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As good as it gets,upper echelon thinking,I wanna see how this works over a period of time
Whats wrong with the nl appyThe strains I'm running are mostly by Bodhi.
Prayer Tower (sativa Dom)
Cocoon
Solos stash
NLAppy (not recommended)
AppySuperSkunk
Pinball wizard
Oroblanco
Lemon wookie
I'm also running Gorilla Glue4 x dragons blood hashplant. Fantasy island x big Sur holy bud. Probably forgetting one or two.
I had a smaller bed last 4 years. I just didn't feel like growing in it anymore. I wouldn't have mixed up 40 yards of soil by hand if it was only going to last a couple rounds. The soil only gets better.
RD
If you take a look at it from a natural outdoor perspective much is gained. She brings all those nutrients to the soil surface from deep below the ground. It certainly makes sense that many of our inputs are accumulators as well. We will certainly be talking more about them.Very nice RD. I'm learning. I knew cannabis was a dynamic accumulator but I think you really put it into perspective. Drop them where they stand...nothing gained...nothing lost! Nice thread. Keep it coming.
I'm subbed for sure and will follow along on this excellent thread.The Realization
Mother nature is perfect. Wicked, yet beautiful. Don't fight her or try to bypass her. You will lose. Work with her.
Create an entire living ecosystem. The soil mix is the most integral part. The compost or humus portion is everything. High quality vermicompost really is gold.
From here, the plant is allowed to take what it wants. Instead of being force fed nutrients via chelated bottles. Life is beautiful.
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So, I'll start here...
What would be the minimum size bed I could build to get myself going?My plan would be to dedicate a corner of my current room to a no till bed to get the hang of it , while simultaneously continuing along with the coco program I am currently running.
RD, I see you went with a 150 gallon for years... maybe that is a good starting point for me? I have a fair amount of space, the room is 15' x 16' with 8' ceiling. Lighting is a mix of HPS and CMH.
Thanks for the the reply Rancho!
It occurs to me that I might be de railing your thread... let me know if you want me to start a new one. I'd really like to make the transition over to no till but I have to keep it indoors. I will look into that book.
The room I am currently running is 15 x 16 with an 8' lid.
8 lights total. 4x 600 hps and 4x 315 cmh, staggered.
Pretty good ventilation, negative pressure from intake and exhaust fans, bu no ac or dehuey. I live in a cool dry climate and haven't found them necessary...yet.
As I mentioned, ideally I would like to split the room up a bit and start a bed off to the side of my coco grow and dedicate a couple of lights to it. I have seen some guys using 15 gallon fabric pots, but it sounds like a larger volume of soil really keeps it going. I like the looks of your raised beds too, my arthritic spine doesn't like things on the floor anymore
That sounds like the set up I might end up with in the future, but I currently have a medical grow to maintain as well. For my learning curve I'm hoping to keep most of the area running with my usual coco set up (rocking it ) to keep my people happy, but get a NT bed going off to the side with its own lights. Would a 3 x 6 bed 18 " deep get me going?Hey man no worries at all. I would probably build (4) 4x8' beds 18" high. I would place them all next to each other in the center of the room. Work the beds from the aisles created on the edge of the room. This way those lights overlap. You will be looking at building 12-1400 gallons of soil. Any thoughts on your soil mix?
Just a note for anyone attempting no till or with questions..... feel free to post here.
RD
Most of your fertilizer cost is up front...what else?Why No-till?
I choose to no-till largely from a production and labor point of view. Most of the labor is done during the initial setup. No more mixing soil after every run. Multiple transplants are a thing of the past too. Since the plants veg for 2-4 weeks in their beds...the need for a large veg area is eliminated. The rate of growth in a 500g bed is mind boggling.
Watering can be tricky, but there is a giant sweet spot between too much and too little. No till leaves open the possibility of being able to leave for an entire week.
Most of my "fertilizer" costs are upfront with the initial soil mix. Saavy growers will make their own compost or vermicompost and reduce costs even further. A 50lb sack of alfalfa/kelp for occasional teas could last a small grower a decade for less than $100 bucks.
If this wasn't enough, tilling the soil or mixing it, disturbs and destroys both macro and microlife. By not mixing the soil everything from fungal colonies to worms including all their hard work remain intact.
Here's a pic of the veg room.
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"Fertilizer"Most of your fertilizer cost is up front...what else?
The question i asked him...thats all.. i know how it works"Fertilizer"
Well you use the same soil for years! The older it gets the better it is. No ph, no flush, no run off, no feeding, less water, better herb... the list goes on!
Anything particular you're interested in?
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