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Day 35
The first run with this Zamaldelica pheno finished in around 9 weeks. I'm always amazed at the high leaf to calyx ratio with this clone and it just sneaks into flowering compared to the other strains that proudly display their pistils so quickly. The last time I had some pH and nutrient issues so I wasn't able to witness the oiliness or the strong scent.
The Bangi Congo was a bit finicky up to this point with nitrogen but all of them minus one pheno are incredibly resilient with a lot of uniformity in bouquet and growth. I was incredibly excited for this particular strain from the onset though based on everything and I really love the long pistils, reminds me of the Malawi x Panama. Hard to forget my first love lol
I'm guessing I was a bit high when I chose the Orient Express x Nepal Jam as I fail to remember why I chose it. I was able to get the pheno that began flowering at 18/6 to throw side branches after topping her, the clone in flower right now has short internodes and looks to be a dense lady. I like all the phenos as far as growth but the early flower and the large one pictured have my attention and their mothers are thriving.
The first run with this Zamaldelica pheno finished in around 9 weeks. I'm always amazed at the high leaf to calyx ratio with this clone and it just sneaks into flowering compared to the other strains that proudly display their pistils so quickly. The last time I had some pH and nutrient issues so I wasn't able to witness the oiliness or the strong scent.
The Bangi Congo was a bit finicky up to this point with nitrogen but all of them minus one pheno are incredibly resilient with a lot of uniformity in bouquet and growth. I was incredibly excited for this particular strain from the onset though based on everything and I really love the long pistils, reminds me of the Malawi x Panama. Hard to forget my first love lol
I'm guessing I was a bit high when I chose the Orient Express x Nepal Jam as I fail to remember why I chose it. I was able to get the pheno that began flowering at 18/6 to throw side branches after topping her, the clone in flower right now has short internodes and looks to be a dense lady. I like all the phenos as far as growth but the early flower and the large one pictured have my attention and their mothers are thriving.
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Beautiful! And exotic :-)
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Gosh, those are pretty plants.
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Beautiful! And exotic :-)
Gosh, those are pretty plants.
You guys are making my sativas blush lol. Thanks!
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Day 39 - Flower
Some trichomes shots and a few pictures. Density is highest on Zamaldelica x Kali China but the pistil hairs on the Bangi Congo x Panama are very long.
Colas are quite long in general on the Bangi Congo x Panama. I'm guessing these all will go near 60 days but I may run the Zamaldelica a bit longer to 70.
Larger Zamaldelica clone and a few of the Orient Express started getting deficient, bumped the EC up for the moment with extra Fish hydrolysate and Potassium. Mega Crop went hygroscopic on me so I had to make small concentrated batches that were a pain. I think Jack's may be my best bet until I start formulating my own nutrients. Really liked Prescription Blend but I prefer dry powders.
Trying to do better about identifying strains in the pics but switching from Lightroom then to a text app takes time.
Some trichomes shots and a few pictures. Density is highest on Zamaldelica x Kali China but the pistil hairs on the Bangi Congo x Panama are very long.
Colas are quite long in general on the Bangi Congo x Panama. I'm guessing these all will go near 60 days but I may run the Zamaldelica a bit longer to 70.
Larger Zamaldelica clone and a few of the Orient Express started getting deficient, bumped the EC up for the moment with extra Fish hydrolysate and Potassium. Mega Crop went hygroscopic on me so I had to make small concentrated batches that were a pain. I think Jack's may be my best bet until I start formulating my own nutrients. Really liked Prescription Blend but I prefer dry powders.
Trying to do better about identifying strains in the pics but switching from Lightroom then to a text app takes time.
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Fantastic.
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Day 43 - Flower
Buds are fattening a bit but the Bangi Congo x Panama #2 pheno is very poor, 4 clones all failing to thrive compared to the other phenos.
Zamaldelica x Kali China is fattening up and doing everything it did the first time around, just better.
Orient Express x Nepal Jam has been solid to getting so far with every pheno doing very well. #3 and #2 seen to be the best with nice bud structures.
Cleaned the reservoir - had to use vinegar for a few weeks - and made a few gallons of pH down with sulphuric acid. Works well for the cost. The way everything is looking around 60-70 days will probably work out great. I do miss the smoke from Zamaldelica but I need something a bit speedier so hopefully the Bangi Congo can do it. No photos just a video today.
Buds are fattening a bit but the Bangi Congo x Panama #2 pheno is very poor, 4 clones all failing to thrive compared to the other phenos.
Zamaldelica x Kali China is fattening up and doing everything it did the first time around, just better.
Orient Express x Nepal Jam has been solid to getting so far with every pheno doing very well. #3 and #2 seen to be the best with nice bud structures.
Cleaned the reservoir - had to use vinegar for a few weeks - and made a few gallons of pH down with sulphuric acid. Works well for the cost. The way everything is looking around 60-70 days will probably work out great. I do miss the smoke from Zamaldelica but I need something a bit speedier so hopefully the Bangi Congo can do it. No photos just a video today.
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Day 45
Everything is looking really good.
Zamaldelica x Kali China is growing well compared to last time with dense trichomes. Large fan leaves of the Kali China but I'm not sure of the bouquet. Buds are filling out and getting think. I always love the development of the lower buds that did not lack last time.
Bangi Congo x Panama in very Panama dominate with foxtails and really long pistils. Beautiful thin leaves. I may just find a keeper.
Orient Express x Nepal Jam is fragrant, very sweet and sticky. Good amount of trichomes and these seem to lean towards sativa much more. Height is very manageable.
Everything is looking really good.
Zamaldelica x Kali China is growing well compared to last time with dense trichomes. Large fan leaves of the Kali China but I'm not sure of the bouquet. Buds are filling out and getting think. I always love the development of the lower buds that did not lack last time.
Bangi Congo x Panama in very Panama dominate with foxtails and really long pistils. Beautiful thin leaves. I may just find a keeper.
Orient Express x Nepal Jam is fragrant, very sweet and sticky. Good amount of trichomes and these seem to lean towards sativa much more. Height is very manageable.
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Wow!
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Day 52
The fade is coming on strong so I'm guessing another week or two. The Zamaldelica leaves are large going slowly but steady.
Starting to spread out the flood cycles. They have slowed down drinking and the EC has been lowered back to a 1.0. Added molasses for the final few floods.
Tried shooting images in RAW and editing but they feel washed out.
Sampled all of them this past week but only the Zamaldelica had a really pronounced effect but it needs a two month cure. The Bangi Congo has familiar Panama aromas. Smells are getting stronger in general though I hope to see more swelling.
The fade is coming on strong so I'm guessing another week or two. The Zamaldelica leaves are large going slowly but steady.
Starting to spread out the flood cycles. They have slowed down drinking and the EC has been lowered back to a 1.0. Added molasses for the final few floods.
Tried shooting images in RAW and editing but they feel washed out.
Sampled all of them this past week but only the Zamaldelica had a really pronounced effect but it needs a two month cure. The Bangi Congo has familiar Panama aromas. Smells are getting stronger in general though I hope to see more swelling.
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Day 55
I'm thinking a week, maybe two, but it's almost done for the Orient Express x Nepal Jam and Bangi Congo x Panama. Leaves are all fading and the aromas are getting more diverse. Colas really fattened and the OExNP is very sticky.
Not all of the Zamaldelica x Kali China are fading at the same rate so lessons learned on cloning. Definitely going for larger cuts to get the most I can from these. Breeder informed me the the ZxK seems all Kali China with no Zamaldelica. Smells like rotten fruit and coffee
Bangi Congo x Panama really surprised me, especially pheno #2 that has bud down the stem. I think there were 6 clones of that pheno, four did not do well but the other two turned out very well. Some great incense and musk smells.
I'm thinking a week, maybe two, but it's almost done for the Orient Express x Nepal Jam and Bangi Congo x Panama. Leaves are all fading and the aromas are getting more diverse. Colas really fattened and the OExNP is very sticky.
Not all of the Zamaldelica x Kali China are fading at the same rate so lessons learned on cloning. Definitely going for larger cuts to get the most I can from these. Breeder informed me the the ZxK seems all Kali China with no Zamaldelica. Smells like rotten fruit and coffee
Bangi Congo x Panama really surprised me, especially pheno #2 that has bud down the stem. I think there were 6 clones of that pheno, four did not do well but the other two turned out very well. Some great incense and musk smells.
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Day 59
Ended up with plenty of feedback from dubi at Ace Seeds and the possibility of two more mothers. So this is the end and I'll add weight later.
I'll start with the Bangi Congo x Panama.
Very beautiful and easy plant to grow for the most part with long colas, pistils, and a fade of black from it's Bangi Congo lineage. Out of four phenos, #4 proved to be an oddball with small colas and just smaller overall lacking vigor. It was the lowest yielding, visually, of all the plants.
#2 may be a keeper despite seeding itself on one clone and needing more nitrogen than any of the other phenos. Aromas were pretty uniform and sticky buds. Foxtailing was strong in the last two weeks with some 2 inch ones here and there. Buds are moderately dense but not something excessive and leaves were thin. The #2 pheno was observed with calyx formation down to the bottom of the stalk.
Overall buds were fairly uniform with hints of black and resinous. After the cure I won't be surprised if #2 isn't the new mother.
Orient Express x Nepal Jam
This was a very uniform cultivar with the dark orange pistils with the real difference being in the bouquet. Ranging from sweet to earthy with moderate branching and a fast finish.
Overall this cultivar gave me no issues the entire time and #2 is likely to be my mother is based off growth and aroma alone. It was very easy to grow and with a good cure may earn a place in my garden for the future.
Zamaldelica x Kali China
This went better than the last grow. Very strong coffee and rotten fruit.
Ended up with plenty of feedback from dubi at Ace Seeds and the possibility of two more mothers. So this is the end and I'll add weight later.
I'll start with the Bangi Congo x Panama.
Very beautiful and easy plant to grow for the most part with long colas, pistils, and a fade of black from it's Bangi Congo lineage. Out of four phenos, #4 proved to be an oddball with small colas and just smaller overall lacking vigor. It was the lowest yielding, visually, of all the plants.
#2 may be a keeper despite seeding itself on one clone and needing more nitrogen than any of the other phenos. Aromas were pretty uniform and sticky buds. Foxtailing was strong in the last two weeks with some 2 inch ones here and there. Buds are moderately dense but not something excessive and leaves were thin. The #2 pheno was observed with calyx formation down to the bottom of the stalk.
Overall buds were fairly uniform with hints of black and resinous. After the cure I won't be surprised if #2 isn't the new mother.
Orient Express x Nepal Jam
This was a very uniform cultivar with the dark orange pistils with the real difference being in the bouquet. Ranging from sweet to earthy with moderate branching and a fast finish.
Overall this cultivar gave me no issues the entire time and #2 is likely to be my mother is based off growth and aroma alone. It was very easy to grow and with a good cure may earn a place in my garden for the future.
Zamaldelica x Kali China
This went better than the last grow. Very strong coffee and rotten fruit.
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