is there any P in it? I assume yes in the SS nutes, the GH i mean? ideally I would avoid any P/ K inputs, where you include any cal mag as a drench, I suspect you might do this anyway. I might foliar feed the CalMag/ Fe, esp if i can access chealtes, so aminos plus Fe for example and. otherwise a humic acid might help you chelate any micros eg the Iron, Calcium, magnesium and prevent these binding with any excess P in the media.What that dwc plant is using right now is literally just 6ml/gallon of soul synthetics grow and infinity. No micro nutes past calcium, magnesium, and iron are listed. I do have some general hydroponics micro, but I don't know if mixing that would mess it up.
you should not need to continually add it, 35g per 1m2 should be enough once a year mate.Alright so today I got gypsum. I watered in 1 tsp mixed in 1 gallon of water and kinda flooded/flushed them to make sure that first tsp works. I will water 1 tsp into them every other watering until they start showing improvement. Hoping to see them start praying and the leaves flatten out.
what pH are you feeding the soil plants, try to up it to 6.5-6.7, see how you get on if you aint already doing thisSpread her out again!View attachment 643303
No deficiencies, drinking like she's in the beerfest! Half gallon in 2 days!
lime is a salt, over time its continued use causes a compaction layer of Cation rich salts, typically a white chalky type of seam appears in fields where lime is used to buffer pH and plant roots dont like it. Liming makes soil systems worse not better, it is a lack of understanding of soil and chemistry alongside a disruption in biology. It is a salt, adding salts will build up and cause the soil systems to collapseDry as a bone, still "overwatered!" Damn lime. Getting gypsum today, one way or another.View attachment 643986
TToday I noticed the stems are thicker, but the plants are not really growing up top. I can almost pitch a couple of these plants in cups in favor of newly rooted clones, but I refuse to put another girl through this torture.
Otoh... d-bag 1 clone 2 is looking good besides this one leaf..View attachment 643987 View attachment 643987 View attachment 643987 probably from her drinking a quarter gallon of water a day and not keeping her res topped off. Might be needing that bottle of amino aide but can't afford it.
may be a mild Mn defDry as a bone, still "overwatered!" Damn lime. Getting gypsum today, one way or another.View attachment 643986
TToday I noticed the stems are thicker, but the plants are not really growing up top. I can almost pitch a couple of these plants in cups in favor of newly rooted clones, but I refuse to put another girl through this torture.
Otoh... d-bag 1 clone 2 is looking good besides this one leaf..View attachment 643987 View attachment 643987 View attachment 643987 probably from her drinking a quarter gallon of water a day and not keeping her res topped off. Might be needing that bottle of amino aide but can't afford it.
The main problem with the soil right now is it is compacted from lime (Mg). So I have to add in the gypsum to get some better tilth and loosen it up. Also I'm sure my Ca:Mg is way out from adding the lime to raise the ph. Really those two length plants are gonna get tossed in the trash in favor of newly rooted clones. They need transplanted but they need transplanted into good soil not this compaction, lime messed up, soil.may be a mild Mn def
yeah to be fair, the dwc one looks a nice tone, any micros you might just add as a top up, so a tiny amount 1ml/L max fed in once where you skip a grow feed, or lighten it and add this after half an hour on its own. Sometimes a foliar of micros is a good way to address any shortfall, this works in veg of course and up to a point in bloom.The main problem with the soil right now is it is compacted from lime (Mg). So I have to add in the gypsum to get some better tilth and loosen it up. Also I'm sure my Ca:Mg is way out from adding the lime to raise the ph. Really those two length plants are gonna get tossed in the trash in favor of newly rooted clones. They need transplanted but they need transplanted into good soil not this compaction, lime messed up, soil.
The GH micro has no P in it. It's 5-0-1. If you think the SS line has the micro's they need I won't add any. I am literally just using the grow and infinity bottles (nothing else) and she is growing just fine. Nice even shade of green all over. Another week or two and she will be ready for the flip. Then the challenge of making room in the tent comes into play. Looking to have a good Christmas and new years.
Nano Breathe helps to regulate the stomata and so prevent water loss via transpiration on cuttings, either spray the mother, or the cuttings, et voila, nice and turgid clones with a better survival rate. Nano particles in breathe can enter the plant using all three water transport systems :-) so we can boost food sources to cuts with no roots, ergo that have a better chance of survival and it takes less work to prep a mother ahead of cutting :-)Just as I suspected, the clones were transpiring their water and focusing on that rather than rooting. By the 1st day of being covered 1 plant had roots. This is day 3, 2 clones have roots and the first one looks like this.View attachment 644063and I am cloning like this except under a 15w 1ft fluorescent.View attachment 644064
180 turns are awesome technique daily....hope u get it figured out broView attachment 643652 I had to turn the plant around 180 to put the bare side under the new little led my f-i-l bought me. It obviously works. The side that was under it is way more bushed out. Can you see the bare spot closers and to the right?
Yeah I pulled her out and was like, "well damn, that little led light did somethin!" Turned her around and put it under the light. It's gonna take a week or so still before the growth catches up. I got all three lamps directed at that half of the plant now.180 turns are awesome technique daily....hope u get it figured out bro
yeah, that is a gunk fest in there bro, so long as the light aint getting down there and O2 rates stay above 6ppms. It may of course hinder the Oxygen uptake plant side and may overtime cause some issues depending on the saturation of cations on, in and around it. Certainly puts paid to the myth that EDTA reduces Biofilm imo so its interesting to me to see this pic mate thanks. Whats also interesting to me, we have found Algae forms (not unlike the brown film around the root structure, which themselves have a mutualistic relationship with a type of sidephore bacteria, and that these mutualists had 10-20 times the capacity to chelate Iron beyond free rangers such as bacillus subtilus. Traditionally this is marine work, but never the less it was interesting to me to see if we might capture some of the marinobacter for water specific operations, eg DWC :-)Yeah I pulled her out and was like, "well damn, that little led light did somethin!" Turned her around and put it under the light. It's gonna take a week or so still before the growth catches up. I got all three lamps directed at that half of the plant now.
So the only thing I'm not liking about soul synthetics is the muck it leaves on my roots, and that muck dries up on the roots in the inch or two from the net pot to the top of the water. I may need to replace the 1 tiny air bubbler I'm using for the larger bubbler manifold I made. View attachment 644189I think that is what this is from..View attachment 644190 View attachment 644191
you got any epsom salts? just foliar them, dont worry about the mold they are too early to worry about a bit of water, just spray at night, make sure they are dry come lights on. Warm the media up if you can, run an air line in to the soil to help. Keep the pump up tho so it aint scooping CO2 off the floorView attachment 644362 View attachment 644363 not looking too shitty in flower, for looking like crap in veg.View attachment 644364
The plants in the tent were tip dressed with 1-2 tsp of aurora uprising bloom at the day of flip. I figured by the time it is fully watered in they should be flowering and the plant above liked it. So we will see around beginning of december how things are going. I'm heading down to water in 1 tsp gypsum/gallon of tap today. Might slightly overwatered 1 or two of them but I want it all done at the same time.
The ph is close to 7, or 7 from the lime, I'd rather have it at 7 then 5, at least in flower. I'm using gypsum to loosen up the soil. I will top dress with the uprising bloom again halfway through or about a week after stretch. I don't have all that other stuff.added, your pH is likely high too, if its staying wet this is a sure sign. Since you are adding stuff, you might want to keep a tsp of Sulfur Flowers in pocket to help take the number down so you have time to harvest this plant buddy. The gypsum will take the pH down a bit, may be an iron sulfate too over epsom, i wouldnt normally recommend all this, but its too late to fix this otherwise imo and you already got synths in the system.
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