What deficiency do I have?

Eclipted · Jul 18, 2023

Imzzaudae said:
It's my understanding ocean forest is quite hot in the early stages. Quite a few guys have burning problems with young plants. I'm thinking you need to collect rain water and use it. Maybe loose the ph pen for now. ocean forest is a very carefully blended super soil designed as a just add water veg mix. The problem you have created flushing the pot is that you have washed a lot of the nutrients out of the soil along with the nitrogen. And the 2nd flush sure would not help the matter. This is a tough one. The purple parentage should have been a clue I missed earlier, cant say about the others. The plant seems to have enough nitrogen maybe keep using the flower stacker as it's 0 - 7 - 5 watch it close for signs of low calcium. Let it be. I don't know about the sweet and sticky. Will keep an eye on your post maybe I will also learn something.

I honestly can’t even attest to the sweet and sticky bc this is my first grow ever, the buds smell sweet I will say that lol. It’s supposed to be a flavonoid and terp enhancer but idk how good it really works. It has good reviews tho.
Is there any chance you think I’m washed of nitrogen?
I read nitrogen will lower your ph in soil, also it Carries phosphorus through the plant. If you get a chance check out nitrogen def and phos def.
I got locked, so I flushed, it flourished for 2 days after flush, like very noticeable bud growth, then stopped. I’m worried I washed my nutes out, which is why ph is rising, after that flush my plant sucked fhe last of my nitrogen, which made it to where phosphorus wasn’t moving correctly, and now it’s pulling from it self to try to get the nutes. 7ph is top of the spectrum for phosphorus intake and I’m right there if not a lil higher.

I’m gonna run some plain distilled water and try to collect rain water for now.
But yeah the bud the seed fell out of was super purple.

ArtfulCodger · Jul 18, 2023

Eclipted said:
Watering once every 2/3 days I have a moisture meter once it says dry I water them again. I don’t know my ppms or ec, I don’t know how to read those either. I’m also in a place where I can’t really afford to buy the stuff for it

In Ocean Forest, I water to 10% runoff, typically between a quarter and a third of the media volume, only when the pots are very light. I suspect low volume, high frequency watering might be part of the issue. Ocean Forest is a pretty hot soil. If I transplant into fresh OF at the start of flower, I might only feed once, maybe twice, for the rest of the grow.

Eclipted · Jul 18, 2023

ArtfulCodger said:
In Ocean Forest, I water to 10% runoff, typically between a quarter and a third of the media volume, only when the pots are very light. I suspect low volume, high frequency watering might be part of the issue. Ocean Forest is a pretty hot soil. If I transplant into fresh OF at the start of flower, I might only feed once, maybe twice, for the rest of the grow.

i water till I see run off, generally it takes about half a gallon before I see enough run off that I stop watering. They sit in roughly 2.5 gallons of soil

Eclipted · Jul 18, 2023

Eclipted said:
i water till I see run off, generally it takes about half a gallon before I see enough run off that I stop watering. They sit in roughly 2.5 gallons of soil

I put them in the pots may 18 the vegged in there for 22 days before they got flipped to 12/12. They got flushed twice in the last 2 months first due to nitrogen burn when I transplanted and then a few days back due to lockout. The flush the first time was a lot. Probably 3 gallons through each pot. This last flush was only 1 gallon in each

ArtfulCodger · Jul 18, 2023

Eclipted said:
i water till I see run off, generally it takes about half a gallon before I see enough run off that I stop watering. They sit in roughly 2.5 gallons of soil

20% of the soil volume sounds low to me, but everyone's situation is different. It might be worth a try to slow down the watering to see if you can get more into the pot. Just an idea.

Eclipted · Jul 18, 2023

ArtfulCodger said:
20% of the soil volume sounds low to me, but everyone's situation is different. It might be worth a try to slow down the watering to see if you can get more into the pot. Just an idea.

Do you think it would be beneficial for me to add an inch of soil to the top layer of the plant ? I have probably 2.5 inches of free space from top of soil to top of pot

ArtfulCodger · Jul 18, 2023

Eclipted said:
Do you think it would be beneficial for me to add an inch of soil to the top layer of the plant ? I have probably 2.5 inches of free space from top of soil to top of pot

I don't think it would hurt, but I don't think your main issue is root ball size.

Eclipted · Jul 18, 2023

ArtfulCodger said:
I don't think it would hurt, but I don't think your main issue is root ball size.

I’m gonna add some soil to the top. Then hit with plain water. I really truly think bc my ph is so high my plant isn’t getting proper phosphorus intake. The flower stacker I use has no nitrogen but it does have phos and potassium. I think adding the soil may bring my ph down slightly while adding some probably needed nutes since I flushed them out lol. Next watering I’m gonna add the flower stacker back in but probably at a higher rate then I was using it. I was using the least amount possible. Hopefully the extra soil can buffer my ph down to like a 6.8 and let my plant suck up the phosphorus.

Does this sound like a good plan?

ArtfulCodger · Jul 18, 2023

Eclipted said:
Does this sound like a good plan?

You can try it. I'm not the guy to ask about managing pH in soil. I don't even check it. If my inputs are between 5.0 and 7.0, I assume the soil will buffer it and it's always worked pretty well. Granted, I've never done a full flush mid-grow, so I have no idea what's still in your pots. (I manage pH more carefully in coco.)

Eclipted · Jul 18, 2023

ArtfulCodger said:
You can try it. I'm not the guy to ask about managing pH in soil. I don't even check it. If my inputs are between 5.0 and 7.0, I assume the soil will buffer it and it's always worked pretty well. Granted, I've never done a full flush mid-grow, so I have no idea what's still in your pots. (I manage pH more carefully in coco.)

So what I did was added some more soil into the pots and gave them a pure watering, picked off the ugly leaves and gonna keep and eye on it. Will keep you updated

Eclipted · Jul 18, 2023

Eclipted said:
So what I did was added some more soil into the pots and gave them a pure watering, picked off the ugly leaves and gonna keep and eye on it. Will keep you updated

Did a lil research and you’re 100% right soil should buffer it out. I read on another forum when using fox farm soil you do not need to ph your water, multiple people said as soon as they quit ph-ing their water their problems went away. I’m gonna give straight distilled it’s around a 6.5 6.8 ph straight out the jug. Plus the nutes I use are supposedly ph balanced as well as the soil. Next watering I’m hitting back with the flower stacker maybe even 1ML per gallon of tiger bloom

royfree2grow · Jul 21, 2023

Not a good fertilization regimen.
You lack nitrogen and micros completely.

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