Log In Register

what could be wrong??? pls. help!

  • Thread starter Thread starter padyakol
  • Start date Start date
  • Tagged users Tagged users None

what could be wrong??? pls. help!

padyakol 49 Replies 5,633 Views
Page 2 of 3 · Replies 21–40 of 50
2400?!?!?! WHOA!! i wonder how much $ he is wasting on over feeding.


my MAX feed is around 600-750 depending on strain. if my runoff hits 950-1000 i'll flush. there is no reason to overload your plants if they dont need it. keep em healthy from the start, feed em well, they'll thank you the whole way through.


i think most peoples feeds get so high because they have to add so much junk just to get what they need. like most used products have ten extra "supplements" in it, like thats all youre gonna use.

Yea his shit is fucking crazy, but he only feeds like the first 30 to 45, and flushs the last month, and he still doesn't get any fades. His shit is dark green dark dark dark.

But point was that plants can handle a shit load of nutes.

590 seems really low, I think me personally 1200 is the sweet spot for any strain. It's like a standerd what ever number.

But my boy that runs the 2400, feeds his clones 1000 ppm, and I haven't seen better clones EVER. Hands down. I shit you not. The most healthiest vibrant, like you could flower them clones.
 
Ok now i'm confused. So what ppm should be right for flowering?
 
LMfAO 1200 in soil will kil the plants. I call bull shit man. Sorry, but it's not going to happen.

I have run 1800 in coco bro, and soil, and hydro, and got a boy running 2400 in roots organic with a modified version of Aliens nute formula. I have ran lo Ppm's and it's not were its at.

You are right on the 9.2 ph thing. But a 590 on the pmm is low as fuck. Like why run RO is your not going to boost ppm levals. Like what's the point?

But then again what do I know. I don't even bother to check ph or ppm anymore. I just think I can guess at it and be right. So....

So, you are recommending he feed with 1200ppm, on top of what ever foods are in his premixed bag soil when his plants look like this?
img_2224-jpg.327163
 
I have checked both thoroughly and they dont seem to have any pests under the leaves. No spider mite and whitefly or whatsoever. Or should i use a magnifying glass and further inspect again. Checked on ph and both are still at 6.5. I also transplanted my seedlings coz they were getting burned with the premix i have. This time i made my own mix using a lot of perlite, organic soiless potting mix, a little peat moss, hydroton clays and a little worm compost. Took some photos here they are.. Maybe i should change my forum name to "thenuteburner" eek!
 

Attachments

  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    150.7 KB · Views: 70
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    159.3 KB · Views: 63
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    137.9 KB · Views: 70
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    159.3 KB · Views: 69
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    153.5 KB · Views: 70
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    205.9 KB · Views: 69
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    238 KB · Views: 67
some close up pics from my phone..
 

Attachments

  • IMG_2255.jpg
    IMG_2255.jpg
    150.1 KB · Views: 73
  • IMG_2256.jpg
    IMG_2256.jpg
    101.9 KB · Views: 64
  • IMG_2260.jpg
    IMG_2260.jpg
    125 KB · Views: 103
  • IMG_2261.jpg
    IMG_2261.jpg
    117.9 KB · Views: 66
  • IMG_2257.JPG
    IMG_2257.JPG
    162.8 KB · Views: 73
dude no offense but i think mixing your own soil right now isnt the best course of action.

and look a LOT harder for those bugs. if i can tell they are there from pics you can see em. try to actually look not like "not look" you know?? haha.

grab a bag of roots organic or readygro coco or something and put them in that with water, maybe a LITTLE bit of tea. more nutes, random soil mixes, all this is in the R and D dept. so dont expect a productions style crop you know? but one comparable. but i'd get the plants looking good before i ever experiment.

and i feed my plants THROUGH FLOWER around 500, and homies on the same regimen have pulled over 2.5 a light with OGs. so i dont see the point in using so many nutes AT ALL, like i said unless you dont know what youre putting in there, and have to add a buncha shit to get what you think you need.

i say friends cause i personally did it in SOIL last time and got about 28 zips/per... not nearly as good as them but just sayin.
 
Folks, padyakol is running organics here, and he's in the Philippines. You're not going to get Roots Organic or other U.S. products out there, at least not very easily.
when you say more, what more can i give?

i can also get this from my local store:
Looks like good stuff.

As for how much, you haven't said how much by volume you're using, so right now I'm going to suggest adding 25% more than what you've been using, though I have an urge to suggest 50% or even doubling what you're feeding. Cannabis is a very rapid-growing plant, so you can feed it like maize, and if I recollect they have a formula for feeding different crops. If you're already feeding at that rate and it's still not enough, then start with 25%-50% more than what you've been using, and go up or down from there.
 
Ok now i'm confused. So what ppm should be right for flowering?
Don't pay attention to ppm's and stuff like that right now, it's going to add to the confusion. For example, what conversion ratio are they using when they say they feed at 1200ppm, or 1800ppm?

I think you DEFINITELY have spider mites there, too. Rubbing alcohol mixed at a ratio of 1:1 with water will help, applied every three days for the next two weeks.
 
Don't pay attention to ppm's and stuff like that right now, it's going to add to the confusion. For example, what conversion ratio are they using when they say they feed at 1200ppm, or 1800ppm?
700
 
Don't pay attention to ppm's and stuff like that right now, it's going to add to the confusion. For example, what conversion ratio are they using when they say they feed at 1200ppm, or 1800ppm?

I think you DEFINITELY have spider mites there, too. Rubbing alcohol mixed at a ratio of 1:1 with water will help, applied every three days for the next two weeks.

You like the rubbing alchol sea, When I tried it it fuckig rosted the plants. Dried them out. I don't rember my ratio bu it was pretty week, didnt kill the mites either.

Azamax mixed with captain jacks dead bug mixed at a tablespoon per gallon kills everything on contact and destroys the eggs so if thhey hatch they can't breed. You can spray or daily or every other with out burn. i do it for a week and it will completely eradicate all mites in your grow.
 
So, you are recommending he feed with 1200ppm, on top of what ever foods are in his premixed bag soil when his plants look like this?
img_2224-jpg.327163

What ever the fuck was in the pre mix soil is gone ounce he flushed it? Dugh! But if he had just planted them NO, Id say wait a week.

But sence be flushed them, the plants are big as hell in some little ass pots, then yes.
 
Look bro do what Im telling you.

Buy some azamax and captain jacks dead bug. Mix it at 1 table spoon per gallon and SOKE / DRENCH the plants under sides and upper of the leaves. Don't worry about burn. Do it every other day, untill the second week of flower. Also this works as a systemic, which means it can get in the soil, and wont kill your plants. :)

Go get some fox farm nutes mix that shit to 1200 ppm and a ph of 6.5, and feed daily to every other day, untill the last two seeks of flower, then water with plain water for a flush. Keep your room under 80 degrees, I like 75, with a Hummidy of no more that 60%. If you don't like fox farm, I would say go with Advance nutes iguana juice. Shit works real nice. Pricey though.

Dont worry about any other additives, your plants are fucked up becose you have mites, you flushed out all the food from the soil, were feeding them week as fuck, and were running a two high ph. Which made your weak ass formlula even weaker. And honastly it looks like a mild case of heat stroke. So make sure you check your temps, that's just a guess, and a good warning. Also mites love HOT air.

For clones get a bottle of clonex clone solution. Mix it at 900 ppm with a ph of 5.6 to 5.8, do not let any stagnet water sit in what ever medium your running,drench the mediom then discard the remaining water. Clones should be kept in the dark over night before being put under any light. I prefer shop lamps or LOW leval t5's, the big ones rost the little baby's. your clone room should be at 60 - 70 degrees, you can get buy in the 80's but they tend to not do that great. The go limp like a limp dick. :) they bend and disort, and generally look like shit. 60-70 60 being the best and they fucking stand straight the fuck up.

Don't worry about any other nutes untill you get the hang of this. I know the feeling of wanting to get all crazy, but for your first run keep it simple. After that start adding more shit. Depending on what you want to do.

Right now would be a great time to educate your self, on what additives do what. There's stuff ranging from yeild, to frost, to taste, ect.

This is comein from a guy who still pulls 4+k a bow in a med state. Im might not be getting the biggest yeild, but bro, I get the most per pound around.

Do that and you will be smoking some fire in no time bro.

Also just to be on the safe side, mix a little skim milk with water 50/50, just to make sure no powedery mildew pops up. There are other ways to handle it if it does, but it's dangerious and side your not showing signs it's points less.

All of this stuff I have just said will work, and doesn't have any ill effects on the plants, so there is nothing to fear.
 
Ps since your useing RO am already have the cal mag, wouldn't hurt to use it. Mix it at a yes spoon per gallon, unless the bottle suggests a extremely larger dose.

But a yea spoon per gallon, is always a good start for most nutes. It's kinda a standerd.
 
i am from the Philippines, I have limited resources here. I bought some hydro stuff a month ago and it is still there in the U.S., waiting for more stuff to fill out my box to be shipped door to door which takes roughly 45 days. i have no other choice but to use other local products that i can find here. will try out the bgone neem natural pest control i bought. its instructions for plants are as follows, for Lawn & Garden spray: Mix one part BGone LC up to twenty (20) parts water. For use on potted and foliage plants, trees and shrubs on residential landscapes. Apply on leaf surfaces to the point of run off. Be sure to coat under-sides of leaves where most insects hide. Its composition are Aqua, VCO(Virgin Coconut Oil), Carapa Guanensis Seed Oil (Andiroba Oil), Azadirachta Indica (NeemExtract), Atis Extract, Citronella Oil. Other plant extracts. will apply it 3 times a day. So do you guys suggest I hold off from adding nutes?
 
i am from the Philippines, I have limited resources here. I bought some hydro stuff a month ago and it is still there in the U.S., waiting for more stuff to fill out my box to be shipped door to door which takes roughly 45 days. i have no other choice but to use other local products that i can find here. will try out the bgone neem natural pest control i bought. its instructions for plants are as follows, for Lawn & Garden spray: Mix one part BGone LC up to twenty (20) parts water. For use on potted and foliage plants, trees and shrubs on residential landscapes. Apply on leaf surfaces to the point of run off. Be sure to coat under-sides of leaves where most insects hide. Its composition are Aqua, VCO(Virgin Coconut Oil), Carapa Guanensis Seed Oil (Andiroba Oil), Azadirachta Indica (NeemExtract), Atis Extract, Citronella Oil. Other plant extracts. will apply it 3 times a day. So do you guys suggest I hold off from adding nutes?

As far as the neem, maybe go halph strength to test it out.

Or try this, the plants are still kinda small. So fill a bucket with ice water, and dunk them. With your hands massage and wipe off the leaves. The ice water should kill the mites, and the dunk should either clean off the alive ones, and most of the eggs if not all of the if your tedious.

You could also mix up that stuff you got in the dunk.

But yea man, don't hold off on the food, even if you want to go weak I the food, like the rest of these guyys suggest your flush removed all your nutes, if not most of them.

Plus mites attack sick plants. It's always the sickest plants that get mites first.
 
Thanks for everyones input, for taking time out to read and answer my questions about growing. These two plants are actually my test grow, they are local baggie seeds. But still I am in pursuit of growing it successfully. In honor of my local strain i shall strive to succeed haha! I'll add half strength of the tea i made. I had it brewing in a gallon overnight. My temps range is 72-77 deg. F. Rh 40-60% its in an airconditioned room as temps in my country is at 89-93 deg. Update soon!
 
Thanks for everyones input, for taking time out to read and answer my questions about growing. These two plants are actually my test grow, they are local baggie seeds. But still I am in pursuit of growing it successfully. In honor of my local strain i shall strive to succeed haha! I'll add half strength of the tea i made. I had it brewing in a gallon overnight. My temps range is 72-77 deg. F. Rh 40-60% its in an airconditioned room as temps in my country is at 89-93 deg. Update soon!

Sounds like you got your room dialed pretty damn good man.

What kinda stuff you guys got over there for bag weed, like we're is it imported from? Would love to here some details.
 
Sounds like you got your room dialed pretty damn good man.

What kinda stuff you guys got over there for bag weed, like we're is it imported from? Would love to here some details.

I really don't know much.. I think the Philippines has no particular strain they say our stuff came from Vietnam & all I know is it is a Sativa. We have what pinoys call Baguio Gold & Sagada Hash and they come from the Mountain Province of Baguio City & Sagada, in Luzon. They usually make Hash, before Polen but the last time I scored some of this was 10-12 years ago. Here is a little something I found on the net. http://www.strainhunters.com/forums/topic/4326-sagada-bukidnon-and-new-bataan-philippines/
 
Page 2 of 3 · Replies 21–40 of 50
Back
Top Bottom