Why the leaves are so small?

[grow01]

Guys, help me, what is happening here? Why They are so small? The leaves are sooo small, I already grown these strains and isn't like this...
Will I have less yield bc of this?
Will it recovery?
Do I need to size down and germinate another seed?
Humidity 50-60% - Light 800W(using 40%) - 4L Plant pot - Light Soil Biobizz, started bio grow from 2nd week, all normal, and bio roots from 1st week

The other 3 plants in the grow are growing really good, that is why I am confused...

Thanks

 

[Randyy]

Guys, help me, what is happening here? Why They are so small? The leaves are sooo small, I already grown these strains and isn't like this...
Will I have less yield bc of this?
Will it recovery?
Do I need to size down and germinate another seed?
Humidity 50-60% - Light 800W(using 40%) - 4L Plant pot - Light Soil Biobizz, started bio grow from 2nd week, all normal, and bio roots from 1st week

The other 3 plants in the grow are growing really good, that is why I am confused...

Thanks

Hi, I would like to try and help, but I'm a bit unsure about what it is that you are confused about?!

It seems to me that you are simply confused that you have a plant that is growing slower than other plants? Is this correct?

If so, then you do realize that plants grown from seed will always be different even if they are of the same strain?

Looking at the pictures I don't think that there is that big of a difference in size. I wouldn't be too worried if I was you.

 

[grow01]

Hi, I would like to try and help, but I'm a bit unsure about what it is that you are confused about?!

It seems to me that you are simply confused that you have a plant that is growing slower than other plants? Is this correct?

If so, then you do realize that plants grown from seed will always be different even if they are of the same strain?

Looking at the pictures I don't think that there is that big of a difference in size. I wouldn't be too worried if I was you.

This for example, look the leaves, They are longer and bigger... same strain other grow...

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

They look okay to me. 40% of an 800-watt light is likely to keep them short, so reducing it some might change how they're growing. I'd just let them grow if they're photos. Autos might be a different story. That Royal Gorilla has really big leaves for a plant so young.

 

[grow01]

They look okay to me. 40% of an 800-watt light is likely to keep them short, so reducing it some might change how they're growing. I'd just let them grow if they're photos. Autos might be a different story. That Royal Gorilla has really big leaves for a plant so young.

yeah it is gorilla with 1st topping, but the others idk... weird, maybe germinate again?
Look the photo above, it was same strain og kush in other grow

 

[Hossgrows]

Id just be happy that it's alive and growing. I've seen many of runty plants out do other plants, later down the road. And healthy plants not do squat.
Mother nature can't be controlled. Even in a tent, she has her minions

 

[THCosmic]

Id just be happy that it's alive and growing. I've seen many of runty plants out do other plants, later down the road. And healthy plants not do squat.
Mother nature can't be controlled. Even in a tent, she has her minions

This! No signs of deficiencies or other stressors. Let it grow and see what happens. This one may be focused on more root growth which will definitely help it grow faster later.

 

[grow01]

Hi guys! update! not good news.... I did wrong watering, like no plain water only with nutrients on Royal Gorilla... sorry, my first grow, anyways, I did a flush with 2x the size the pot(4L so I gave 8L to flush) and It reduced the EC from 1,1 to 0,7.
I feel that the others are a little stressed for this overfeeding...look the leaves they are so weird... what can I do to fix it?
I did the flush only on Royal Gorilla bc it was burning, and I decrease the gap of watering to 1 day, then: 1 Day 01 Plain Water - Day 2 No Watering - Day 3 Nutrients, and repeat.

Last watering was with plain water on all plants and flush on Royal Gorilla, maybe I need to flush the others or just give the next watering with plain water again and after this start again with little dosages of nutrients(Bio grow and Bio Heaven, I already stopped with Root Juice).

Please, help me fellows!

 

[Tahoekushcat]

Topping tiny little seedlings is stressful

 

[grow01]

Topping tiny little seedlings is stressful

Yeah, I know, I need some solution please. what do I need to do?

 

[grow01]

@LoveGrowingIt Please, help me, What is the next step do I need to do to recover it?

Hi guys! update! not good news.... I did wrong watering, like no plain water only with nutrients on Royal Gorilla... sorry, my first grow, anyways, I did a flush with 2x the size the pot(4L so I gave 8L to flush) and It reduced the EC from 1,1 to 0,7.
I feel that the others are a little stressed for this overfeeding...look the leaves they are so weird... what can I do to fix it?
I did the flush only on Royal Gorilla bc it was burning, and I decrease the gap of watering to 1 day, then: 1 Day 01 Plain Water - Day 2 No Watering - Day 3 Nutrients, and repeat.

Last watering was with plain water on all plants and flush on Royal Gorilla, maybe I need to flush the others or just give the next watering with plain water again and after this start again with little dosages of nutrients(Bio grow and Bio Heaven, I already stopped with Root Juice).

Please, help me fellows!

Sorry, I said I had 1,1 EC on Royal Gorilla, but I had 1,4 EC
the EC of the Royal Gorilla was 1,4 EC and I reduced it to 0,7 EC with the flushing, because It was burning the tips of the leaves like in the photos.

 

[GNick55]

geez, your over mothering the plants,. quit with that ec ppm ph stuff, it’s not needed for your set up,. you need to stop flushing and just go through a wet/dry cycle, nothing else needed for now

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

@LoveGrowingIt Please, help me, What is the next step do I need to do to recover it?

I can't do better than what @GNick55 recommended. Plants have a life of their own. Sometimes our best option is to let them live it.

 

[Randyy]

Yeah, I know, I need some solution please. what do I need to do?

You can top your plants at the stage you have topped them. Sure they will suffer some stress, but they always do when you train them. So I would disregard what Tahoekushcat said. I mainline my plants meaning, I stress them a lot in the early stages of their growth and they always recover. No need to worry!

Also I would take that advice from GNick seriously. A lot of times new growers kill their plants with love, so to speak. You don't really need to do much for the plants to thrive!!! So get your watering game in order and as far as nutrients go, just follow the nutrient schedule provided by BioBizz. I usually start at half strength and then gradually increase the solution to full strength. And that's really all you need to focus on, the plants will do the rest.

 

[Randyy]

When it comes to watering, then I suggest that you make a habit of lifting the pots on a daily basis as you are learning. You need to get a feel for the weight of the pots and lifting them will help you get this feel so you can better determine when to water.

When I was learning how best to water my plants, I would deliberately underwater them just to see how little water I could give them while taking note of the weight of the pots. I would also over water them on purpose. By doing this I learned what it looks like when I am over or under watering and I can more easily determine whether I made that mistake or not. Getting this feel for the weight of the pots is also important because as the plants grow they will require more water and since all plants grow at different speeds it's not really possible to make watering schedule that will work every time.

It may set you back a little to experiment like this, but it will surely benefit you in the long run!

 

[grow01]

guys, I had some problems in my grow as you can see on the last posts, anyways I did all again from seed, now its all growing very well without problems in the beginning.

However now I am having a preoccupation/worry about the height, like not all plants are in the same age(2 plants with 3 weeks younger, the first 2 plants of the photo) I am waiting that 2 plants get more height to switch to flower.
The oldest plant is from July 13th, others from 18th and 23th July, and the 2 younger from 7th August.
So I did supper cropping on 1 plant that was super tall, bc the stem is woody and won’t bend easily to do LST, I did on 1 plant 2 days ago(photo attached), and now I think I will need to do on others...

What is the average height I need to keep on vegetative stage to switch to flower without issues with the height till the end ? They are reaching 50cm... I think I need to keep on 40cm maximum on vegetative stage, my grow tent has 2 meters, less 30cm for fan and light, so around 1,70cm usable.
I am keeping the light closer to not stretch too much.

The problem is...doing the super cropping it is getting super crowded, the branch falling on top of the other plants, i am pissed off with it, next time I will do 6 plants instead 7... 1 less plant will make a lot difference for the space, definitely!

Am I doing right? suggestions?

 

[GNick55]

guys, I had some problems in my grow as you can see on the last posts, anyways I did all again from seed, now its all growing very well without problems in the beginning.

However now I am having a preoccupation/worry about the height, like not all plants are in the same age(2 plants with 3 weeks younger, the first 2 plants of the photo) I am waiting that 2 plants get more height to switch to flower.
The oldest plant is from July 13th, others from 18th and 23th July, and the 2 younger from 7th August.
So I did supper cropping on 1 plant that was super tall, bc the stem is woody and won’t bend easily to do LST, I did on 1 plant 2 days ago(photo attached), and now I think I will need to do on others...

What is the average height I need to keep on vegetative stage to switch to flower without issues with the height till the end ? They are reaching 50cm... I think I need to keep on 40cm maximum on vegetative stage, my grow tent has 2 meters, less 30cm for fan and light, so around 1,70cm usable.
I am keeping the light closer to not stretch too much.

The problem is...doing the super cropping it is getting super crowded, the branch falling on top of the other plants, i am pissed off with it, next time I will do 6 plants instead 7... 1 less plant will make a lot difference for the space, definitely!

Am I doing right? suggestions?

hey brother been busy with harvesting etc,,
things look to be good,,
i’ll be here later to help out,.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

What is the average height I need to keep on vegetative stage to switch to flower without issues with the height till the end ?

As a guesstimate, I take the maximum distance from the top of the soil to the bottom of the light and divide it by three. One third is for vegetation, another third is for stretching, and the top third is for light dispersion.

I am keeping the light closer to not stretch too much.

That's too close, IMO. They don't all stretch the same, so it involves some guesswork. I've noticed that stretch can be reduced by doing a slow flip.

the branch falling on top of the other plants, i am pissed off with it

It doesn't look like it's doing well, so I'd consider cutting it off. The plant is still vegging, so maybe it could grow some new stems.

next time I will do 6 plants instead 7...

4 sq ft per plant is a good estimator for the size of pots you're using.

Am I doing right?

Right? There is no one right way to grow cannabis. There are many ways to do it and most work well. Your plants look healthy.

suggestions?

Raise the light and put the smaller plants on boxes or something to get all the crowns about the same distance from the light. Also, start flowering nutrients before flipping the light.