Transplant above stalk?

og619 · Jun 28, 2011

So i am about to transplant from a 3gal to 5 gal. Question being when i transplant can i transplant above this point (picture below). Plant has begun to lean and is towering over the others.

Seamaiden · Jun 28, 2011

Yes, but not too deeply, I will only do an inch or so, fear of damping off, pythium, that sort of thing.

freegrow · Jun 28, 2011

damping off ? ...I have done this like a tomato plant not had the bad side yet can we get alittle more info please Seamaden

is coco the same .....well proly more huh it stays wetter than dirt

mrbong73 · Jun 28, 2011

There's an old saying in gardening.
"Plant them low, they won't grow. Plant them high, they won't die"
which I take as meaning try to keep the crown (top of rootball) relatively high when transplanting.

mrb

Howzit Sea?

Seamaiden · Jun 28, 2011

freegrow said:
damping off ? ...I have done this like a tomato plant not had the bad side yet can we get alittle more info please Seamaden

is coco the same .....well proly more huh it stays wetter than dirt

I grow cannabis using many, if not most, of the same techniques I do in my other gardening, and I was taught a long time ago to never plant too deeply. Damping off is another term for rot, and for plants that receive regular waterings that is my concern. If the soil is allowed to dry out fairly well, I don't know if there is as much of a chance, it's just that it's a mistake I've made before (with other plants) and try not to make again.

mrbong73 said:
There's an old saying in gardening.
"Plant them low, they won't grow. Plant them high, they won't die"
which I take as meaning try to keep the crown (top of rootball) relatively high when transplanting.

mrb

Howzit Sea?

I haven't heard that saying, and I'm jonesing for my organic folks and the discussions that ensue! I'm almost thinking about wandering over to ICMag just to see what's up and if anyone's posting such discussions there. Been reading, SERIOUSLY reading, too. Gaia's Garden, currently, along with a book on organic farming for the market.

How're you doing?

Sunbiz1 · Jun 28, 2011

og619 said:
So i am about to transplant from a 3gal to 5 gal. Question being when i transplant can i transplant above this point (picture below). Plant has begun to lean and is towering over the others.

Why?, you've already buried this one lower at least once. Otherwise that Y would not be right at the soil line. Your plant is leaning b/c it's up against a wall and wants sun. I turn mine everyday so they don't grow all crazy, but that's just me. Some actually grow horizontally to increase yield though, an advanced technique I haven't tried yet.

freegrow · Jun 28, 2011

hay Seamaden have you see bay areas finding my nutes thread?

gooey · Jun 28, 2011

i like to put the plants in about an inch lower same way i do my tomato plants...i have noticed tho that soma uses a raised root type of transplat for outdoor container plants to ensure adaquete draingege...both ways workjust fine...i have some roots all showing at the surface, others have none of that...half art half science for me at least.,,,peace and puffs

og619 · Jun 29, 2011

Thanks for the responses, seems it should not cause any problems as long as i only bury around an inch or so. Just wasn't sure if i could bury above the Y, figure it would add some strength as well as compensate for the height difference with the other plants. Looks like ill be transplanting tomorrow.

Tobor the 8th Man · Jun 29, 2011

Every year I plant my tomato plants and pot plants as deep as I can. If I have a 3 foot plant when I get done there is only 4-6 inches sticking out of the ground. The rest had all the limbs taken off and will grow roots from those areas.

Dampening off does not happen to them like it does to a tender seedling stem. I totally agree there are many plants that should not be buried any deeper than they were previously but cannabis isn't one of them.

If you couldn't bury them deeper than how could we ever clone. That is the same as burying it up the stem farther. You are essentially sticking a stem in the soil that would normally never have been under soil.

Dampening off happens at the soil line where air and soil and water meet. It doesn't happen under ground. That is why a little layer of sand always prevents dampening off. The sand is the top layer and dries out quick.

budboy299 · Jun 29, 2011

I buried a 2 foot tall plant outdoors, up to the top 10". meaning at least 2' of it was buried (including rootball)

When I pulled it in the fall...roots had grown out of the main stalk. Area was fairly dry though and thats why it got buried deeply....to get to the water as I basically abandoned it all year.

Sunbiz1 · Jun 29, 2011

budboy299 said:
I buried a 2 foot tall plant outdoors, up to the top 10". meaning at least 2' of it was buried (including rootball)

When I pulled it in the fall...roots had grown out of the main stalk. Area was fairly dry though and thats why it got buried deeply....to get to the water as I basically abandoned it all year.

Once established, plants in the ground are very drought tolerant. I just put 2 footers in a month ago, but I did go back and water once early until root systems were established.

Happy growing!

Edit: Thought I was responding to thread author...and I haven't even smoked today yet...lol!

Seamaiden · Jun 29, 2011

Well, then if it works for you, I say DO IT! Very few things about husbandry of any sort are completely hard and fast. From (fish) stocking levels to light requirements to feeding, husbandry of living things is as much an art as it is a science. I personally have had some miserable failures in the past when planting a plant too deeply.

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