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It's not that it wouldn't be easy to do ... it probably would be. The bigger problem is being able to retain the heat in the greenhouse at night during a Michigan winter. I have an LP gas heater in there but it's not robust enough for adequate heating year round. Not to mention the cost of heating it at current LP prices. It's more to stretch a few extra weeks in the fall if it's needed.Lol the green house wouldn't be that hard to do at all, thanks 4 the info gramps but I was referring to winter solstice & beginning of flower?
I'm only doin 2 atm (at the moment) and can control that trigger and feeding them certain stuff that'll induce flower transition early if applied
Did you say ur in Michigan?Thank you!! I ordered some of the Tropicana fast and will try it this summer. Still going to try scrog on big tank I think
I completely agree with you, and I wouldn't attempt even in a greenhouse. Too cold here.It's not that it wouldn't be easy to do ... it probably would be. The bigger problem is being able to retain the heat in the greenhouse at night during a Michigan winter. I have an LP gas heater in there but it's not robust enough for adequate heating year round. Not to mention the cost of heating it at current LP prices. It's more to stretch a few extra weeks in the fall if it's needed.
I prefer growing indoors and my outdoor runs are nothing more than to control the electric bill. When my lights and my central air are running together (June into Sept/Oct), the electric bill gets pretty expensive.
That's certainly do-able. As you're already aware ... your success will be determined by how well you manage your environment while the temperatures and RH are whipping around up and down like a wild carnival ride. Best of luck with that as it can be a real challenge. By then, I'll be back inside where the environment is much easier to control.I completely agree with you, and I wouldn't attempt even in a greenhouse. Too cold here.
I'm primarily talking about the end of our outdoor season, and me having 8 week flowering plants and running into shitty weather. So I'm going to force them into flower
Internet says days start getting shorter June 21st like you said.
Ok but plants veg all the damn way till August.
So some time middle to end of August
We start flower then not June 20 effin 1st!!!
We have way more than 12 hours of day light.
I dnt understand why even the internet cannot answer my question
WHEN THE HELL DOES IT START?
I CANT WAIT TILL IT STARTS ON ITS OWN.
ILL BE INTO 1ST WEEK OF NOVEMBER AND FROST USUALLY HITS BEFORE THEN!!!
I hope sum1 sees this and has a lil more in pur
I have not built the trellis that I'm planning on using to keep the water off the plants, and hopefully if everything goes as planned I can also use the trellis to "blackout" the lady's early to induce flower, as well as applying "Bloom fuel" just prior to the blackout & all that week.Hey all. I will post pics later. A livestock tank is one of those oval metal troughs to feed and/or water animals. It is 8 ftL x3 ftW x2 ftH. Have three FAST finishers growing in it. Grampa, I still think growing indoors under 20 hours and then throwing a sativa outside in mid June would get it to flower right away, and have 3.5 months to ripen properly. Joe, my plants usually start to flower around mid August. And man, I hope this September is drier than last year. That was brutal.
I expect they will start flowering as soon as I turn off the timer and let mother nature take over. They are small, only 2 ft tall so one more week of supplemental lighting and then we'll let them go. I got a late start otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with the supplemental lighting.Hey all. I will post pics later. A livestock tank is one of those oval metal troughs to feed and/or water animals. It is 8 ftL x3 ftW x2 ftH. Have three FAST finishers growing in it. Grampa, I still think growing indoors under 20 hours and then throwing a sativa outside in mid June would get it to flower right away, and have 3.5 months to ripen properly. Joe, my plants usually start to flower around mid August. And man, I hope this September is drier than last year. That was brutal.
I expect they will start flowering as soon as I turn off the timer and let mother nature take over. They are small, only 2 ft tall so one more week of supplemental lighting and then we'll let them go. I got a late start otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with the supplemental lighting.
Oh, and yes, last summer was brutal. I'm hoping this summer is more like the one we had in 2020.
Have you ever considered using the "supplemental lighting" during the grow?I expect they will start flowering as soon as I turn off the timer and let mother nature take over. They are small, only 2 ft tall so one more week of supplemental lighting and then we'll let them go. I got a late start otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with the supplemental lighting.
Oh, and yes, last summer was brutal. I'm hoping this summer is more like the one we had in 2020.
I'm using six 4' LED shop lights. I haven't considered using supplemental lighting year round because once the summer growing season is over I will be growing indoors again. I might reconsider it at some point. I prefer indoors because I have almost complete control over the environment where outside I don't.Have you ever considered using the "supplemental lighting" during the grow?
Can I ask what the supplemental lighting is?
Grandpa, I am in SW MI and experienced much mold loss last season and thus I began pulling tarps over my plants on 2 July to force flowering via light deprivation.That's certainly do-able. As you're already aware ... your success will be determined by how well you manage your environment while the temperatures and RH are whipping around up and down like a wild carnival ride. Best of luck with that as it can be a real challenge. By then, I'll be back inside where the environment is much easier to control.
There's not a so called "fixed date." The amount of darkness needed to trigger flowering is strain dependent. Most photo period plants will start flowering somewhere between 14.5 hrs and 14 hrs of daylight. Some start sooner like the "fast" strains that have their flower clock altered by ruderalis. Others like true "equatorials" might not start flowering until there's less than 13 hrs of light. There are too many variables to give you a definitive answer.
The days are too long just yet.Grandpa, I am in SW MI and experienced much mold loss last season and thus I began pulling tarps over my plants on 2 July to force flowering via light deprivation.
I have a concern regarding risk of herming if I cease dark cycle after six weeks in mid August. Natural flowering seems to be 1 August and daylight will be under 14 hours and with treelines my plants are out of sunlight in morning and evening.
Do you think this is too risky or not risky?
X2The days are too long just yet.
U won't herby but completely ruin any flower development you mite have.
And spindly sick growth will occur.
Best bet is to increase air movement if possible & ride it out until the daylight is only 12 hrs long.
I knw it was 4 gramps, & sry 4 adding my 2 cents. Just what I would do. As I had the same intentions to do the very same thing g you have. Only giving the plants a certain flower inducing agent mid August & blacking them out in order to finish early.
Unfortunately $$ has become an issue 4 myself. Good luck & hope u figure it out
The days are too long just yet.Grandpa, I am in SW MI and experienced much mold loss last season and thus I began pulling tarps over my plants on 2 July to force flowering via light deprivation.
I have a concern regarding risk of herming if I cease dark cycle after six weeks in mid August. Natural flowering seems to be 1 August and daylight will be under 14 hours and with treelines my plants are out of sunlight in morning and evening.
Do you think this is too risky or not risky?
I did some digging 4 u I hope it helps you!Grandpa, I am in SW MI and experienced much mold loss last season and thus I began pulling tarps over my plants on 2 July to force flowering via light deprivation.
I have a concern regarding risk of herming if I cease dark cycle after six weeks in mid August. Natural flowering seems to be 1 August and daylight will be under 14 hours and with treelines my plants are out of sunlight in morning and evening.
Do you think this is too risky or not risky?
Fortunately for most strains, all you need is to get below 14 hrs outside. Otherwise, us northern growers would never harvest a crop.So it obviously came across backwards but you'll see in the beginning of September in Detroit the days r still 13hrs long. I wouldn't push that & that will change from year to year.
The source is a calendar generator I found when googling "what day does sun shine for only 12hrs in michigan"
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