MIMedGrower
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I am not suggesting you change what works for you. And i have no water culture experience at all.
I'm using mega crop I have always supplemented mag sufate at the end... Not that I found a deficiency but because sulfur is largely responsible for terpene and flavonoids so ensure I have more than enough is good enough reason for me. Mag sulfate is like $5 a pound so for me it's not even a question but to add it and have seen no negative effects. I feel like it helps but that could be my own bias.
Nah I got ya 100% and I'm sure we see slightly different resluts because I'm in hydro and your in soil. Love when we talk and get into the good info. Learned a lot over the time from you.I am not suggesting you change what works for you. And i have no water culture experience at all.
I am not suggesting you change what works for you. And i have no water culture experience at all.
Im gonna test all this out on 4 clones during my next run, that way it will be an apples to apples comparison. One will be grown using pure blend pro grow for veg then their bloom nutes for flower, the second will start on grow then get 50/50 grow and bloom nutes after switching to 12/12, the third will only get grow nutes, and the fourth will use megacrop. Each will be in their own 5 gallon dwc bucket and will share the same light. I don't think I will start that thread until I'm ready to post the results so if everyone can just hang tight for about 4-5 months we might be able to settle the op's questionNah I got ya 100% and I'm sure we see slightly different resluts because I'm in hydro and your in soil. Love when we talk and get into the good info. Learned a lot over the time from you.
Also can you to compare taste and burn when using bloom nutes with higher phosphorus. I think i would rather see the difference from 12/12 using bloom and waiting say 3 weeks then using bloom. Mixing 50/50 will I feel give similar results as just grow.Im gonna test all this out on 4 clones during my next run, that way it will be an apples to apples comparison. One will be grown using pure blend pro grow for veg then their bloom nutes for flower, the second will start on grow then get 50/50 grow and bloom nutes after switching to 12/12, the third will only get grow nutes, and the fourth will use megacrop. Each will be in their own 5 gallon dwc bucket and will share the same light. I don't think I will start that thread until I'm ready to post the results so if everyone can just hang tight for about 4-5 months we might be able to settle the op's question
I've pretty much always waited for the plants to start to flower (about 1-3 weeks depending on the plant) before I used the bloom nutrients and don't dispute that switching early would be worse. That doesn't seem like it is as much as a controversial issue or at least not one that you have to convince me of.I think i would rather see the difference from 12/12 using bloom and waiting say 3 weeks then using bloom.
I bet you are right.Mixing 50/50 will I feel give similar results as just grow.
It has worked a lot better for me than the gh 3 part, I haven't had any nutrient issues since switching that weren't more or less self inflicted which is mostly why I'm so surprised to see so many of you against it. I'm stubborn enough that I need to do this comparison before I can commit to changing my methods, especially since using different nutes for flower has been one of the few things that I haven't changed over the last 12 years. That being said I'm not so stubborn (or dumb) that I would resist switching to whichever method proves to work the best .I have seen enough that im certain no bloom nutes are needed or are beneficial for most grows. Of course different manufactures use different ratios and I feel PBP has better ratio's than most bloom nutes
Im gonna test all this out on 4 clones during my next run, that way it will be an apples to apples comparison. One will be grown using pure blend pro grow for veg then their bloom nutes for flower, the second will start on grow then get 50/50 grow and bloom nutes after switching to 12/12, the third will only get grow nutes, and the fourth will use megacrop. Each will be in their own 5 gallon dwc bucket and will share the same light. I don't think I will start that thread until I'm ready to post the results so if everyone can just hang tight for about 4-5 months we might be able to settle the op's question
I've pretty much always waited for the plants to start to flower (about 1-3 weeks depending on the plant) before I used the bloom nutrients and don't dispute that switching early would be worse. That doesn't seem like it is as much as a controversial issue or at least not one that you have to convince me of.
I bet you are right.
It has worked a lot better for me than the gh 3 part, I haven't had any nutrient issues since switching that weren't more or less self inflicted which is mostly why I'm so surprised to see so many of you against it. I'm stubborn enough that I need to do this comparison before I can commit to changing my methods, especially since using different nutes for flower has been one of the few things that I haven't changed over the last 12 years. That being said I'm not so stubborn (or dumb) that I would resist switching to whichever method proves to work the best .
It will be an interesting test for sure but i have to say one grow is not enough to really dial in any of the combinations of nutes.
It took me a while to switch from bloom nutes and mixing during transition like i thought it should be done to getting better results with only the grow bottle.
It ended up teaching me i needed much less nutes than i was adding. And the closer i got to giving only as much as they used between water/feedings the better the final product.
Good practice to me. Also by plant response that may indicate an imbalance of ratios. Then res change and continue.I always adjust my ppms based on how the reservoir is responding to the last feed rather than following feeding schedules. For example, If I feed a plant nutrients at 500ppm and the during the next day or the truncheon reads the reservoir at closer to 400-450 then my next feed will be closer to 550-600ppm. If instead I get a reading above 550ppm (allowing for some increase from evaporation) then I dial the next feed back to 400-450ppms. I will use this technique on all 4 plants in the comparison unless there are any objections or suggestions.
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