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chillywilly · Sep 8, 2015

Dannyboy...Subcool stuff...and experiment stuff ...student of The Secret life of Plants....Taco shell leaf...
Peace cw

Lazerus00 · Sep 8, 2015

gardnguyahoy said:
Wow dude, your area looks fucking beautiful brotha!

Got some nice plants goin on there.sounds like you got a lot of love for your ladies. IME if you love em, theyll love you back. Keep up the good work dude. Respect

Thank you brother! It is a beautiful property!! And I deff have a love affair with cannabis!

Ned Kelly · Sep 8, 2015

starting to really hate the aussie family law system . Been on a avo for 3 yrs as the ex gets a new one every 12 mths the hand them out like candy here . As long as your female its automatic apparently all males are just violent deranged animals . So she put me up on a breach 4mths ago witch was laughable even the police didnt pursue it . she was physically blocking me from picking up one of my boys . so i ducked around her bringing me wtih in 5 mtrs of here , grab my son and left . problem is last time i got breached for stopping to give my son a cuddle but was within 200 mtrs of her home . so received a 12 mth suspended . likely outcome is the bald headed queer magistrate here just always takes the females side . see's himself as some knight looking after damsels in distress . After 4 mths the police handed me a summond last week to appear on the 10 th witch my legal guys thought would get adjourned as there wasnt sufficient time to prepare a defense . Yep well old baldy has a different idea . so off to court tommorrow with no prepared def. And as any breach is an auto 12 mths . its very likely ill be doing 12 mths at here majestys prison . what a load of shit . So if im not around thats were ill be . fuck . All my life could easily be turned up side down . plants will be well dry . business will have to close down . what a cluster fuck .my head is ruined .

way2green · Sep 8, 2015

Power OG said:
Get a sample of "nectar for the gods" best organic bottled nutrients imo, and its a very generous sample.

If that is true then pm me @Power OG ........I am in the middle of changing.....U and @Tnelz are the nutrient whores

chillywilly · Sep 8, 2015

Aw man....dang...

Lazerus00 · Sep 8, 2015

Ned Kelly said:
starting to really hate the aussie family law system . Been on a avo for 3 yrs as the ex gets a new one every 12 mths the hand them out like candy here . As long as your female its automatic apparently all males are just violent deranged animals . So she put me up on a breach 4mths ago witch was laughable even the police didnt pursue it . she was physically blocking me from picking up one of my boys . so i ducked around her bringing me wtih in 5 mtrs of here , grab my son and left . problem is last time i got breached for stopping to give my son a cuddle but was within 200 mtrs of her home . so received a 12 mth suspended . likely outcome is the bald headed queer magistrate here just always takes the females side . see's himself as some knight looking after damsels in distress . After 4 mths the police handed me a summond last week to appear on the 10 th witch my legal guys thought would get adjourned as there wasnt sufficient time to prepare a defense . Yep well old baldy has a different idea . so off to court tommorrow with no prepared def. And as any breach is an auto 12 mths . its very likely ill be doing 12 mths at here majestys prison . what a load of shit . So if im not around thats were ill be . fuck . All my life could easily be turned up side down . plants will be well dry . business will have to close down . what a cluster fuck .my head is ruined .

That is terrible brother! I am so sorry to hear about all that shit your having to go thru!! I wish there was something I or any of us could do for you! Know that ill send out a prayer for you not to have to serve a year!! Best of luck brother!!

Dabbin dman · Sep 9, 2015

gardnguyahoy said:
Heres an update of my first crop gentlemen. Day 51. Getting close to harvest time and im getting pretty excited.

Look at them beasts☺looks nice job man . Loving my girls and hope my next couple look that nice . Big difference in a week man

Lazerus00 · Sep 9, 2015

gardnguyahoy said:
Heres an update of my first crop gentlemen. Day 51. Getting close to harvest time and im getting pretty excited.

Looking great bro!!! They look nice and full with a layer of frost!! Awesome job!!

gardnguyahoy · Sep 9, 2015

Ned Kelly said:
starting to really hate the aussie family law system . Been on a avo for 3 yrs as the ex gets a new one every 12 mths the hand them out like candy here . As long as your female its automatic apparently all males are just violent deranged animals . So she put me up on a breach 4mths ago witch was laughable even the police didnt pursue it . she was physically blocking me from picking up one of my boys . so i ducked around her bringing me wtih in 5 mtrs of here , grab my son and left . problem is last time i got breached for stopping to give my son a cuddle but was within 200 mtrs of her home . so received a 12 mth suspended . likely outcome is the bald headed queer magistrate here just always takes the females side . see's himself as some knight looking after damsels in distress . After 4 mths the police handed me a summond last week to appear on the 10 th witch my legal guys thought would get adjourned as there wasnt sufficient time to prepare a defense . Yep well old baldy has a different idea . so off to court tommorrow with no prepared def. And as any breach is an auto 12 mths . its very likely ill be doing 12 mths at here majestys prison . what a load of shit . So if im not around thats were ill be . fuck . All my life could easily be turned up side down . plants will be well dry . business will have to close down . what a cluster fuck .my head is ruined .

Fuckin a brotha...this bums me out to read. How unfair. I couldnt bring myself to click like on that post (which im sure whoever did just meant it in a supportive way) i cant believe your being put in that position. There has to be something you can do man... If not then i wish you more than luck positivty hope and prayer brotha. I hope you and mom can hash it out one day so you can be with your kids without the static...that situation really fuckin sucks dude,. And it rubs me the wrong way when parents put themsleves before the kids. I know cause my dad was an awful piece of shit that had no business taking care of a 6 year old. Im lucky my mom took me away from him. If she didnt id probably be a drug addict or a scumbag of some sort or other. You need to be with your kids, without that bs up your ass constantly. ...its tough to hear that injustice fills your life up. Just dont let it make you do something you dont want to do. Keep being a good person, do whats right. In the end it might be the only thing that salvages and saves this situation. Im sorry to hear all that man. If you need a friendly ear dont hesitate to shoot me a pm brotha. Ive been through a lot early in my life and i hate to see people suffer. Always down to lend an ear to someone whos having a rough go of things. Stay up player. Your kids are whats important man. A crop can always be grown. But you only get one shot to raise your kids. The world is full of injustice. Do your part to make it better as best you can g. Thats all we really got sometimes. Respect to your children and fam, and nothing but well wishes and hopeful, positive vibes from me dude.straight up

Tnelz · Sep 9, 2015

As many of u know I've used abo

way2green said:
If that is true then pm me @Power OG ........I am in the middle of changing.....U and @Tnelz are the nutrient whores

Been telling u that forever. Although general organics is right there. U can now find the go box online for thirty bucks.

Dabbin dman · Sep 9, 2015

That may feel good if it were rigged up to be heated for the daily visit with the man and the dawglol

SeaF0ur · Sep 9, 2015

FYI, "general organics" is a brand name and it is not truly 100% organic.
They just use the word organic instead of hydroponic so soil people will buy general hydroponics products.

While they may say that its a labeling issue or that they dont want to give away their secret formula, a big company like that wouldnt hide the fact that it's organic if it truly was... it's mostly organic I'm sure, but I'm also sure they took shortcuts to save money on things that compromised their ability to get a true organic listing...

...of course that only matters if you care about that sort of thing... in my eyes, its a bit dishonest... like selling liquefied kelp at a 3000% markup...

chillywilly · Sep 9, 2015

I like a little DIY and some Peru seabird guano, I got a few organic/veganics stuff too. I do like the Algoflash as it is pure minerals salts, check mandala seeds and the breeder gives s small list of some nutes he used
...very informative and humic/fulvic acids... I've seen nobody use Wachters' sea products, they sh**T the TRUE bomb. I got some Peru seabird guano tea 8 years old and makes flowers swell, ....basic plant knowledge and application... I got my master gardener certification from the head agronomist at USDA here in DC, the USDA headquarters is on Beltsville MD and the hand book, I also studied the book The Secret life of Plants written by a guy who used to work for the CIA...Plants need basic minerals and biology and water...most of that other stuff is what I call for the unknowing... I think that my last nute additive is deff golden tree...I always like to do on the highest level using the basic principles... I've spent lots of $ on 'packages' that don't truly deliver, this my most recent (which is my last) formulation after nearly 20 years... U've seen my recent post for the Dannyboy, but haven't flipped yet, but considering orgo or bio, both will produce, but which will bring to the table as 'medical grade' compared to 'medicinal'...
Algoflash is bomb...
Peace cw

Tnelz · Sep 9, 2015

SeaF0ur said:
FYI, "general organics" is a brand name and it is not truly 100% organic.
They just use the word organic instead of hydroponic so soil people will buy general hydroponics products.

While they may say that its a labeling issue or that they dont want to give away their secret formula, a big company like that wouldnt hide the fact that it's organic if it truly was... it's mostly organic I'm sure, but I'm also sure they took shortcuts to save money on things that compromised their ability to get a true organic listing...

...of course that only matters if you care about that sort of thing... in my eyes, its a bit dishonest... like selling liquefied kelp at a 3000% markup...

I am very aware what's in the bottles. Lol. Always appreciate the wisdom though. I've got no problem paying 30 bucks for an entire line. I've had very good luck with it. I'm def not afraid of using true synthetics so not entirely organic dosent bother me. On another note I just put 5 catpiss and 5 of the agent orange cross into root plugs. Keep ur fingers crossed.

Tnelz · Sep 9, 2015

@SourDank what up nucca! Just popped those mass super skunk x Appalachia. Five for five came up. Going to be interesting. Where u been man?

chillywilly · Sep 9, 2015

I have to give u guys props, as I have a tiny grow op, if...if I had some of u folks set up, which I don't... blow the doors off the hinges lol...I'm a garden landscaper by trade and I do this everyday, cut grass, plant flowers, educate, train in this feild of SERVICE... this is just my hobby...I collect antiques, comics , sports memorabilia, and cannabis seeds amongst other s, many are in for the haul or call, and much is on call...
Peace cw...

MGRox · Sep 9, 2015

Some nice pics guys!! Glad to see everyone posting happy shots as opposed to having plant issues!!
I'm not sure if @Ned Kelly will get to see this; but "I'm sending you my best wishes and hope for the best".

Before finally posting the end to my recent rambles; I would like to take a step back "in time" for a minute and in reference to bullrider specifically. This is somewhat ancillary to the end point, but relevant to how I got there.

Since NPK testing is referenced; HERE is where I previously posted some results, if needed. (earlier in this thread)
It should be noted that my Bullrider is one of those strains that has a larger change in N threshold from early bloom to peak bloom.
After I had done the NPK testing, medium testing, container testing and most of the researching; I still had not seen any variable(s) that resulted in achieving numbers that were "normal" when I had been doing things all wrong. As well, from results of NPK testing it was obvious that: in order for my bull to achieve a higher yield without ruining "bud form or getting "larf; The missing / needed variable MUST be found in weeks 3-6 (peak bloom).
Still considering variations from old to new methods and research into reductase changes; I began to test Ammonium percentages as part of the total Nitrogen added. The intention with adding an ammonium percentage, was to investigate if part of the nitrate reductase system could be "bypassed" to allow a higher level of "total nitrogen" without toxicity. Ammonium levels were tested from 5-25% of total N and the Nitrate component was kept below a known toxicity level while total Nitrogen was above this point. At higher ammonium percentages, some of the obvious ammonium side effects were at the edge of showing; lighter green leaves, slightly smaller leaf area, etc. To my dismay, this still did not result in any apparent changes to "dry weight" nor get closer to those previous numbers. (even though the focus was on week 3-6 here, I did also test ammonium from weeks 1-3 to see if it altered node spacing; ....it did not).

Finally, I ran tests with "pk booster ratios" even though that was not something I had ever added; when doing it wrong. Since no other tests had shown results and (when doing it wrong) I did not ever water to run-off; I thought it may have been possible to have somehow hit PK boost ratios without knowing it. The results with this were covered in the "caveat"; prior when I talked about npk stuff. To reiterate though, even this did not affect final dry weight (however as mentioned did increase maturation rate / earlier swelling of calyx).

At this point, I totally admit to being super frustrated! I had tested every single variable that could be thought of and from multiple angles. As well, it is definitely worthwhile mentioning that any of the "newer" strains I had been raising, over this time; seemed to do just fine and produce dry weights that I would consider "normal". So (pardon french) I was thinking "what the fuck is going on!?" Actually, I also started considering the possibility (not knowing what else) that the genetics had somehow modified or lost vigor; specifically with bull.

** Something that is of paramount relevance moving forward; is that my prior results (when doing things wrong) had been a large portion of the "drive" to research and learn "why" there had been a change. I can say with 100% certainty that; had I not seen those numbers for so many years prior, I would never have ANY evidence that a higher yield would have been possible. If I had just started growing bullrider along with these other newer strains; I would've just said "eh, it's a low yielder; darn". Just looking from "doing things correctly" and forward; there was NO evidence that it was "missing" potential.
Further, and possibly the most important part, had I not already had a "working system" when doing things wrong; There is NO chance that I would have ever ultimately "figured out" how to achieve those prior results.
Basically, I'm saying there was a bit of dumb luck / good fortune / timing with my old "working method"; that was involved and required to arrive at what comes next.

It may seem as if I've been tip-toeing around the final point and I have. This will become evident for why very quickly. Be sure that you all have your tomatoes ready to throw at me and have your trolling comments setup for copy/paste. Take note when you read my next post to know that I have nothing to gain by bringing this up; other than to share the knowledge / results. I do not believe that, specifically, what and how I'm going to suggest things next; has ever been considered or tested before.

chillywilly · Sep 9, 2015

That's what it's about...trial and error and success...
cw...

SourDank · Sep 9, 2015

Tnelz said:
@SourDank what up nucca! Just popped those mass super skunk x Appalachia. Five for five came up. Going to be interesting. Where u been man?

Dude your gonna love those, I coulda kept every pheno of the first 5 females I ran. Absolutely amazing. And I've been so busy with moving and everything that I haven't real had a minute. My daughter just started pre-k to so getting everything ready for that as well has taken up all my time. Finally starting to settle though so I'll be back around again. Tons of new flavors comin too, soon you guys will all be like when's this mother fucker gonna quit spamming the god damn thread

Tnelz · Sep 9, 2015

SourDank said:
Dude your gonna love those, I coulda kept every pheno of the first 5 females I ran. Absolutely amazing. And I've been so busy with moving and everything that I haven't real had a minute. My daughter just started pre-k to so getting everything ready for that as well has taken up all my time. Finally starting to settle though so I'll be back around again. Tons of new flavors comin too, soon you guys will all be like when's this mother fucker gonna quit spamming the god damn thread

Want u in here as much as u want brother!

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