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CobbCreekBob · Dec 25, 2013

if you know or know of Greywolf, he makes the best HAO ive ever had and I believe it works on more serious pain, but compared to glyc tinc and alc tinc, the HAO I got from them I have to agree with you His missus is also a great gal and part of the process also. I would like to know if you notice any diff in oil made with flowers or oil made with whole plant, there is a camp of thought, it should be the whole plant, I suspect the flowers are for processing BHO, dry ice hash, etc. but my main wonder is if it actually shrinks or eliminates the tumor, or as you stated, helps much with the symptoms and side effects of chemo. Either way they have to feel a bit better and that's at least the second most important thing behinds curing, IMO.

Dynamite said:
hey Bob .. using Holy Anointing Oil - Topical , it takes the pain away within minutes from my father inlaws cancer tumors , there is nothing on the market that helps in the slightest ,nothing the Doc's can prescribe ,and no medicine we've found in the state of Oregon over the counter, except the HAO-T recipe I received from the folks at skunkpharmresearch .. so far as "cure" , we'll Ive just acquired 2 strains high in cbd , but thats 3 months out before I have any oil to give him , he has been taking a gram a day cannabis oil made from multiple strains, but it hasn't cured the cancer,sure helps with the ailments from chemo when he was going through that , he's been thru 2 rounds of chemo ,but was sent home with 6months to live (4months ago) after the 2nd round failed to help.. without the cannabis oil he lost 25lbs in 5days , and he didnt have the weight to lose .. keeping him alive it is , curing his cancer , not yet .. but I feel some cbd rich oil will help this battle

Im on the hunt for cbd oil if anyone knows a source that has a steady supply that you don't hafta be a millionaire to acquire ..

Kendo · Dec 25, 2013

Just started some dalat X NL5 haze seeds. Gonna run em in a continuous clone mode for 4-5 months and then do an incremental drop from 18 to 12 hours over 4 weeks in a 4 X 4 room before they head into the flower room.
Gonna do a vertical screen w/ 2" x 4" livestock wire and run em through that back and forth for 3 months of flower.
Will do a grow show thread.

Kendo · Dec 25, 2013

Seamaiden said:
Fuck cancer!

Strong Sativas are what I use to help control neuropathy and pain associated with herniated discs, calcification in the lower spine and, now, lovely knee problems. LOVE the knee problems!

I prefer good crosses for my pain. Have great success with haze/indica crosses that exhibit the sativa dom traits.

Kendo · Dec 25, 2013

CobbCreekBob said:
if you know or know of Greywolf, he makes the best HAO ive ever had and I believe it works on more serious pain, but compared to glyc tinc and alc tinc, the HAO I got from them I have to agree with you His missus is also a great gal and part of the process also. I would like to know if you notice any diff in oil made with flowers or oil made with whole plant, there is a camp of thought, it should be the whole plant, I suspect the flowers are for processing BHO, dry ice hash, etc. but my main wonder is if it actually shrinks or eliminates the tumor, or as you stated, helps much with the symptoms and side effects of chemo. Either way they have to feel a bit better and that's at least the second most important thing behinds curing, IMO.

Grey has some really good recipes fersures.
I was told decades ago by the original bad Grandpa," Abuelito Garcia" that a steep tea made from the roots with a few inches of the main stem was a potent cure-all. He always got my root boughs.
I have made and worked with lots of different oils. IMHO the sky is the limi
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jaredman · Dec 25, 2013

cbd is not the end all cure for anything i think. It is just useful for a medicine when someone does not want the "side effects" of being high on thc. for pain the thc is what takes your mind off the pain in the same way oppiates work. I would be interested in a strain that has high cbd and high thc like 10 percent of each.

Kendo · Dec 25, 2013

jaredman said:
cbd is not the end all cure for anything i think. It is just useful for a medicine when someone does not want the "side effects" of being high on thc. for pain the thc is what takes your mind off the pain in the same way oppiates work. I would be interested in a strain that has high cbd and high thc like 10 percent of each.

There are so many different ways to utilize cannabis. The absolute best way to get the most beneficial effect from cannabis is PURE RAW Juiced. That coupled with whatever other method works best for the individuals specific needs be they pain management or whatever.

CobbCreekBob · Dec 25, 2013

if people don't want the side effects of getting high, why don't they smoke cigarettes, or ecigs, or flavored cigs. I just don't buy that they want the mmj benefits without getting high. There are many strains out there theyry for a 1 to 1 ratio, some get it, many don't. I've smoked nordle, harlequin, cannatonic, and some others and my question has always been this, if the thc is not really what you are after per se, why not just grow hemp and make teas or butters or lotions, etc. Hemp is very close in composition to this new CBD/CBN craze, can you say ruderaliz, remember when autoflower was gonna change the canna world, LMFAO, Didn't quite turn out, actually pissed on some gene pools, be the same result from these strains they are marketing for new sales, with high CBD/CBN. As a processed oil, it may make a difference, but as a smoke, it don't. Its like smoking bad brick weed, headache, half a buzz, and the pain doesn't go away. I see no use for any of that. JMHO. Just another seed marketing attempt at more bean sales, IMO

Kendo · Dec 25, 2013

CobbCreekBob said:
if people don't want the side effects of getting high, why don't they smoke cigarettes, or ecigs, or flavored cigs. I just don't buy that they want the mmj benefits without getting high.

I know scores of people who use only non- narcotic formula canabinoids. Many of the people I used to provide raw leaf to were MS sufferers who found the Raw juice to be better at prolonged relief as opposed to the immediate one achieved by ,"Getting High"
I have turned a ton of people onto raw juiced cannabis for health.

CobbCreekBob · Dec 25, 2013

again, everyone is different, every system is different and every pain level is different. You found another way of getting it into their system besides smoking. Just another method of applications. Most smoke. There is also a camp of thought out there that on the medible, oil and juice, that your stomach acids break down much of what helps you, but not all so you get some relief, but not as much as you could have if it hadn;'t been broke down in digestion. You can preach to the choir all you want, and slam the getting high moniker, but that's what most pain patients want. No offense, but all those scores of people you helped, did you keep a journal for proof, and MS is not Crohns, it is not Chronic pain, so you can't apply it aross the board. Sorry. I know it makes you and them feel better but did it cure the MS? Because many others can just vape or smoke and get the same pain relief, without a cure, just with a different application. I don't think one is better than the others, yea, may save your lungs for a bit, just a diff way of getting it in your system to the ailing spots. IMHO

jaredman · Dec 26, 2013

SO, bob is the point of this thread to ascertain the proof of mmj curing pain? Or are there many different ailments that mmj can help? And if so what is wrong with not wanting to be high? Children are a prime example. Also anyone who needs to be 100% alert at work or other things, I personally like to be high so there is no problem with "side effects" but if you are asking these questions for legitimate medical applications there are many different ailments that require different treatments and different cbds/thcs. I think the only proof needed is personal testimony to what works for someone or does not. That is the only thing that matters in the end is if a person is satisfied with the results of their treatment or not. Maybe try looking into testimonials of people either satisfied or unsatisfied with their experience treating something with mmj.

Seamaiden · Dec 26, 2013

Kendo said:
I know scores of people who use only non- narcotic formula canabinoids. Many of the people I used to provide raw leaf to were MS sufferers who found the Raw juice to be better at prolonged relief as opposed to the immediate one achieved by ,"Getting High"
I have turned a ton of people onto raw juiced cannabis for health.

I've been reading a *lot* about juicing, and you're right, it, along with hemp seeds, could be the new super-food. Too bad it tastes so horrid to me.

Bob, I know a guy on facebook who's got some pretty bad GI problems. He uses oil, eaten, and he's laid out in his own way how if you've got GI problems eating is the best way to go because you're getting the effective stuff right where you need it (as opposed to smoking).

Kendo · Dec 26, 2013

CobbCreekBob said:
again, everyone is different, every system is different and every pain level is different. You found another way of getting it into their system besides smoking. Just another method of applications. Most smoke. There is also a camp of thought out there that on the medible, oil and juice, that your stomach acids break down much of what helps you, but not all so you get some relief, but not as much as you could have if it hadn;'t been broke down in digestion. You can preach to the choir all you want, and slam the getting high moniker, but that's what most pain patients want. No offense, but all those scores of people you helped, did you keep a journal for proof, and MS is not Crohns, it is not Chronic pain, so you can't apply it aross the board. Sorry. I know it makes you and them feel better but did it cure the MS? Because many others can just vape or smoke and get the same pain relief, without a cure, just with a different application. I don't think one is better than the others, yea, may save your lungs for a bit, just a diff way of getting it in your system to the ailing spots. IMHO

I would love to play follow the pretzel argument Bob but C'mon man!

CobbCreekBob · Dec 26, 2013

see, its all heresay, you know it most other people know it and it does help with symptoms and such, but is no cure. I figued you'd delect and not answer the question, no names of patients, no names of doctors, but RSO or sale, lmao, keep on keepin on what you do, and we'll all wait for the big breakthough. Did you know in Cali a yr ago, they were sellin RSO for 150 a syringe full? Its all about the compassion and cure, eh m8? I'd love to hear more of your hearsay stories,. but I like to deal in facts. Hollar when you get reality info, not theoretic or antecdotal. Keep on rockin

Kendo · Dec 26, 2013

Bob, tiring of pretzel logic and spiraling rhetoric is not a deflection.
You have been presented with a months worth of cannabis research to peruse by the three Dr's I posted that documents cannabis curing tumors in lab animals.
Documented research into stopping tumors from growing in the first place by regulating cell suicide in lab ani....Blah, blah, blah,blah!
You would have read it if you cared to be truly edified.
Carry on chief!

Seamaiden · Dec 27, 2013

http://tokesignals.com/german-study-marijuana-based-medications-relieve-pain/

CobbCreekBob · Dec 27, 2013

Kendo came here just to troll me, as Im skeptical of the cures as in Oregon, there has not been any. There has been stories of people feeling better while taking chemo and such, and guess what, they still died. IM glad they got to feel better before passing on, but the shit didn't cure them. I wished people would quit selling false hope, because its what they believe, and until the medical profession acknowledges it and other people list dr names and actual incidents of actual curs or improvement with the disease, not just helping with symptoms, I'll agree more. Do our doctors recognize all the studies done all over the world, or do they do their own experiments and provide documentation. I realize the AMA is prejudiced, but as I said before, Granny Storm Crow has so many more good info that whats been offered in this thread, yet ,nobody is using her research and I be damned, I can't find any names to verify her results, so to me, it looks great on paper,, like a theory, but until I talke to someone that's been cured, I have to assume, realistically, especially in Oregon with all the extra getting processed illegally, that its more of a sales pitch than actual facts. Not the facts It alleviates symptoms, facts of curs. Carry on Kendo man. Good luck in your endeavors.

Kendo · Dec 27, 2013

LMFAO! Are you serious...... Why would I come here to troll you dude..... I don't even know you man..LOLZERS!!
I came to the Oregon Forum and....there you were in every thread. I engaged you in debate and questioned your logic base, or lack thereof and now....I am trolling. Classic....
I think maybe I will just joke around with you Bob, just kinda avoid any, Touchy issues....

Jared , i don't know you either but man don't let people get you fired up like that.

Donuts for everybody

CobbCreekBob · Dec 27, 2013

it was a joke, lol, everyone knows ya from the other places, I was makin a joke, lol

Kendo · Dec 27, 2013

CobbCreekBob said:
it was a joke, lol, everyone knows ya from the other places, I was makin a joke, lol

DAMN Bob! ya got me :)

Theoneandonly Z · Dec 27, 2013

someone say Granny Storm Crow?

probably not what bob is looking for, as far as scientific analysis - but hey sometimes you just gotta take what you can get. Best Western Plus for the win...

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