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Sep 12, 2009

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I want all the best nutes at the best prices. It could mean that I am using one brand or multiple brands at a time. I am mainly an organic grower.

some companies I'm looking at:

Advanced Nutrients... the rolls royce of nutrients... you can substitute some of their products

House and Garden.. hear they are the best

3D organics... the new kid on the block from Humboldt.. offers a high end line

dutch masters

humboldt nutrients


Lets just talk about Vegging
Products that are a must for me:

-soil
-b vitamins
-base nutrient
-seaweed
-bacteria
-fungi
-silica

I hear organicare soil is the best right now as it is coco based. I am using happy frog ($13) right now cuz its cheap and easy. I might just mix happyfrog with 50-25% pure high quality coco.

for the base i was thinking..

-3D organic's GROW
-Iguana Juice
-dutch master's
-house and garden


seaweed:

i've been using seafuel from that Australian company

lets talk about this

 

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Jalisco Kid

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Sep 13, 2009

#2

It has been beat to death.run some searches.

 

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been

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Sep 13, 2009

#3

I agree.

 

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PRODUCT

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Sep 14, 2009

#4

well this is an up to date type of list

theres no info on 3D organics anywhere. they are new and cutting edge...

Was thinking between Iguana juice and 3D's GROW

 

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grodankushman

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Sep 14, 2009

#5

just did a little side-by-side veg test using my standard nute line up with additives and one using og grow by 3d organics with additives

all i can say is 3d grow=legit. switched all my veg plants to it. and i am NOT an organic grower.... yet....:afroweed:

 

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guanoman

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Sep 16, 2009

#6

try thunder, all micro nutrients for you organics and a great soil additive

 

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Oct 5, 2009

#7

bought all the House and Garden gears and then some.. but now I'm looking at 3d organics.. doh!

I'm using 100% happy frog.. but I want to somehow enhance this dirt as I know it is possible. even better switch because there is something in the soil that gives me really bad allergies. I have to turn down all the fans and filter just to work in the room now.
suggestions on what to cut it with would be nice

all together about 16 different bottles.. I wonder now if that is necessary.. if i got everything else I wanted it would be about 26 bottles
onto the list:

AArde A mix
AArde B mix, then ph
now add everything else

house and garden's
roots
multi zen
bud xl
top booster
Algen extract
shooting powder
didn't get the drip clean.. don't think i need it for soil? idunno

hormex B
SeaFuel (yellow bottle)
home brew compost tea(instore)
ff bloom (earth casts, bat)
veg bat guano

silica
headmaster (!?!?!?!?!?)
Great White (m, bb, fungi)

edits and pics comeing

we're turning a bedroom into a greenhouse.. chopping off the whole top

 

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Rolln J

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Oct 5, 2009

#8

while its nice to have a huge assortment of stuff at your disposal in case of a specific deficiency arises - your making things rough on yourself to try and incorporate so many ferts and additives into one feeding regimen.

you dont need to add silica in dirt thats for sure

 

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Oct 5, 2009

#9

out of the collection of nutes and additives I've gathered the one thing that seems to be true is the best nutes get used and not left with the others to collect dust.

 

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PRODUCT

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Oct 10, 2009

#10

My base:
Aarde A
Aarde B
citic acid pH

My Organics:
compost tea (in house)
Bat guano (veg)
seafuel (yellow bottle) fish and kelp
earth worm castings

my additives:
roots
hormex B
Great white
Hygrozyme

my bloom boosters:
top booster
bud xl
shooting powder
magical
sweetners
enzymes

2ndary bloom boosters:
all yellow bottles
ROOTS
PRE
ULTRA
PHAT
OOZE
FINAL

non organic:
silica

foliars:
liquid light
penetrator

What do you guys think of my nutes? too much? just right? anymore suggestions?

 

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In all honesty I think you're throwing money at it. Some of the best growers around have the simplest feeds, whether organic or not. Less is more, especially when it all costs so much money.

You can produce excellent weed without using 70% of that stuff, and I'm almost certain that with that much stuff in the mix that you'll be overlapping all kinds of components and throwing ratios out of whack. Also it makes diagnosing any problems a major bitch because you've got 30 different elements to consider.

Look at the growers who you like...and then follow their nute regime. I think you'll find there isn't a single farmer who uses as many additives as that....

e.g. Check out Zoolanders grows - he is a master farmer and everyone loves his grows. Then check out his nute regime...and you'll see that it's a decent Canna routine with no bells and whistles, but that he's dialled it into how he thinks is best. He doesn't use a bazillion ingredients either. Also check the other guys, like Ocanabis, Texas Kid, Herbalizor, Growbot, OJD...anyone who produces badass dank.....their nutes aren't anywhere near as insane as your list!! Good luck :)

 

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Oct 14, 2009

#12

dutch master bloom spray and veg mixed with penetrator is good

 

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Mar 22, 2011

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FastForward said:

In all honesty I think you're throwing money at it. Some of the best growers around have the simplest feeds, whether organic or not. Less is more, especially when it all costs so much money.

You can produce excellent weed without using 70% of that stuff, and I'm almost certain that with that much stuff in the mix that you'll be overlapping all kinds of components and throwing ratios out of whack. Also it makes diagnosing any problems a major bitch because you've got 30 different elements to consider.

Look at the growers who you like...and then follow their nute regime. I think you'll find there isn't a single farmer who uses as many additives as that....

e.g. Check out Zoolanders grows - he is a master farmer and everyone loves his grows. Then check out his nute regime...and you'll see that it's a decent Canna routine with no bells and whistles, but that he's dialled it into how he thinks is best. He doesn't use a bazillion ingredients either. Also check the other guys, like Ocanabis, Texas Kid, Herbalizor, Growbot, OJD...anyone who produces badass dank.....their nutes aren't anywhere near as insane as your list!! Good luck :)

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Well fucking said! Less is more. Remember we are trying to grow the best of the best meds at the cheapest cost!

 

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#14

Beat that dead horse! Lol