Simple all on one organic for autos?

AZreefer · Jul 27, 2024

Im setting up for my next run. I want to try some autos next. I ordered some f1s from royalqueenseed.com. i was thinking about a 3gal pot and living soil concentrate with potting medium. Natures living autoflower is readily available and i have some cocoloco left from my current grow. Is that overkill for autos? Im looking to set up an effictive water only organic for autos. My grow nubie and hero pothead status both make me need to set up an efficent water only grow to be sucessful.

Id love to hear some thoughts and suggestions on a simple way to set this up for autos.

Thanks farmily.

KVBR · Jul 27, 2024

AZreefer said:
Im setting up for my next run. I want to try some autos next. I ordered some f1s from royalqueenseed.com. i was thinking about a 3gal pot and living soil concentrate with potting medium. Natures living autoflower is readily available and i have some cocoloco left from my current grow. Is that overkill for autos? Im looking to set up an effictive water only organic for autos. My grow nubie and hero pothead status both make me need to set up an efficent water only grow to be sucessful.

Id love to hear some thoughts and suggestions on a simple way to set this up for autos.

Thanks farmily.

I'm a rookie and only have 2 grows under my belt (and a bunch of veggie grows), but just make your own soil, and keep the watering on schedule. 3-5 gal pots will get the job done.

BTW, I grew the Epsilon F1 from RQS for my first grow and they didn't do well. Two plants yielded .5 oz....I screwed up a bunch of things (mainly watering) so it's not a knock on them. I"m going to grow the two more epsilon f1 seeds this next grow and if it's the same result, I"ll know what's up.

In pic #1 Look at the two plants in the foreground. Those are the Epsilon F1 in 6.6 gallon pots.

Pic #2 - NL auto from RQS in 5 gallon

Good luck!

AZreefer · Jul 28, 2024

KVBR said:
I'm a rookie and only have 2 grows under my belt (and a bunch of veggie grows), but just make your own soil, and keep the watering on schedule. 3-5 gal pots will get the job done.

BTW, I grew the Epsilon F1 from RQS for my first grow and they didn't do well. Two plants yielded .5 oz....I screwed up a bunch of things (mainly watering) so it's not a knock on them. I"m going to grow the two more epsilon f1 seeds this next grow and if it's the same result, I"ll know what's up.

In pic #1 Look at the two plants in the foreground. Those are the Epsilon F1 in 6.6 gallon pots.

Pic #2 - NL auto from RQS in 5 gallon

Good luck!

Building a soil is currently out of the scope of my comfort level. There are many fine options available for purchase. Did you use build a soil? Ive read that you need a 15 gallon pot to have a large enough resivour of nutes to have a realistic water only grow.

Building a soil seems more advanced a practice for my 2nd grow. Other than adding a super soil concentrate. This will be my first try with autos so im all about setting myself up for sucess rather that struggle a double steep learning curve.

How did your NL auto turn out? Rqs Gave me 10 of those so that is my 3rd run.

Galgrows · Jul 28, 2024

3gal pots are fine for autos. Did you ever combine those 2 mediums before? How rich are those 2 soils?

Natep · Jul 28, 2024

I just started two city picker pots that will be water only. I will be running build a soil 3.0 recipe. I amended with craft blend and mustard seed meal. I’ve ran there soil several times in the past. The city picker pots are cool because they are self watering. So you only took water during veg. Then you fill the reservoir that hold 2 gallons of water then when completely empty you refill.

AZreefer · Jul 28, 2024

Galgrows said:
3gal pots are fine for autos. Did you ever combine those 2 mediums before? How rich are those 2 soils?

Im currently using the mediums i mentioned except im using the natures living concentrate. They also make one for autoflowers. I imagine its less nutrient dense? I was going to weigh any suggestions vs the forementioned combo.
I can not speak as to how rich they are because i do not know what metric to gauge that by. Lol. I dont know rich from broke potting mediums. I got the suggestion on a simple super soil tutorial. Cocoloco and natures living were suggested as a simple water only grow.

I was hoping someone on the farm has a similar simple combo available somewhere other than amazon i should be checking.

RootFarmer · Jul 28, 2024

This might help when thinking about building your own soil. The structure of my soil is built around this concept.

Your choice of amendments can affect soil structure also. For example, peat moss or coco are dual purpose in that they can provide both water and air as your soil goes thru the wet/dry cycle. Make sense?

KVBR · Jul 28, 2024

AZreefer said:
Building a soil is currently out of the scope of my comfort level. There are many fine options available for purchase. Did you use build a soil? Ive read that you need a 15 gallon pot to have a large enough resivour of nutes to have a realistic water only grow.

Building a soil seems more advanced a practice for my 2nd grow. Other than adding a super soil concentrate. This will be my first try with autos so im all about setting myself up for sucess rather that struggle a double steep learning curve.

How did your NL auto turn out? Rqs Gave me 10 of those so that is my 3rd run.

The NL auto turned out fine and it's on like day 15 of drying. I didn't have any issues with the plants other than me being away for a week so they got starved for water a little bit. But the yield was pretty good, smoke tastes smooth and gets the job done.

I did build my own soil.......and building a soil isn't as hard as one thinks.

50-60% Peat moss
20% perlite
15% compost
15% wormcasting

I top dressed w/Craft blend and wormcastings every couple weeks.....then just watered. But I watched all of buildasoil.com videos on YouTube and it was very informative and helpful. Their products are legit, although you only need a fraction of what they offer (mainly compost, cowoco, craft blend).

AZreefer · Jul 29, 2024

Galgrows said:
3gal pots are fine for autos. Did you ever combine those 2 mediums before? How rich are those 2 soils?

I encountered a wise owl who has made me see a peat based potting soil over the coir will be more beneficial to microbial life.

Natep · Jul 29, 2024

I really think you should relook at the build a soil way. I believe it is the easiest most straight forward way and it ends up being pretty cost effective.

AZreefer · Jul 29, 2024

Natep said:
I really think you should relook at the build a soil way. I believe it is the easiest most straight forward way and it ends up being pretty cost effective.

WHich build a soil? Like make my own? Or builasoil.com i looked into build a soil 3.0. I dont remember off the top of my head why i thought maybe it wasnt the best for the 3gallon auto grow im planning. I know there was a reason i just cant recall at the moment. Or if you mean making my own im just not prepared to have that steep of a learning curve on my first auto grow ever.

Im not debating the effectivness of a product or making small of any suggestions.

Natep · Jul 29, 2024

AZreefer said:
WHich build a soil? Like make my own? Or builasoil.com i looked into build a soil 3.0. I dont remember off the top of my head why i thought maybe it wasnt the best for the 3gallon auto grow im planning. I know there was a reason i just cant recall at the moment. Or if you mean making my own im just not prepared to have that steep of a learning curve on my first auto grow ever.

Im not debating the effectivness of a product or making small of any suggestions.

.com. The 3.0 recipe. Do two ten gallon pots and reuse the soil for a couple years.

AZreefer · Jul 29, 2024

Natep said:
.com. The 3.0 recipe. Do two ten gallon pots and reuse the soil for a couple years.

Thats what it was. I cant do an entire run in a 3gal. Also this grow is going to determine the type of buckets i put on my rdwc system im going to occupy my tent with.

If i like growing untopped autos better than i do mainlined photos than im putting together a 9x 5 gallon bucket rdwc system and run autos all day.

Ive done the training of photos once now and i have reservations. Ill give autos in living soil a try before i make up my mind on the direction of my hydros.

Its weird because trying different styles of growing is a suggestion someone made on my welcome thread because i was so sure i knew what i was going to do based on shit i had read and assumptions i made. Ha. Now i see i need experience with watching how plants develope. So an auto grow it is. Then im trying hydros.

Natep · Jul 29, 2024

AZreefer said:
Thats what it was. I cant do an entire run in a 3gal. Also this grow is going to determine the type of buckets i put on my rdwc system im going to occupy my tent with.

If i like growing untopped autos better than i do mainlined photos than im putting together a 9x 5 gallon bucket rdwc system and run autos all day.

Ive done the training of photos once now and i have reservations. Ill give autos in living soil a try before i make up my mind on the direction of my hydros.

Its weird because trying different styles of growing is a suggestion someone made on my welcome thread because i was so sure i knew what i was going to do based on shit i had read and assumptions i made. Ha. Now i see i need experience with watching how plants develope. So an auto grow it is. Then im trying hydros.

You can do an entire run in 3 gals. But you will deplete the soil and you will have to replace it often. In a 11 gallon city picker pot I ran 5 cycles in there old take n bake recipe. Is there a reason you want to stay in 3 gallon pots?

AZreefer · Jul 30, 2024

Natep said:
You can do an entire run in 3 gals. But you will deplete the soil and you will have to replace it often. In a 11 gallon city picker pot I ran 5 cycles in there old take n bake recipe. Is there a reason you want to stay in 3 gallon pots?

Because im doing trial runs, because im going to overload my tent with 9x 3gallon pots and not top just defoliate. I dont want to LST my next grow and i want to eliminate as much canopy as possible and let each plant do its thing naturally. If this grow is sucessful with a harvest large enough to get the wife and i through another round of autos then im growing autos. If this method of growing suits me better then hydro system im building will get smaller buckets (5 gallon).

Also i thought i saw on the buildasoil they want you in a 15 for a water only.
Filling 9 15 or 10 gallons is too much.

I read that if i use a potting soil and living soil concentrate in a 3gallon. Im currently having good luck with natures living and was really hoping for similar brands that i cant find on my searches.

I must have looked at soils on google a 1000x before i jumped on here and read about biobizz. Why didnt that ever populate in my searches? So for that reason i put it out to the farm in hopes someone happened to have an easy supersoil suggestion.

Natep · Jul 30, 2024

AZreefer said:
Because im doing trial runs, because im going to overload my tent with 9x 3gallon pots and not top just defoliate. I dont want to LST my next grow and i want to eliminate as much canopy as possible and let each plant do its thing naturally. If this grow is sucessful with a harvest large enough to get the wife and i through another round of autos then im growing autos. If this method of growing suits me better then hydro system im building will get smaller buckets (5 gallon).

Also i thought i saw on the buildasoil they want you in a 15 for a water only.
Filling 9 15 or 10 gallons is too much.

I read that if i use a potting soil and living soil concentrate in a 3gallon. Im currently having good luck with natures living and was really hoping for similar brands that i cant find on my searches.

I must have looked at soils on google a 1000x before i jumped on here and read about biobizz. Why didnt that ever populate in my searches? So for that reason i put it out to the farm in hopes someone happened to have an easy supersoil suggestion.

I have the re open for the soil I made for my 160 gallon bed. If you want it?

AZreefer · Jul 30, 2024

Natep said:
I have the re open for the soil I made for my 160 gallon bed. If you want it?

Where you at? Is that feesible?

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