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Looks like that,soil looks compacted,i guess it reatins moisture lot longer,also hardening the baby roots to grow.You should make it more...flufy somehow:)May be its not so crappy,looking rich but when watered it gets compacted.Ad more holes on the sides of the pots,you can dig the surface around the plants a little to promote some air....Leave them dry longer,as long as needed before next watering.When you transplant you can improve the soil aeration with more perlite and such....After reading some stuff on the forums, I'm worried it could be damping off. Maybe I just overwatered my crappy soil from outside?
Be very delicate with your fragil seedlings , i would carefully plop the whole container sideways on a newspaper , then take a pencil or something and surgically remove heavy soil , then mist them with a hand sprayer and delicately place them in a deep hole that youve made in the promix or perlite promix or whatever light medium you use , bury a little deep so as to support the stem , dont water by pouring water on them , pre moisten medium and then givr a delicate mist to continue for a few days till babies are settled in ....Thanks for the help!
Any tips on transplanting to better soil? Should I try to shake off some of the old soil from the roots or just plop em in a bigger pot?
Be very delicate with your fragil seedlings , i would carefully plop the whole container sideways on a newspaper , then take a pencil or something and surgically remove heavy soil , then mist them with a hand sprayer and delicately place them in a deep hole that youve made in the promix or perlite promix or whatever light medium you use , bury a little deep so as to support the stem , dont water by pouring water on them , pre moisten medium and then givr a delicate mist to continue for a few days till babies are settled in ....
It will work , be gentle
Try to remove as much of the surrounding dirt around theroots, but if the roots and dirt are stuck together, take the dirt and all. Most growers startin cups or smaller pots, although I don't personally. With that being said, I have been doing this for a while now and I'm probably the exception to the rule. Gnerally speaking, most growers like to start in a smaller container, like a solo cup, and up-pot them once or twice then into their final home. I plant my sprouts directly into a 5 gallon bucket of pre hydrated and amended Promix. As the seedling grows it follows the water, which slowly dries up over the next week or so. After a month, I usually have roots coming out of the bottom drain holes. I use Promix which is almost impossible to overwater, but will hold enough water for good growth. It doesn't have any nutrients in it, so you need to feed your plants, which is another topic altogether. Go easy on the nutes and you should be OK. You will be surprised how quickly things can grow when you have happy roots and plenty of light!Are you saying remove all of the current soil or just some?
And would it be worth it to just move em to the 3-gal fabric pots I'm planning on growing em out in now? Or solo cups until they're bigger?
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Unless the plant is falling over, ther isn't a need to bury it any deeper. If it does fall over, just mound some dirt/medium around the stem to support it. Within a few days it will be strong enough to stand on it's own, although you seem to be OK. I always mention NOT to "help" the seed from the shell, it is nearly impossible to do it without damaging the seedling, as you have discovered. Seedlings can split rocks... they can split their seed shell as well. If the seedling is suffering that much just shedding a shell, it is probably defective to begin with. Only time will tell if it will recover, but they are often small dwarf plants that don't seem to grow well.Here's an update:
Unfortunately the one that damped off never recovered with the new soil. But the other two are looking good!
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Couple questions if any experts still around:
And thanks again for teaching me the lesson of bad soil. It may not look like much, but these plants are growing a lot faster than before. Probably because now they can build roots!
- The taller one got maybe too tall from not having enough light early on. Is it a good idea to bury it with some more soil? Is it ok to bury lower leaves? Will this help the roots? I mainly just want to make efficient use of my vertical space (~2.5ft soil to light) in case it turns out female.
- The shorter one looks pretty wonky. I had to help this one out of the seed shell and it may have suffered a bit from that. But if anyone recognizes a problem with this one, please let me know :) The leaves are slightly yellower than the tall one but still pretty green.
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