Strange larvae on leaves with black spots as well

R. Face · May 11, 2010

Hey guys i have a problem i need immediate attn to please. Im 6/7 wks into flowering 40 pre 98 bubbas, and i found one of the outer corver plants to have leaves that look like the pics ill post, i have no idea how or why they are there, but please give me any advice or how devestating this is!! Thank you!

Skunky · May 11, 2010

Do those black spots wipe off?

southstreets · May 11, 2010

looks like shit from the larvae...

jansjukebox · May 11, 2010

the discoleration that you see is due to the larvie biting into the flesh of the plant. I suspect soem kind of moth larvie. They can do alot of damage in a little time. I preper an organic product by General Hydrophonics called Azamax. It is a diverse product and can be used for many common pests i nthe garden, for foliar application or soil drench depending o nthe species you need to control. You can also apply it right up to harvest. Just mix to the recomended application rate which is between 1 tsp and 1 tbl per gallon applied ever 10 days for 3 times. Hope this is any help to you

Skunky · May 11, 2010

^^^^^^^^ Agreed Wat bout the larvae?

R. Face · May 11, 2010

Jansjukebox, thanks so much man, I confided in another buddy and he rec. the same thing, moth larvae, how fucking wierd huh? Never had this before...it has spread to some if not most of my other plants, and is not bad, only affecting maybe 2-3 buds per plant. Mainly being the lower budsites. I know that I cannot vend meds with larvae or its shit in it, so i have 2 options.

I dont spray in flower so Im reduced to flushing it all on day 45 exactly and then waiting the 14 days to flush, pulling at around 60 days....or pull it all unflushed. OR the other option was to just keep pricking the leaves off that have them in it, and ignore it until the full 9wks is up?

Thanks for the reply!

Seamaiden · May 11, 2010

If you're not willing to spray (and I'd be willing to spray Bt, and do up until 2 weeks before harvest with my OD girls) then be prepared to lose some crop.

southstreets said:
looks like shit from the larvae...

Sure is. MAN, that's a hell of an infestation. At this point I'd be concerned for worms in the buds.

Bt spray to start would be my recommendation. Bacillus thuringiensis spp.

The poop can start mold or rot, too, as I recall. I would treat before you have to trash it. Examine all buds carefully, especially the really thick ones.

Rabbi · May 11, 2010

Sprinkle diatomatious earth all over your plants leaves stems and about a 1/4 inch covering the top of your medium in the pot. this stuff is like glass and will cut those little bastards and dehydrate them. shake your plants really hard by the trunk cou[le times a day and should solve the problem. then just wash the plant off when population is on the run.

Boots Sugarleaf · May 11, 2010

spray spinosad, should take care of it

TheCoolestMan · May 11, 2010

Anyone know where those larvae come from? is that due to some conditions? First time i see this and never heard of it...

Boots Sugarleaf · May 11, 2010

TheCoolestMan said:
Anyone know where those larvae come from? is that due to some conditions? First time i see this and never heard of it...

I have only seen it outdoors and it can ruin buds, they like to eat the sap from stems then you see huge colas sitting dry on the plant! it sux

they come from moths and butterflies

Boots Sugarleaf · May 11, 2010

what are your conditions that allow moths in? the little white ones look like wax moth larvae, but their diet is picky from what I read

R. Face · May 11, 2010

Thanks for the help guys. Im at a loss om this one, im broke and cannot afford any sprays nor do i like to use them this late in bloom.

And I thought my indoor environment was pretty solid, not sealed but i def didnt have fuckin moths flying around either...

All of my flowers' psitils are died back already, so insterad of waiting for this shit to get worse, which it just seemed to come out of nowhere. I dont see on any veg plants as i use a combo of SM90 and Azatrol, so i guess ill start pulling all these now unflushed, damn shame considering how much they will swell in these last 2 weeks....:(

jansjukebox · May 11, 2010

part of the problem is the eggs already on the plant that you can't see that haven't hatched yet. If you are not willing to spray, then I say you should think about pulling. eventuallu the larve can take over the plant(S) and everyday they eat on your babies, you are loosing yield anyway. The plant fighting the atack with take away from the budding process. So sorry you have to deal with this problem. Funny(but not funny) to see though cause I've only seen that kind of infestation on outdoor plants.

R. Face · May 11, 2010

Yea the problem must have just begun because i have only seen a few of the larvae...mainly just lower leaf damage.

Im not saying that it is not there, i expect it to get worse, and to be honest have no idea how moth larvae got into that room and yet i avoided PM and mites?? PM I thought was gonna happen for sure with a 1600w room wth 40 bubbas and 1 oscilating fan,and a crappy 5k BTU AC, so i feel lucky actually.

So im pulling them all down today, ive gone thru a few plants and am very fortunate to barley have to cut off anything. I feel if id of waited or neglected it, id be fucked. Now i just have done Bubba kush that didnt get the chance to FULLY swell, so ill loose about 10-15% i think bc of lack of swelling and proper flush, but hey apparently shit happens....:dull

foolsgold · May 11, 2010

personally i'd trash the whole harvest.

R. Face · May 11, 2010

Wow then your name, well the first part, sure live up to your online persona, thats the most ridculous statement ive heard...

Ive harvested 2 of the most "affected" plants and I dont see anything i left out, it wasnt as bad as i portrayed apparently, bc the leaves that i posted were the worst ones, I didnt see a % as many larvae on anything else, and this is what the bud is looking like...

jansjukebox · May 11, 2010

FROSTY FROSTY ANWAY. sHOULD BE A REAL HEAD HIGH. gLAD YOU COULD SALVAGE SOMETHING FROM THEM

Boots Sugarleaf · May 11, 2010

it should be mostly fine, that herb looks good

just watch closely in the bids that are still alive for new eggs hatching, new teeny tiny larvae...they will zap your buds if they are still in there hatching

foolsgold · May 11, 2010

no need to be a dick. i'd say the asshole with fucking larvea on his buds is the fool. have fun smoking worms dick!:middlefinger

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