Whether or not it is safe has always been controversial, and I always tend to lean toward worst-case on anything controversial. Better safe than sorry. I would never use neem oil during flowering. Even if it is safe, it makes the buds taste bad if used when too far into flowering.I have 5 plants that just started to flower, week 1 or 2. They have spider mites, but not so bad that i'm seeing webs. I have sprayed them with neem oil. I am getting mixed results on whether its ok to use in flower or not. There is barely flower so to me it seems safe for the moment. Can anyone confirm or deny through experience that It is ok to use up until a certain point of flower?
I approve this message...Whether or not it is safe has always been controversial, and I always tend to lean toward worst-case on anything controversial. Better safe than sorry. I would never use neem oil during flowering. Even if it is safe, it makes the buds taste bad if used when too far into flowering.
Some good alternatives posted above. You can also fight fire with fire and bring over some good bugs of your own. Send in the ladybugs!
Yeah, so true. Can always start to prepare some perennials that attract the good predator bugs. Then it will be ready for the next grow season. My old neighbor used to always have sunflowers and marigolds around his garden. They attract all the good pollinators that also eat all the bad pests.Biological control is proactive and once your have sticky buds and have pest problems, you’ve lost the game. It’s not that ladybugs don’t eat mites, but mites reproduce WAAAAAAAAY faster than ladybugs eat. So if you have a mite infestation you’ll need to spray.
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Just a heads up that “detergent” should never be used as it contains synthetic chemicals, often derived from petroleum, that strip the protective waxy coating (cuticle) from the leaves. You can use a non-detergent dish soap, but better to use a Castile soap or insecticidal soap. (Also if you have silica, it’s a good emulsifier, but doesn’t act as a spreader-sticker.)I vote against using neem. Used alone, it tends to burn plants. The way to avoid it is to emulsify the neem with detergent and water. The burning is caused by the shape of droplets on the leaves and how light is focused. The detergent solution is supposed to avoid burning. There are recipes for the mixture on the Internet.
Does not burn plants in any way shape or form. Only if mixed to high of concentration. Neem oil has natural healing properties for plants and animals. Problem is how it makes the weed taste. What you propose is nothing more than mixing insecticidal soap with neem for a double punch. However it works better if you alternate with lower concentration. Neem, water, soap spray, water. Soap spray will burn if mixed wrong as well.I vote against using neem. Used alone, it tends to burn plants. The way to avoid it is to emulsify the neem with detergent and water. The burning is caused by the shape of droplets on the leaves and how light is focused. The detergent solution is supposed to avoid burning. There are recipes for the mixture on the Internet.
Complete disaster, when douchebag's try an corner the market only 20yrs earlier they were funding anti MMJ, by increasing the plague on home growing.Spray your plants. Too many newbs. Some of us grew for 30 years. Neem is still used in the legal cannabis market. Use it diluted. Spray every 3 days. Neem, water, soap spray, water. The problem with 99 percent of growers is that they never get their plants wet. Hose that shit down. Remove the residue. Especially the night before you harvest. Clean the walls. Clean the floor. Check your dried weed as mites live for eons. I have found them in a month old dried bud. Mites suck. Brought to you by the Bayer company. DDT changed the reproduction of mites from a 10 egg carrier to a 10000 egg carrier.
I should add, these plants are in an outdoor greenhouse.... It's wide open (now) and I think bad ventilation was a big part of the reason i got mites to begin with. Lady bugs are not an option (I did have some come in there naturally, but haven't seen any in awhile). I have since taken everything out of the greenhouse and sprayed everything down with bleach water. Weather is still warm here, so my plan is to keep the plants out of the greenhouse for about 2 weeks, then move them back in. I have been water blasting them every other day, but just used neem oil for the 1st time today.Yes it's the red army
"Even if it is safe, it makes the buds taste bad if used when too far into flowering."Whether or not it is safe has always been controversial, and I always tend to lean toward worst-case on anything controversial. Better safe than sorry. I would never use neem oil during flowering. Even if it is safe, it makes the buds taste bad if used when too far into flowering.
Some good alternatives posted above. You can also fight fire with fire and bring over some good bugs of your own. Send in the ladybugs!
Good information. Thanks.Just a heads up that “detergent” should never be used as it contains synthetic chemicals, often derived from petroleum, that strip the protective waxy coating (cuticle) from the leaves. You can use a non-detergent dish soap, but better to use a Castile soap or insecticidal soap. (Also if you have silica, it’s a good emulsifier, but doesn’t act as a spreader-sticker.)
I've seen reports to the contrary regarding burning. It has been discussed here many times. It isn't the neem itself that can burn. It's how oil droplets can form a lens that focuses light enough to cause burning. Using an emulsifier keeps avoids that. My understanding is it's more of a problem under artificial light that doesn't move like the sun moves. That said, it's up to the individual to decide whether to take the risk when other options are available.Does not burn plants in any way shape or form. Only if mixed to high of concentration. Neem oil has natural healing properties for plants and animals. Problem is how it makes the weed taste. What you propose is nothing more than mixing insecticidal soap with neem for a double punch. However it works better if you alternate with lower concentration. Neem, water, soap spray, water. Soap spray will burn if mixed wrong as well.
Hope it works out! To me the Ladies are always an option.I should add, these plants are in an outdoor greenhouse.... It's wide open (now) and I think bad ventilation was a big part of the reason i got mites to begin with. Lady bugs are not an option (I did have some come in there naturally, but haven't seen any in awhile). I have since taken everything out of the greenhouse and sprayed everything down with bleach water. Weather is still warm here, so my plan is to keep the plants out of the greenhouse for about 2 weeks, then move them back in. I have been water blasting them every other day, but just used neem oil for the 1st time today.
Athena IPM DESTROYED my spider mites. I now have clean healthy plants. I now mix big 5 gallon bucket of it and dip and swirl my clones/seedlings in it. No PM and no pests! Its expensive but worth itI have 5 plants that just started to flower, week 1 or 2. They have spider mites, but not so bad that i'm seeing webs. I have sprayed them with neem oil. I am getting mixed results on whether its ok to use in flower or not. There is barely flower so to me it seems safe for the moment. Can anyone confirm or deny through experience that It is ok to use up until a certain point of flower?
Add:My hope was that I would be able to get rid of them in 2 weeks time,
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