What Do My Girls Need

[Buddaone1]

Ok this first pic is gsc 6.5 weeks left of 10 and the second is grape god 5 weeks left of 8. My water starts off at 7.7ph and 325 ppm mostly calcium i lower the ph to 6.6 and when feeding the ppms get up to 13k. I use dirt pot soft pots with promix bx, advanced nutes under 1k hps with uv t5 supplmental lights. The temps get down to 65 at night and 75 with lights on. Rh is 50 hardly ever lower sometimes higher for an hr or 2 until i empty the dehumidfier. Any help on how to get and keep these girls healthy will be greatly appreciated.

 

[THCdurk]

@tattoojim guide him in the right way wise one.

 

[Buddaone1]

And sorry 1330 ppms

 

[Buddaone1]

I went lower than 6.6 and it fked my plants up in veg. The ec with all the nutes is 1.3k not 13k. If thats too high should i put less micro? I can understand the cold as the gsc is right under the ac which i just had to buy the beginning of the summer and this summer i needed the extra cold to keep it cool enough with the lights on. So i'll raise it to 67 and hope that does the trick or should i giver some extra p and lower ph to 6

 

[Buddaone1]

http://www.pthorticulture.com/en/tr...growing-mediums-ph-with-water-and-fertilizer/
I would lower it to 6. I wouldn't mess around trying to give it more P specifically. If you lower the ph it will make more P available. Lower ph lower ec give them a heavy runoff watering next time they need it and I try to keep my day and night temps pretty even(zero diff) in all but the last few weeks to encourage ripening and bring out the purple( cold inhibiting P uptake making it go purple). Going below 70 can make the plant think the end of season is near and finish early. I've seen finicky kushy heavy indy types finish in 5weeks w too cold of nights. For some reason I thought u meant 1300ppm cuz u said 1.3k. If u mean 1.3ec then that's fine possibly even low. What's your runoff coming out at? Lower than going in? What AN base u using?

I norm dont get runoff i keep a 2 day watering cycle. If i water til runoff it'll take like 4 days to dry up enough to water again. It is 1300 ppm with all the nutes. I have a perpetual grow so i harvest about every 1.5 and i use the origanl jungle juice

 

[Buddaone1]

Ok I've adjusted the temp to 68 it will rise as the lights come on, I'll check to see how much when its time. my water feed day is tomorrow i norm dont adjust the ph with the feed as its 6.6 6.7 but i will lower to 6 as well as the water with the cpl an additives 2 days later or when they dry up. Ill get a runoff reading tomorrow and of course it'll take a little while to notice a dif in dirt but i will keep you updated

 

[Buddaone1]

or do you think I should just do phed water and check the runoff and see what it reads? or maybe molasses water? Thank you for your help by the way. It is appreciated

 

[Buddaone1]

Jungle 3part is basically gh 3part. I'd go 1/4 of your normal strength feed ph 5.8-6.0 run em thru good see what comes out. Chances are it'll b high if u haven't been watering to runoff. If it comes out really high 2k+ keep running thru til it's under 1k. Raise your night to 70+ equal to day they'll dry out much faster.

will do and I'll try to get the temps closer to the same it's just this summer I had to set the ac that cool just to get it to stay under 80 with the lights on and there's always a plant near the end so I don't want it too hot. I'll check it as soon as there's enough runoff then i'll get the wetvac ready and test it again right before I have to start sucking the excess off. i'll also check the ph to see if that's low or high hopefully it's not low. If the ppms come out under 1k and the ph is around 6 then its good and prolly just the temps or? Thank you again

 

[Buddaone1]

Well the ph is definitely high but overall your plants don't look horrible -nice stacking in the second pic. Is that one plant in each pic ? If you put in 3-400ppm ph 6 and u haven't really had runoff before and u been feeding heavy it will likely take a lot of run off to get it down under 1k. I see now why you don't wanna raise night temp too much cuz of the staggered harvests but 70-75f isn't too high to interfere w ripening. I've had rooms where the lights AND ac is on a flip flop( horrible idea lol) w an adjacent room and night temps would go up to 90+ and buds still finished nice. Low temps can cause early fan leaf yellowing too. I also had a room full of pure kush before where I accidentally adjusted one of the acs down to 55f while putting up a fan week 2or3 I didn't notice til week 4 (d'oh!) by that time my plants were looking a lot like yours yellowing fans n purpling. Definitely made them finish early. Good luck ;)

Yes only one per and i looked today buds are still getting bigger and yeah ive always seen early yellowing in leaves yet the buds seem rarely effected. They've gotten bigger since i started phing about 7 or so months ago and started tasting even better so i just counted it as a win but the gsc seems more finiky then any other strains I've had. Most of the strains I've had are 8 weekers so i decided to get some help and you've been a big one so far. And the reason why im worried bout the low soil ph is cause ive been giving it 1.5 ml ph down per gal for the past 2 months since i got my meter and when i was doing 2ml/g for a cpl months bout 6 months ago the water ph was in high 5s in veg the runoff ph got down into the 4s according to the dye test but i didnt have a ppm or ph meter back then. The flower room at that time didnt seeem affected until the ac went out on july 4th weekend and screwed everything as it got past 110 for at least 1 full day. I corrected the veg by giving my strait hard water then going to 1ml ph down per gal as i figured it was better than strait hard water. Once again thx man

 

[Buddaone1]

Heres another one in the same room has bout 4 weeks left

 

[Buddaone1]

What size of pot are those in? I grow big plants too. It's hard to keep a plant looking perfect for that long. An underwater here an overwater there an accidental temp spike( a few really hot days can cause mass yellowing too) all leave their mark on our old ass plants. I envy the guys that can grow as many plants as they want..... I used to do small plants it was so much easier. That's quite a bit of calcium in your water it likely is building up in your soil over time which should raise your ph. I recently got a new ph meter calibrated it side by side with my year old one they agreed in the cal solution but stick them in the res they read .3-.4 different. Ph and everything else get more and more important when you push your plants hard. I'm curious to see what your runoff is. A lot of people recommend a soil sample slurry test but I've never actually done one it would be really hard to pop out a 20gal and take a soil sample , guess u could cut an access window. Any reason you went w the promix bx opposed to hp? Nice plant btw. Gonna be over one potato looks like if it keeps chugging along. Your hairs still all white and intact?

all my plants are in 5g soft pots. I put em there after the clones are big enough from a cup. I've been trying to keep my plants smaller cause they were getting over 9ft as I ran out of room. And yeah should be about 1.25-1.5. Hairs looking perfect she has been taking 1.33g every 2 days. The reason why I went with the bx is because when I started out in 3g soft pots the hp did dry out faster but I had such old and huge plants that I was watering everyday if not twice a day and they were looking overwatered then underwatered constantly. The bx held in the moisture better so I could do the 2 day water cycle without having to clean up the runoff and I can give plants more water without runoff if the plant is using it. Since then I have perfected the 2 day water cycle in 5g with bx and the plants look healthy with thick stalks in veg. for 2-3 weeks in flower they are green and healthy it just seems when the buds start really growing it starts yellowing so not completely perfected. Yeah after you start having to tie everything up there's really no moving it anymore. With the 5g pots you have to tie up because the plant gets heavier than the pot when she starts putting on wieght. I'm bout to go do everything here soon and I will update with pics. Oh and after adjusting the ac to 68 I only saw a rise to 73 so I can probally go up to 70 without it getting hot but I got to pull a monster here sat so i'll wait til then to raise to 70.

 

[Buddaone1]

Well i lowed the ph to 6.1 at 420ppm. It took 2.5gs to get enough runoff to test, it came out at 5.8 with a ppm of 1920 so right now I'm filling more gs to get her down to the 1k mark anf going to do the rest of the girls in the room pics will follow after i get the ppms down

 

[Buddaone1]

I did have 1 that had 2140 ppm. So I've been going though getting them all down to bout 800 with reg water then i plan on putting some chems in with the last gal before calling it good. I did check the ph with pen and drops. The runnoff color looked like my nute mixture so ive been rinsing till its kinda clear. I do think that there was a salt buildup after seeing how red the runoff was. Maybe i should flush every cpl weeks or so. Thanks for your help!

 

[Buddaone1]

No problem. Happy to help. That first pic does look like it just got a little cold. Wouldn't hurt to pull off some of those yellows. Mine also start to yellow a little bout three weeks in after stretch. I think the rapid growth in those first few weeks takes up a lot of the plants reserves. My ogs yellow but cookie crosses stay mint it's weird but in the end the ogs come out on top. The last pic ,if it's almost done , looks fine too just gettin her fade on. I don't know how your plants are standing w that little of support lol I cut my scrog at chop and the plant literally tears itself apart if I'm not careful. Check these out dude on here's idea might work for you

Thx and yeah shes getting close. And if you notice the later on in the plant the more strings holding her up lol. Gotta cut this one like now

 

[Buddaone1]

No problem. Happy to help. That first pic does look like it just got a little cold. Wouldn't hurt to pull off some of those yellows. Mine also start to yellow a little bout three weeks in after stretch. I think the rapid growth in those first few weeks takes up a lot of the plants reserves. My ogs yellow but cookie crosses stay mint it's weird but in the end the ogs come out on top. The last pic ,if it's almost done , looks fine too just gettin her fade on. I don't know how your plants are standing w that little of support lol I cut my scrog at chop and the plant literally tears itself apart if I'm not careful. Check these out dude on here's idea might work for you

Thx and yeah shes getting close. And if you notice the later on in the plant the more strings holding her up lol. Gotta cut this one like now