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There are couple things here that have not been touched upon. I have noticed that the 1-3 seed thing is called,"Security Seeds." It's basically were the plant does not show any pollen or nanners and you just end up finding a seed or two in the couple ounces you grew. This happens to me in most of my grows but I also used to run a lot of different strains at one time but never have any males in my rooms. I even keep the males at an entirely different house 70 miles away. I think most of the seeds we have today are hermie genes, they just don't always express themselves. This might sound strange but the dankest stuff I have smoked, all had hermie tendencies.
The Security Seed thing is strange because the plant shows no hermie tendencies, you just end up with a couple seeds and they are deep within the calyx of the bud. This has to be a survival instinct of the plant.
The second thing I wanted to talk about is the Reverse Male. A Reverse Male is a male that has balls, shows complete male sex, then when you go to flip it, it starts throwing pistols and white hairs. They are basically the complete opposite of a regular hermie, female who shows balls later. They are usually sterile and I have only had one but I have heard they are great to breed with because the offspring is mostly female and the hermie tendency in the offspring is almost nil. Djshort has used reverse males in his breeding and they produce dank. I believe they are still a hermie but a valuable hermie because they cancel out of pollen and nanner problem and lets be honest, the reason we want seedless bud is because it sells and no one wants to smoke seeds. All in all, if I found another reverse male, I would keep it. They are rare but not completely impossible to find.
Interesting Read Pal...Please Elaborate on what a Reverse Male is? Thanks in advance
Ok folks, I have a question. The Blackberry kush x ARC male I selected has started looking a little different. I'm worried that it could be a true herm.
Here is the top:
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But def a male...:
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Here is a pic of the top of the male GSC x ARC for comparison:
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Any info would be greatly appreciated!
im tripping out on the reversed male if im reading this correctly i to had a male fool blown man and i needed my timer in my room cuz it took a shit so i took it out and manualy started slipping up and not turning it off on time the male became also female and it seeded up???? wowUp until a few months ago i had pictures and a full thread with documentation of my reversal male unfortunetly in a recent upgrade of the site most of the pix where lost altho the thread is still there.
Doesnt matter regardless lots of peeps witnessed the grow and what happened and could speak on it thats not what relevant.
Whata relevant is i do have these pix left one shows the male first starting out male it grew all the way up until week View attachment 350965 4-5 when it started opening sax and dropping pollen at which time it began to throw pistils and stopped makeing sax and dropping pollen and began makeing nuggsites, full on nuggz where the sack clusters where and by time i killed it( thinking it was just a hermi bytch plant) it actually resembled - was a female plant in every repsect of the word there where no more male parts on the plant till this day i kick myself in the ass for killing the plant but i did so in freak out mode not wanting to pollenate my crop any further with hermi beans.
What i wish i did was keep the plant to see if in fact a clone would have grown as a female.
And what would have happened in the offspring of the female plant if i could have pollenated the plant because the offspring the plant made in male mode with the pollen it did drop made perfectly good male and female offspring matter of fact better than good in my eyes no hermi traits in 300beans i have popped personally but i would have liked to known if the same non hermi tendencies would have contiued in the female version of the plants offspring. I will never know now.
Anyway heres the 2 pix i have and i have them only cuz i had a journal at another site showing what i thought was a hermi!
Looks like hermi here but shows what NMCView attachment 350966 was just talking about.
I also seen the article about dj short speaking on this i cant explain any of it im just showing what actually in fact did happen.
I still have a grip of the regular f1 reversal beans that the actual reversal male made too it is what it is wish i had a pic of the plant in full female mode tho.
Hope this helps to kinda elaborate what NMC was speaking on.
Peace
I have only spoken with a few people to date that have any knowledge of this occuring personally have u seen a male reverse? And do u know if the female version has been pollenated and the offspring grown and what results where of said offspring?Don't ever scrap a male that throws pistils. Use the pollen on a female, then do testing with the offspring. You'll know from the offspring if it was a hermie or not. The females will be females but some of the males will be reverse in the off spring. That's just how it goes.
Hey guys good morning :)
Here's a great book that covers all of this.
I'm with Manic on this one. No such thing as a reverse male.....it's simply a male hermie. Both male and females can herm. If the male wasn't reversed, it shouldn't be called a reverse male. One reason we don't see males herm as often is because most growers throw the males out as soon as sex is determined.
The reverse male that I had was naturally occurring. I did not know it was a male, all I knew at the time was that it was very smelly and greasy. I could tell it was going to be dank so I assumed it was a female. Once it matured, it had presacks just like when a female matures it has pre flowers. I was pretty excited because I was thinking that this is the dankest male I have ever seen in my life. Well, I took a single cutting and rooted it. I then put the male on 12/12. After about two weeks it started to sprout pistols and white hairs. I was like WTF. Then I did some reading and found out about the reverse male. I took it outside but I ended up missing the opportunity to retrieve pollen. I didn't mind because I still had the clone. We'll something happened in my life and I could not tend to my plants and since it was a little guy, the damn thing died from neglect. I tried to save it but it was too late. I still wish I had it. I should have said it but yes, the reverse male is a hermie. I'm not talking about artificially inducing flowers on a male, I'm talking about a naturally occurring male that sprouts flowers during the flip. A female that produces balls during the flip would be a hermie as most people know it and are avoided like the plague.I have only spoken with a few people to date that have any knowledge of this occuring personally have u seen a male reverse? And do u know if the female version has been pollenated and the offspring grown and what results where of said offspring?
Its been killing me to think what it would have produced in female form as well as if the cut would have continued to grow female if cloned. My guess would be yes to the cloneing part i would have loved to grow a bean from that plant tho! Damn! If only haha i think alot of peeps scrap them not knowing what up becuz thats the usual typical consensus true hermie and they get killed quickly i know mine did for that reason it did get killed out of lack of knowledge or education on my part because there is little knowledge available on this.
Ill be kicking myself in the ass for a long time on that tho!
Thanks for the input man much apprechiated.
Peace
Remember Jurassic Park? There was no way there could be male dinosaurs because of genetic engineering they were using. Then Jeff Goldbloom taught them all a lesson about chaos theory.[/quote
Ive been wanting to mention Jurassic Park since this thread started lol. :lurking:
Remember Jurassic Park? There was no way there could be male dinosaurs because of genetic engineering they were using. Then Jeff Goldbloom taught them all a lesson about chaos theory.
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