Toaster79 said:

Add more of those T5s and keep them as close as possible. Turn on your 600s slowly one after another or you'll shock the shit out of your plants

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Sounds good and thanks for the reply, I'll get more of em' t5:s today. In a few days I'll light up the first hps, then efter week 2 or 3 I'll probably put on the second one and so on. If I do as you say, is there any risk that they'll go into flowering to early, or will they just figure out to bloom when I change the light schedule? And I've heard changing the lights frequently which I will be doing if I keep adding hps:s slowly isn't optimal because then she has to adapt to new lighting all the time. But that might not relevant in my case, and it's probably more optimal than chocking the hell of my babies lol.

Welcome back @suomynona and @way2green and wassup everybody hope yall are doing well, just chilling back on my bday puffing tons of ghost og my boy brought back from miami and having a few drinks, nothin crazy. You know ya love this plant when you choose to break your back for her needs all day instead on your bday

Mines about 2 weeks out... congratulations... youre one year closer to having to constantly worry about teabagging the toilet

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Welcome back @suomynona and @way2green and wassup everybody hope yall are doing well, just chilling back on my bday puffing tons of ghost og my boy brought back from miami and having a few drinks, nothin crazy. You know ya love this plant when you choose to break your back for her needs all day instead on your bday

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Happy birthday bro . I'll smoke one for u .lol

SpitXFire said:

Welcome back @suomynona and @way2green and wassup everybody hope yall are doing well, just chilling back on my bday puffing tons of ghost og my boy brought back from miami and having a few drinks, nothin crazy. You know ya love this plant when you choose to break your back for her needs all day instead on your bday

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Happy birthday brother

SpitXFire said:

Welcome back @suomynona and @way2green and wassup everybody hope yall are doing well, just chilling back on my bday puffing tons of ghost og my boy brought back from miami and having a few drinks, nothin crazy. You know ya love this plant when you choose to break your back for her needs all day instead on your bday

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Thanks for the welcome back and happy birthday bro!

Happy Birfday Homey!!!... @SpitXFire

@SpitXFire hope your birthday is not a drag

Cookies forum cut, finishing up and this is by far the best run ive had with her. Nailed her ass this time! She's beefed-up, super dense as always but it's amazing how making sure not to over feed is the key to getting her to preform at a high level, less is more with her. Respect

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@SpitXFire hope your birthday is not a drag View attachment 534397

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Lmao

Power OG said:

Cookies forum cut, finishing up and this is by far the best run ive had with her. Nailed her ass this time! She's beefed-up, super dense as always but it's amazing how making sure not to over feed is the key to getting her to preform at a high level, less is more with her.View attachment 534398 View attachment 534396 View attachment 534395 View attachment 534399Respect

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She's looking perfect brother. Definitely crushed that bitch this time.

Happy birthday spit!

Power OG said:

Cookies forum cut, finishing up and this is by far the best run ive had with her. Nailed her ass this time! She's beefed-up, super dense as always but it's amazing how making sure not to over feed is the key to getting her to preform at a high level, less is more with her.View attachment 534398 View attachment 534396 View attachment 534395 View attachment 534399Respect

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Wow dude, amazing structure and look. POWER OG SMASH!

@Tnelz your right, im just bummed on how messy my current crop is looking. Canopy too wide for the 400w....hence the idea of upgrading. Im crossing my fingers for no mold or pm.... Its a jungle in there!!! I can tell that if i had less tops id have bigger buds, maybe a little more even development.... Man growing bud is fucking weird and fun.

I dosed my ladies with their last NFTG full STR. Before i start the final two week flush. When I added mega morph and aphrodites extrac. to the full str dose i got the slightest burnt tips so i cut dosage to 80%

Trying my best to keep an even regiment but theres too many things changing...new nutes. Supplements.. Etc. I think this next crop im gonna ju. st STOP all of that and keep it even simpler than before.
Yoyoyo spitfire happy bday g. Id smoke you out if i knew you .!

Thanks again for all the help and respect to the TNELZ thread crew.

Peace outsida! Tai mai shoe.

Sorry to dbl post. Yo @Power OG lets see how that cornbreads looking. Im excited about that shit on the daily homie.

@Power OG Nice pics as usual!!! I must say I'm often distracted from the overall bud pic, as I'm always trying to find burnt tips. :D
@SpitXFire happy B-day as well.

@EyeC thank you for your thoughts and I do agree there are too many variables to ever nail a lot of things down to absolutes, when it comes to these plants. One good thing here, with the overall picture I'm getting to; is that I believe I have most of the pieces to the puzzle and know what the puzzle looks like; but there are a few pieces left to fit. So the hypothesis mentioned is a potential "piece" and my hopes were / are to figure those things out. There's enough experience and sheer knowledge floating around on the forum, that I would presume it possible. At least to develop maybe a theory.

@SeaF0ur Thank you as well for your thoughts and info!
With your reference to "the first part" and "root exudate" testing; I'm assuming your talking about the hypothesis, right? I've not looked a ton into exudates, other than to know how / why they alter in order to increase availability of certain groups of elements (cation / anion). I remember jumpincactus had a nice thread on root exudates for signaling and quorum sensing. Guess the only other thing I read was with hormones produced in the roots and their relation to exudates. That definitely seems like an interesting avenue to investigate more!! I'll have to find out if there's a specific exudate relative to nitrogen sufficiency for that to work.
-I suppose thinking another way. Would you consider doing leaf tissue testing as a viable alternative there? Since any transported nitrate that does not have sufficient reductase, gets stored in those leaf tissues as organic nitrogen (dark leaf). Would you think that doing organic nitrogen sampling (of leaf tissues) at a given nitrate level and moving from veg to flower; could also work?

@ ALL of you guys
TBH, I was kinda hoping with the hypothesis that someone might say "oh, no it's because of this". I've not found research specific to it and I don't know if that's been done.

One part that, at least, CAN be stated is that; a plant can utilize less nitrate in flower, in part, because nitrate reductase production (being bound to the calvin cycle) is lowered as a result of shorter photoperiods in flowering.
However, I still feel there are other factors (like possibly sugar diversion) as I would presume the change from this would be seen during stretch. As well it would not seem to explain the variability in the nitrate assimilation capacity of differing strains; transitioning into flower. (few I've tested).

Last again @SeaF0ur With having separate formulas for the different stages; yea, I'm missing the Vegetative and I need to make one specific at some point. Now with the life stages, I guess I looked into that while researching why P is "required" to be higher in bloom (found none outside of grain filling / seed production). I'm looking at things from different "terms" than you brought across, but I'm pretty sure we are talking about the same thing.

Vegetative - I don't have a specific formula here
Pre-Flowering - Since I run cuts or hold seeds to maturity; everything in veg area is in this state (more or less) and gets a specific NPK.
Early Flower - From my reading (and I believe your saying the same thing) this is the period of "inflorescence meristem" activity. The response with short day plants when the photoperiod changes, in which compounds begin to break down the gibberellins (bloom inhibitor). The period lasts until the inibitors are removed. This gets section gets a specific NPK.
Peak Flowering - (Here again I believe your saying the same thing) From reading, this is the period of "Floral meristem" activity and is when floral organs begin to develop. In the research I found, this is what marks the beginning of flower, oddly enough. This section gets a specific NPK.
Late Flowering- Research I found into flowering stages didn't specifially categorize a separate section here; though it was pointed out that certain hormones do behave differently in late flower versus other stages. This section gets a specific NPK.
Flush- I guess many do this stage and I do also, but don't count as a stage per se.

So, I believe, I'm doing all the stages you mention (excluding veg) and that were talking about the same thing; just different terminology.

Sorry to be long or if I rambled. I'm crummy at short posts.

So I've went a little crazy with some bean cracking lately, ended up with 2 females of SSH x A11g f3 and 1 of the Skunk Va x g13/hp from Bodhi. Was hoping for more but still have 3 beans left of each. Got 4 Jabberwocky females, and 1 92 OG x Stardawg female. Was a little upset because I've never gotten so few females, but it's nature and it happens.

So to make up for this I just cracked a full pack(10) of both Mint Chocolate Chip from Exotic and GG4 x Stardawg from GP. Then did 7 Alien Blue Dot and 6 Alien FPOG both from Franchise and my last 6 Legend OG x Snow Lotus from my testers from Bodhi a while back.

Will be cracking 2 more packs this week, haven't decided what yet, but what I do know is this year X-mas will be full of so much dank. Can't wait to have some sexy bitches to contribute guys, keep the dank coming.

gardnguyahoy said:

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but are one of these two fliers non-harmful?

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I'm not sure what you mean (maybe I missed a post) but if you have one flyer, that's all that's needed to produce another colony. Fliers will reproduce a-sexually.

MGRox said:

One part that, at least, CAN be stated is that; a plant can utilize less nitrate in flower, in part, because nitrate reductase production (being bound to the calvin cycle) is lowered as a result of shorter photoperiods in flowering.

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So are you saying the plants susceptibility to N+ changes? Meaning the threshold is lowered because of the flowering cycle? Thus rendering it easier to burn, perhaps with the same amount of N it had before?

In experiments, (it's amazing I don't ruin more plants) it seems like keeping the N consistent through the run just keeps everything almost bright green. But other than that, I don't notice a lot of difference growth wise. I've not consumed those meds yet to know how it affects taste, burn, smell, etc.

Big ups all, thanks for the love, damn its cozy in here, you have one of the better threads on the canna forums for sure @Tnelz, thanks for welcoming all of us ruffians, hooligans, and perverted deviants in.

@SeaF0ur Idk if I should take it as a compliment of having big balls, but I fear that day has already come and I'm not a day over 30. I think I'm fucked here lol,

@NaturalTherapy She looks like she gives interesting mustache rides lol... Nah wasn't a drag though, did what I love to do everyday, surf a bit(not really my preferred hobby, but its fun), work with the plants all day, and smoke hella weed. So all in all, pretty good day.

Once again much love everyone, and thanks for all the well wishes.

SourDank said:

She's looking perfect brother. Definitely crushed that bitch this time.

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Agreed...tis' the dopest. :hungry: