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Really high Ph what should I do

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#21
Buddy... you have to do something awful funny to swing soil ph that hard, I used to test for it.
I use https://hannainst.com/hi3895-quick-soil-test-kit.html now, I used to use a $10 Lowes one. Both work WAY BETTER than a pen. Don't use pen tests at all I stopped.
I hardly even test anymore so a 10 test kit is near unlimited, buy 2.
IF SOMEHOW (lol) you did turbofuck your soil, just build another pot of your mix. then (man this is fun I saw this once, said I'd never do it, and was doing it 10 days later)...
take the root ball gently out of the pot you have it in and wash the soil off the roots by hand and don't break ANYTHING IT'S ALL SUPER DELICATE!!!!!!
Put the plant in the new soil and attempt to hand sift soil and roots together while lowering it into the pot. All the while add a TINY amount of rooting powder near but not on roots.
WATER WITH NO NUTES.
She'll acclimate in a few days. Or die. Looks like it's dying and you can't fix it with small steps.
OR

You're wrong.



Remember to have fun out there and use your gut!
 
#22
Could you post a pic of the entire plant? Issues like these happen over a period of days to weeks. If your lady was dying from high alkaline soil it would have to have been that high for some time. I'd guess the Ph spike is a byproduct of a different issue.

Only spike i've had in soil was outside when it had been raining for days on end. Had to repot.
 
#23
TannedViking said:
Could you post a pic of the entire plant? Issues like these happen over a period of days to weeks. If your lady was dying from high alkaline soil it would have to have been that high for some time. I'd guess the Ph spike is a byproduct of a different issue.

Only spike i've had in soil was outside when it had been raining for days on end. Had to repot.
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TannedViking said:
Could you post a pic of the entire plant? Issues like these happen over a period of days to weeks. If your lady was dying from high alkaline soil it would have to have been that high for some time. I'd guess the Ph spike is a byproduct of a different issue.

Only spike i've had in soil was outside when it had been raining for days on end. Had to repot.
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Not sure if its nitrogen toxicity all the leaves are clawing inward now and they are really dry
 
#25
This looks more like a K lockout to me than an N tox. You can see the one in the corner starting to show the same problem. If i had to flat out guess I'd say there's a load of Magnesium and/or Calcium going in. This can raise Ph in soil if its pretty consistent and can in turn cause Potassium lockouts. But its still a guess, so

Stokes already asked, but what nutes are you using? And how much?
What medium?
How much do you water and when? How long does she take to dry up?
 
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TannedViking said:
This looks more like a K lockout to me than an N tox. You can see the one in the corner starting to show the same problem. If i had to flat out guess I'd say there's a load of Magnesium and/or Calcium going in. This can raise Ph in soil if its pretty consistent and can in turn cause Potassium lockouts. But its still a guess, so

Stokes already asked, but what nutes are you using? And how much?
What medium?
How much do you water and when? How long does she take to dry up?
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Im not using nutes anymore I stopped when they started clawing and drying... I was using 1 teaspoon of 10/15/10 NPK

Im using a mycoactive soil (Promix) feeds for 9month it says on the bag but I couldnt find the ratios anywhere

I water only when the soil is dry on top (about 5 centimeters) and I always water before turning out the grow lights on a 18/6 cycle since 4 weeks
 
#27
Feeds what for 9 months...
Where did the problems start on new leafs or bottom old leafs
 
#28
Seen this specific Promix pop up here and there. It's got slow release nutes for a total of 9 months which is nice if you're growing plants in beds but not your ladies. It's made to be watered with plain water the entire time.
Using this soil and then adding even more nutes has burned her out, unfortunately. All your ladies in pots with this soil with get the same issues. If you really want to safe them, repot, but this late in flower it might do even more harm :/

Find a soil that has maybe a week of nutes at most and a good amount of perlite added to it.
 
#29
In late to this party. Sorry your plant is giving you trouble. Somebody else might have suggested this... If you repot that plant with some fresh potting soil, that will get the roots back into a buffered environment. The plant has been stressed out pretty hard so I can't guarantee you the additional shock won't kill it, but I think it's got a good chance pulling through with some corrections. Once you get it in fresh dirt, don't give it any nutes for at least a month. The soil will have everything it needs during recovery. And you probably know this, but as a reminder... don't go crazy with the watering. Let the dirt get good and dry in between. If you aren't sure about watering frequency, wait until it starts to wilt a little before you water... and then when you do, pour slowly and in increments to rehydrate the dirt. Water can't instantly penetrate dry dirt. It has to wicker in slowly. Good luck and keep us posted!
 
#30
Ive said it a million times. People run into this all the time on here because they try to feed amended soils. Dont feed your plants until they ask for it. Especially in veg. Also, if you buy amended soil-use nutrient lines that were designed to play nice with it. Not all nutrients are derived the same way, and ratios need to be maintained (especially with bottled nutrients.

Next time just pick up a bale of the straight HPCC and some mega crop. Also, if you intend to use bottled nutrients an ec meter is a must unless youā€™re familiar enough with growing to see whether the plant is asking for more or less
 
#31
Ninjadogma said:
In late to this party. Sorry your plant is giving you trouble. Somebody else might have suggested this... If you repot that plant with some fresh potting soil, that will get the roots back into a buffered environment. The plant has been stressed out pretty hard so I can't guarantee you the additional shock won't kill it, but I think it's got a good chance pulling through with some corrections. Once you get it in fresh dirt, don't give it any nutes for at least a month. The soil will have everything it needs during recovery. And you probably know this, but as a reminder... don't go crazy with the watering. Let the dirt get good and dry in between. If you aren't sure about watering frequency, wait until it starts to wilt a little before you water... and then when you do, pour slowly and in increments to rehydrate the dirt. Water can't instantly penetrate dry dirt. It has to wicker in slowly. Good luck and keep us posted!
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I dont know if i agree with ā€˜good and dryā€™, the only time thatā€™s applicable is with coco, and youā€™re having good runoff each feeding. Otherwise it spikes EC. Dry substrate is terrible for organic growing
 
#32
I will try coco next time I think

I wont repot it for now cause its in early flowering I washed the soil multiple times and now the new leaves look somewhat healty

But one of my plant is doing very well in that soil I never fed her any nutes the fan leaves are larger than my hands and I have big hands and it has 8 bud sites (all I did was topping first week and LST)
 
#33
@FleshLite Dude... you have to figure out how to grow in a Fleshlite now. The universe demands it. We have to find a thread to allow the pics too lol, total adult themed grow. Also do one of those rubber half torso things, two holes there!
 
#34
ChairmanFester said:
@FleshLite Dude... you have to figure out how to grow in a Fleshlite now. The universe demands it. We have to find a thread to allow the pics too lol, total adult themed grow. Also do one of those rubber half torso things, two holes there!
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Well its doable for sure I seen a dude on youtube growing plant in red cups from seed to harvest. But I dont really wanna spend money on a fleshlight and definitly dont wanna buy a used one from marketplace
 
#35
You are just gonna fill it with dirt after all... or coco or something...
 
#36
FleshLite said:
I will try coco next time I think

I wont repot it for now cause its in early flowering I washed the soil multiple times and now the new leaves look somewhat healty

But one of my plant is doing very well in that soil I never fed her any nutes the fan leaves are larger than my hands and I have big hands and it has 8 bud sites (all I did was topping first week and LST)
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That's good! Just keep watering plain and you should be fine. If she holds up well through flower on it, no reason not to use it like that but it could get weird with whats available to her in that soil. I'd still go for something canna specific tho.
 
#37
Found out what my problem was this morning... the new jug I bought for watering is in liter... I was giving wayyyyy too much nutes, more than twice the quantity I shouldve add to the water
 
#38
FleshLite said:
Found out what my problem was this morning... the new jug I bought for watering is in liter... I was giving wayyyyy too much nutes, more than twice the quantity I shouldve add to the water
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Thus the problem in measuring in communist.
 
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