Tips & Tricks for a Multi-Strain Grow

Mississip Hip · Apr 4, 2012

Like what?

Mississip Hip · Apr 5, 2012

ttystikk said:
You have any evidence for this assertion, or is it just your gut feeling? Capulator is a resident expert on beneficial microbiology as it pertains to our hobby. He's telling everyone, soil and hydro growers both, to brew their bennies up to increase their numbers and therefore their beneficial effects.

I'm not saying you're full of it, but when you say something that goes against what many others are doing- with positive results- it's kinda on you to step up with some supporting evidence.

What kind of supporting evidence would you like to see?

FWIW...Cap just bought a scope to see what is really going on in his ACT. Without a scope...its guesswork.

Can you show me evidence that your ACT works?....We can all post green pictures...that doesn't prove what kind of bacteria are alive and thriving.

Maybe you should read up a little on scoping tea.

half baked · Apr 5, 2012

im 1 of those folks who love a busy room, last crop i had 38 plant and 36 diff strains, be it phenos or strain, they all still grow differently, the thing i realised was noway could i keep the plants in original place, had to keep moving them so they would all get even light lol thinking on it i got 29plants this round and each 1 of those is diff, gonna be another fun round lol

ttystikk · Apr 6, 2012

Mississip Hip said:
What kind of supporting evidence would you like to see?

FWIW...Cap just bought a scope to see what is really going on in his ACT. Without a scope...its guesswork.

Can you show me evidence that your ACT works?....We can all post green pictures...that doesn't prove what kind of bacteria are alive and thriving.

Maybe you should read up a little on scoping tea.

How did your approach work? When I said earlier that adding carbs to RDWC is an invitation to disaster, I was speaking from personal experience. If you had results that blew your mind, that's good enough for me.

I'm researching a different approach to lighting that if it pans out as I suspect, it may help growers save half or more on their bloom room's power bills. The first lesson I've learned during this process is just how hard it is to drive 'gut feelings' out of the equation and drill down to hard, repeatable results. I have enormous respect for Scientists like Squiggley who strive to do the same in areas of research that are out on the cutting edge of scientific endeavor, because leaving one's ego at the door to new knowlege is a very hard thing to do well or consistently.

ttystikk · Apr 6, 2012

half baked said:
im 1 of those folks who love a busy room, last crop i had 38 plant and 36 diff strains, be it phenos or strain, they all still grow differently, the thing i realised was noway could i keep the plants in original place, had to keep moving them so they would all get even light lol thinking on it i got 29plants this round and each 1 of those is diff, gonna be another fun round lol

Wow- I am all ears about how you manage to pull this off with such satisfying results!

half baked · Apr 6, 2012

easi ttystikk, well alot of work along with a hell of alot of pinching (crimping) its been a long time since i did a full grow of 1 strain so sort of gettin used to the problems that arrises when doin a multistrain grow (not fully there yet tho lol) heres a peek at my tents bro, not 2 plants are the same ;)
i hope i dont fudge it up now lmao
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/my-last-thread-i-mean-it-this-time-lol.46714/
hb

Mississip Hip · Apr 6, 2012

ttystikk said:
How did your approach work? .

I really dont know what you are trying to ask me.

Mississip Hip · Apr 6, 2012

Did you edit?

Ok, makes sense now.

It works great. I dont have any quantatative means to prove it.

I was throwing out something that works for me. As I stated to begin with, I dont have a scope.

Anybody that uses ACT....without a scope....is using their "gut" to judge results. This means eyeballing plant condition and making a personal judgement call.

Most people SEE positive benefits from ACT without ever viewing the actual bennies wiggling around under a scope.

I saw these types of results with this slurry.

My moms are in many different stages and size pots. They dry out at different rates and its hard to keep ACT brewing 365/24/7 .. So when I feel the need to innoculate, I dont have to wait on a ACT to brew. I can apply this soup immediately. It takes a couple of days to see results because it takes that long for everything to wake up and go to work.

All I can say is try it and use the same judging eye for this as you would for an ACT....if you are really interested,

Its simply a matter of convenience for me. Mixing this slurry and applying takes 10 minutes, not a day or two. So it works for me.

I dont feel I lose time because the 24-48 hours that it takes to see results in the plant...is the same 24-48 I would be brewing.

Its not as cost effective, but thats the beauty of Caps bennies. They are cheap enough to play with. And strong enough to do the job. Cap rocks.

Capulator · Apr 6, 2012

the best thing to do is pick strains with similar finishing times and stretch, although you can get away with growing lanky plants and shorties, if you keep them together in groups.

If you are in individual containers, it makes no difference about the finishing times, stretch or what not. You can move them around and hand water, and you can tailor nutes to each strain if needed.

monotony is boring.

Capulator · Apr 6, 2012

ttystikk said:
He didn't, but the point I was making is that a good answer for one style of growing can be disastrous in another.

Even in soil, brewing the mix for awhile will lead to even better results.

You DON'T put free carbs in an RDWC, unless you're cultivating pathogens, lol. The trouble is that in a pure water environment there is no place for bennies to live. I'm looking into some options to create microenvironments where beneficial bacteria could reside and multiply and perhaps then float around the system. In this case it might make sense to add carbs.

The widely accepted method for inoculating bennies into RDWC is to make a mix as you describe, let it brew for a few days to grow into large numbers- and importantly to use up the available carbs- then introduce this brewed tea into the water repeatedly every few days, as it will die soon after it's placed in the water. Capulator is the local guru on this subject, he'd be glad to fill you in on the finer points.

Im far from an expert, but my scope did just arrive. Gonna have to set it up this weekend. I bought a sick one that can take digital pics, so I an post some cool shots of microbial life here at the farm.

Mississip Hip · Apr 6, 2012

hellz yeah.

ttystikk · Apr 7, 2012

Capulator said:
the best thing to do is pick strains with similar finishing times and stretch, although you can get away with growing lanky plants and shorties, if you keep them together in groups.

If you are in individual containers, it makes no difference about the finishing times, stretch or what not. You can move them around and hand water, and you can tailor nutes to each strain if needed.

monotony is boring.

Monotony is boring, but some people find safety and comfort in routine. I am not one of them... or I wouldn't be here!

I built my 'ghetto UC' to meet several specifications. One of the most important was fully portable plants. It's working about as well as I hoped, and I'm able to re-arrange my rooms on a whim.

I have done so many salad grows lately, I'm thinking a monocrop would be a bit of variety for me, lol.

ttystikk · Apr 7, 2012

Capulator said:
Im far from an expert, but my scope did just arrive. Gonna have to set it up this weekend. I bought a sick one that can take digital pics, so I an post some cool shots of microbial life here at the farm.

You're the kind of 'not expert' whose opinion I value more than most 'experts' and I'll tell you why, Cap- you're in there gettin' your hands dirty and figuring out first hand what works and why. I have a lot more respect for that approach than some talking head who got all his data from a textbook.

I can't wait to hear what you have to share once you get your new toy!

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