Struggling with Organics, need input

[botanicalbishop]

It’s most definitely root rot. They way they curling or wind burn possibly? Just remember always be patient and address problems at first sight so you can correct them quickly. I haven’t had this happen but my first time I got all the buds to flower but I was watering too much and mold was forming on the inside to out and they got trashed, keep your head up it’s a passion. It took Thomas Edison 1,000 failed experiments before he got one which was the light bulb. Failures teach you what not to do next time. That’s why always starting growing you shouldn’t be spending too much on your first seeds either, cause this could also be genetics but that’s rare

Ya it definitely can be challenging but rewarding, I'll never stop. Regardless I kind of figured I was going to have issues, I'm in a completely different environment and trying a bunch new things.

Hindsight I should of kept it a little simpler or changed one variable at a time. I've had success with order methods in the past, mainly hydro and a couple of bagged soil grows. I figured Id experiment with creating my own soil and ferts this time, and welp I guess I learned what not to do.

Luckily the seeds weren't expensive and I have plently more. Life will go on regardless. I'm not too worried if they don't turn out, I have plenty of time to give it another shot.

 

[HerbalEdu]

I've been applying IMBs weekly.

how about whatever you applied to control pests? what was it?

yeah some pest control control products can cause abnormal growth if not used accordingly or too often

i have not been able to found what's IMB on the net ...

 

[botanicalbishop]

It does look like it from here



It might be overdrive on something. but from feed? naah
how about whatever you applied to control pests? what was it?

I rotate between Green Cleaner, Neem, and my own concoction that is derived from plants of the mint family (cilantro, lavender, lemon balm, thyme, ect).

I'm really cautious about only using one thing as I'm worried about something developing a resistance. I only bust out the spinosad, azamax, or nukem as a last resort.

My homemade brew has worked great on the raspberries this year. They are usually covered in Japanese beetles and I hate spraying chemicals on something I'm going to consume.

 

[botanicalbishop]

yeah some pest control control products can cause abnormal growth if not used accordingly or too often

i have not been able to found what's IMB on the net ...

Apologies I meant IPM or an
Integrated pest management system/protocol. Mainly just rotating what I'm using and introducing beneficial insects or predators when an out break occurs.

 

[botanicalbishop]

Organic go with just Roots Organic terp teas throughout the whole grow. Get only grow and bloom (green and red bag) and fish shit. First 14 days just water, transplant and give it a teaspoon of grow per plant and keep it at that till late veg and bump it to a tablespoon, when ready to flower flip them lights and do a 1:1 ratio of grow and bloom so now 1 tablespoon grow, 1 tablespoon bloom. Next feeding do a 75/25 mix of bloom/grow cause you’ll need less grow. Use organic calmag for minor deficiencies if you get any for N, and for the rest of flower table spoon per plant of bloom. I run fish sh*t with it which is easier than cO2 and if you are organic like me then you’ll love the product just add to your brew at the last hour. You’ll need a pump and air stones to brew! It just looks like not enough defoliation and maybe some over watering. I water once a week and call it terp Tuesday. Hopes this helps for future grows!

I've heard great things about roots and have considered using them. Maybe next go around.

Yes it's quite the jungle in there at the moment. I've been hesitant to trim much as I didn't want to put any more stress on them right now.

Started lolipoping the bottom a tad last week but am going to wait for the rest to finish stretching. They will definitely be getting another hair cut soon.

 

[Farmermarc]

I've heard great things about roots and have considered using them. Maybe next go around.

Yes it's quite the jungle in there at the moment. I've been hesitant to trim much as I didn't want to put any more stress on them right now.

Started lolipoping the bottom a tad last week but am going to wait for the rest to finish stretching. They will definitely be getting another hair cut soon.

Yes roots organics are worth it! You’ll love the brand and how easy it truly is! Plus staying organic is always the way!

 

[botanicalbishop]

Update, got a cheap usb microscope in the mail today. Looks like I have the dreaded borg or an infestation of some sort. Really disappointed I didn't catch it sooner.

The pictures aren't the greatest quality, apologies everyone. What do you guys think? Mites of some sort?

I'm probably going to shut down stuff for a few months and do a deep clean. Not too thrilled but at least they weren't expensive seeds or cuts.

I threw in a few pics of some the carnage, reverting leafs and all.

 

[Putthataway]

If you really want to identify the bug stick a leaf in a sandwich bag zip it closed and check them out. I would spraying them with neem oil or spinosad to kill whatever they are. There’s the newest go to around here with alcohol. I can’t remember the mix but you got to cover the soil. Good luck! Dead them bugs. Also de has been a savior when you get them deaded.

 

[HerbalEdu]

i m not seeing any bugs on your photos, just some growing trichromes either with or without head ... still virus, genetic chimera, or reaction to ipm to me.