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Hobbyist level wine is when your front yard is a vineyard (quarter acre) and you sell to a vintner. I think. Maybe?Again look at the wine industry - how many wineries out there have just 1 or 2 people doing all the work? Even the smallest wineries and breweries still employ a considerable number of people and have a production rate far beyond any hobbyist.
OMG, it's unbelievable how 'we' are with each other. We're supposed to be on the same team, for Christ's sakes! But the level of rudeness alone makes me shake my head and want to be uninvolved, I find it so disgusting the way folks will treat each other, even over this ONE issue. I think you've nailed it on the head, because the end result is still prohibition.One of the biggest things holding the industry back is that growers are so damn fractured and we have no united front for anything, just look at the divide over AUMA. I have actually become fairly disgusted with some of these so-called activists who supposedly are fighting for our right to grow and consume cannabis. Many of them are so unrealistic, so pig headed and stubborn, and so unable to compromise on any level that they do as much damage to the cannabis industry and hold back the legalization movement as much as even the most hard line the prohibitionists do.
That is correct. Now everyone has to be permitted and it's being treated like alcoholic beverages--no vertical integration, every step is separate and separated. If you wish to become a cultivator, you need your permits that also permit you to sell to a distributor.Good luck guys the first step will be them not letting you sell your weed to the dispensary, so for those who think they will be selling there home grown at any price is just not going to happen legally anyway.
Black market is just getting bigger. Here in Oregun most medical growers are giving up there medical cards and going underground. I personally have people coming to me wanting QPs for there personal use because the price at the dispensarys are so expensive. it's a no brainer to save money buying in quantity then gettin jerked by the state tax. Come on man $15 fucking bucks a gram fuck them and there fucking tax. Besides I brows these dispensarys and mostly what there pedaling is a bunch of shit I used to smoke when I was 15 back in 1985. So fuck the state black markets Gona BOOM. Thank god for legalization. YEEEHAWWW!!!!!!They have been saying you can't sell grow/sell forever and it hasn't stopped anyone yet has it?if they tax it high like you know they will that will just increase the black market more.i think what you will see is people in the movement turn on each other,the big money greed driven larger producers will do everything in their power to shut out home growers,were already seeing it.i f you had a choice would you buy heavily taxed meh blue dream and gorilla glue big producing hybrids or well grown potent buds for 25-40% less from your local contacts?black market ain't going nowhere,just my opinion.
Hobbyist level wine is when your front yard is a vineyard (quarter acre) and you sell to a vintner. I think. Maybe?
The industry wants to crush small timers like a bug....In California you can produce 200 gallons of wine per year for personal and family use as a hobbyist. You cannot sell it.
My main point being that when I look at even the smallest family run wineries and smallest breweries in our area, they still employ a considerable number of people, especially during harvest - far more than you see with grow scenes. You just don't see any one man wineries or breweries actually making money, the scale of production is too small and the work load too large.
If small farmers are to survive we need to be looking to increase efficiency, expand production, and start thinking about banding together into co-ops or something similar. A single lone farmer will not stay in business.
I disagree. It is already highly regulated and taxed, and it most definitely won't be re-classified to schedule 2. They would have to recognize it's medical value, and that isn't going to happen.Marijuana will be desheduled to schedule 2 in the next year. It will be highly regulated and over taxed. Look at the guidelines on alcohol and tobacco. The writing is on the wall.
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