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This is my little girl. Been growing her since October 2022. Have her in a 5 gallon smart pot and only feed her maybe 2 litter of water every time she’s dry. Any advice for better growth ?
 

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Can you give more info on.

media

temp

humidity

nutrients used and how much
 
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Temp is steady at 76 degrees
Humidity is between 40 to 45 at times
The neuts I’m using is fox farm cal mag, big buds liquid fert, ph up and down kit and neem oil for pest control. I water her maybe every two days or so according to the dryness of soil I measure up to my first knuckle to see if lower soil is a bit dry. I have a fan running 24/7 and i try to measure out my nutrients to the water I’m giving according yo the labels.
 
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Temp is steady at 76 degrees
Humidity is between 40 to 45 at times
The neuts I’m using is fox farm cal mag, big buds liquid fert, ph up and down kit and neem oil for pest control. I water her maybe every two days or so according to the dryness of soil I measure up to my first knuckle to see if lower soil is a bit dry. I have a fan running 24/7 and i try to measure out my nutrients to the water I’m giving according yo the labels.
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Ok what brand of soil? To me it seems like your probably over watering. Which means to often. In a 5 gal pot with a plant that size your likely to need to water once every 4-5 days if that.

over watering can cause all that you described in the previous thread. You also dont want to use the knuckle method it very unreliable.

also feed nutrients at 1/4 the recommended dose as most recommend far far to strong.

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So the soil is a cheap Home Depot miracle grow moisture keeping potting soil and ok I’ll scale back on water. But I only give it maybe a liter or 2 everytime so idk how much a 5 pot gallon plant is supposed to drink.this grow was definitely an experiment to see if I enjoy growing as much as smoking and I do so I’m determined to get it right next time.
 
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Couple things... measuring dryness to your first knuckle isn't an accurate measurement because the soil below is likely still quite wet, so there's a good chance you're overwatering, which means too often not too much. Can you get a cheap moisture meter till you get watering down? They need a dry period so the roots can get oxygen, this is how they breathe.
She looks dark, which usually means too much nitrogen, I'd say you're on the cusp of overfeeding, the recommendations are usually a max dose and assume everything else is dialed in for her to use what you put in. She may not be getting enough light to use all you're giving, and if she's too wet she's also slowed down. Blurple lights are kind of obsolete at this point, but work with what you have.
Neem oil... are you still using it? If so stop, it's not for use in flower. Also, if you use too much, it can block the stomata in the leaves from functioning and prevent her from transpiring, which is exhaling water through the leaves, further slowing water use and other functions.
Is that a heater or fan? Either way it looks quite close and may be causing further stress.
 
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Another way is to wait until the pot feels extremely light almoat like its filled with styrofoam. Then water to saturate the pot and wait again
 
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So the soil is a cheap Home Depot miracle grow moisture keeping potting soil and ok I’ll scale back on water. But I only give it maybe a liter or 2 everytime so idk how much a 5 pot gallon plant is supposed to drink.this grow was definitely an experiment to see if I enjoy growing as much as smoking and I do so I’m determined to get it right next time.
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Try to avoid miracle grow or any slow release ferts in soil like the plague in future, they are not meant for cannabis and it messes with your fert program and usually ends up giving too much N at some point, which explains your very dark green leaves. A first grow is always a huge learning experience... as is each subsequent grow for a few years... I always learn new things, that's what makes it such a fun hobby.
 
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Ok thanks for all the info that is actually a tower fan. So I will definitely push it back a bit and the last time I used that neem oil was maybe a week or two ago so thanks for letting me know I need to stop using it and as far as the nutrients I will scale back on it as well. So should I flush her with pure water so I can restart the nutrient feed ?
 
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Couple things... measuring dryness to your first knuckle isn't an accurate measurement because the soil below is likely still quite wet, so there's a good chance you're overwatering, which means too often not too much. Can you get a cheap moisture meter till you get watering down? They need a dry period so the roots can get oxygen, this is how they breathe.
She looks dark, which usually means too much nitrogen, I'd say you're on the cusp of overfeeding, the recommendations are usually a max dose and assume everything else is dialed in for her to use what you put in. She may not be getting enough light to use all you're giving, and if she's too wet she's also slowed down. Blurple lights are kind of obsolete at this point, but work with what you have.
Neem oil... are you still using it? If so stop, it's not for use in flower. Also, if you use too much, it can block the stomata in the leaves from functioning and prevent her from transpiring, which is exhaling water through the leaves, further slowing water use and other functions.
Is that a heater or fan? Either way it looks quite close and may be causing further stress.
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Bang on…. Great eyes here
 
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Another way is to wait until the pot feels extremely light almoat like its filled with styrofoam. Then water to saturate the pot and wait again
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Yes this is definitely the preferred method for sure, but a meter is nice while you figure it out.
 
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I noticed this morning actually 4 gnats hanging around her . But if I cant use neem oil how do I get rid of them ?
 
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Ok so the lift test is definitely better than the knuckle test . I will definitely use that method from now on.
 
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Ok thanks for all the info that is actually a tower fan. So I will definitely push it back a bit and the last time I used that neem oil was maybe a week or two ago so thanks for letting me know I need to stop using it and as far as the nutrients I will scale back on it as well. So should I flush her with pure water so I can restart the nutrient feed ?
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feed with only water for a feed at least
 
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Gnats aren't a huge deal unless you get infested to the point they eat your roots, but yellow sticky traps in the area, diatomaceous earth sprinkled on top, and a proper dryback are how you control them. I wouldn't flush per se, but a couple rounds of plain water probably isn't a bad idea... you can't really flush out slow release ferts efficiently. I suppose spraying neem on the soil isn't terrible... but it has a taste you do not want in your bud, that's why it's not really for flower.
 
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Yes this is definitely the preferred method for sure, but a meter is nice while you figure it out.
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Absolutely
 
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I am using a soil moisture meter for the first time. It has been helpful, but I had to learn when to water based on the reading on the meter. The plants don't seem to need watering until the meter is in the middle of the "dry" end of the scale. I start thinking about watering when the meter is right between "dry" and "moist". I push the probe down as far as it will go in my 7-gallon pots. That's close to 3/4 of the way to the bottom. The soil will be more moist the farther down in the soil the probe is pushed.
 
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so these are the meters I bought to help with ph levels in my water and soil
 

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Gnats aren't a huge deal unless you get infested to the point they eat your roots, but yellow sticky traps in the area, diatomaceous earth sprinkled on top, and a proper dryback are how you control them. I wouldn't flush per se, but a couple rounds of plain water probably isn't a bad idea... you can't really flush out slow release ferts efficiently. I suppose spraying neem on the soil isn't terrible... but it has a taste you do not want in your bud, that's why it's not really for flower.
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Gnats tend to propagate in sink drains. A pot of scalding hot water poured down the drain will fix that.
 
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Ok so the lift test is definitely better than the knuckle test . I will definitely use that method from now on.
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I had succe treated them with BTI. Its a natural bacteria larvicide. Can get it in bits or other forms.use with yellow sticky pads to catch the adults


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