cardboard box.
 
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You must plant late in the spring then.
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Is the first week of March, which according to my calendar still falls during winter, late in spring..?? Huh.
 
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Yea so Im not complaing Im actually happy to see this!!!
 

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Plants started from seed in late Feburary outdoors should not flower. Days are getting longer and the plants know this. Stress could possibly cause this but still not likely. Most likely due to genetics, (auto flower).
 
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Plants started from seed in late Feburary outdoors should not flower. Days are getting longer and the plants know this. Stress could possibly cause this but still not likely. Most likely due to genetics, (auto flower).
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I'm in the southern hemisphere, so I'm trying to work out what time of year end of February is to you, end of winter for you I think.

Firstly I was talking about seedlings being put outdoors, as no guerilla grower plants out seeds, little sprouts are too at risk of being eaten by rodents, bugs, birds etc.
Guerilla growers put out 1 foot high seedlings or clones.

Even in your backyard, I wouldn't reccomend planting seeds directly in the soil, better to have them in small pots to start, which is what the op has done I think.

So when I talk about outdoor planting times, I'm talking about planting out a 8 inch or more seedling or clone in the ground or a big pot, as that is what just about everyone does.

Sure if you put a seed in the ground outdoors, it will take a week to pop the surface, for the first week it will be only about 3 cm high, so that's two weeks it will not be able to flower, and in that two weeks the days are getting longer, so maybe by the time it gets to about 6 inches tall and is old enough to flower then the days will be too long.

Depends on the strain.

The Afghani #1's from Sensi I put out last year, I put out about 10 days after the middle of spring, and they vegged for about three weeks and got to about 3 foot tall and then went fully into flower.
I think they would have stayed in flower and not revegged too, but I didn't get to see that as a ripper found them so I had to move them inside and finish them there.

Now Afghani #1 is not an autoflower, if you keep it under 24 hours light it will not flower, I know as I have had a clone mother of it going for over a year, and no sign of flowering.

It's just one of these strains that when it reaches a certain height it will start to flower even if the daylight hours are over 13. But as I said it wont flower under 24 hours of light.

But plants don't sense the days getting longer and stay in veg, they produce a flowering hormone in the dark hours, a hormone that is destroyed by light, and when they are in an environment where the flowering hormone can build up to a higher level than the daylight can destroy, due to the long nights and short days, then they will flower.
 
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I'm in the southern hemisphere, so I'm trying to work out what time of year end of February is to you, end of winter for you I think.

Firstly I was talking about seedlings being put outdoors, as no guerilla grower plants out seeds, little sprouts are too at risk of being eaten by rodents, bugs, birds etc.
Guerilla growers put out 1 foot high seedlings or clones.

Even in your backyard, I wouldn't reccomend planting seeds directly in the soil, better to have them in small pots to start, which is what the op has done I think.

So when I talk about outdoor planting times, I'm talking about planting out a 8 inch or more seedling or clone in the ground or a big pot, as that is what just about everyone does.

Sure if you put a seed in the ground outdoors, it will take a week to pop the surface, for the first week it will be only about 3 cm high, so that's two weeks it will not be able to flower, and in that two weeks the days are getting longer, so maybe by the time it gets to about 6 inches tall and is old enough to flower then the days will be too long.

Depends on the strain.

The Afghani #1's from Sensi I put out last year, I put out about 10 days after the middle of spring, and they vegged for about three weeks and got to about 3 foot tall and then went fully into flower.
I think they would have stayed in flower and not revegged too, but I didn't get to see that as a ripper found them so I had to move them inside and finish them there.

Now Afghani #1 is not an autoflower, if you keep it under 24 hours light it will not flower, I know as I have had a clone mother of it going for over a year, and no sign of flowering.

It's just one of these strains that when it reaches a certain height it will start to flower even if the daylight hours are over 13. But as I said it wont flower under 24 hours of light.

But plants don't sense the days getting longer and stay in veg, they produce a flowering hormone in the dark hours, a hormone that is destroyed by light, and when they are in an environment where the flowering hormone can build up to a higher level than the daylight can destroy, due to the long nights and short days, then they will flower.[/QUO

Ive read it depends on the last frost and the equinox of the sun. In my area thats late march so i planted then in the ground. When she sprouted I put her in an 8-inch pot then she got about three nodes high I put in a 10 inch pot then she grew some more and I put her in a two and a half gallon pot shes in now. Lst & topped at least 3xs. I can see 6 strong looking colas coming.. First EVER grow super happy.. Ill keep u guys updated
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Here's 3 clones that were put out on March 12,
from under artificial light:


...flowering, and expecting re-veg shortly:


Vigorous MedMan's Og,
planted outside under natural sunlight on March 5;
expected to be sexed and planted in about two weeks:

MedMan's Og compared to volunteer,
popped up early/mid February:


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Looking good there Geo!!!
 
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Looking good there Geo!!!
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Them's yer iScream and Mango Tango clones there--
24 hours of light to whatever they're in now got a good flowering...

*** ADDENDUMB***
It was probably more like mid January/early February
when that volunteer popped-up;
usually takes me a week or two before I see 'em--
I've usually stepped on a bunch before that...
 
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I can bring you some fresh clones in June so you don't have to deal with revege Geo.
 
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Re-vegging can be challenging,
and fun if it's only a few of 'em...
...takes me about two months of custom pruning to, ah, "fix it";
pruning a plant with opposite phyllotaxy is Mechanical,
pruning a plant with alternate phyllotaxy is Art;
pruning a re-vegged plant is like--
Esher Art...





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