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nice, got any thing educational to add or no, just leave and dont grow here1 sentence...………….. Find another place to live and grow. runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
I appreciate the response, it would be a pretty hefty job to clean this attic thoroughly but its all I got for the time being.Mold can be cleaned with bleach. And then the space would require a dehumidifier to keep drying it out.
My current house had bad black mold in the basement. Its old and has porous rocks for half the foundation from the early 1900’s and old cinder blocks in the newer addition side. The floor is incomplete as well.
And its next to a lake and near lake michigan so it gets humid down there.
With proper cleaning and good properly sized dehumidifiers it stays clean and mold free. But without the help the mold will come back. I have to keep it 55% RH down there.
So it costs money to keep it healthy and safe is the long winded point i am making.
This is educational. Some times the best education we can get is the one we really didn't want to hear. There are volumes of data and reasons you 1 should never live there. And 2 don't even think of growing anything in that enviro. You are asking for nothing but headaches...……….. with the grow.nice, got any thing educational to add or no, just leave and dont grow here
JIC is right, thats active black mold/mildew in particleboard. You cant really encapsulate it, the roof leaks and needs to be replaced. That moldy sheathing requires special handling, expensive. If you are susceptible to pollen and allergies, black mold spores can kill you. The plants ?nice, got any thing educational to add or no, just leave and dont grow here
This is educational. Some times the best education we can get is the one we really didn't want to hear. There are volumes of data and reasons you 1 should never live there. And 2 don't even think of growing anything in that enviro. You are asking for nothing but headaches...……….. with the grow.
A thorough mold abatement and then decided how to better ventilate that attic space. Since you can spend lots of dinero abating but if the root cause isn't cured you will always struggle.:(
Well then ,,, with that said, with all your convos with the experts, why ask a stoner for education... lmaocertainly certainly, obviously would like to hear that it's probably alright and not a big deal but I'm really just looking for honest, EDUCATED opinions, not saying you're not educated but was hoping people would come with some facts, I have heard mold specialists say that people blow these issues out of the water and alot of the times, the person living there is only effected if they have an allergy. I'm curious to your "don't grow anything in there" because currently.... there is a sealed, climate controlled room, 4 lighter running in there right now, on drip system and looks like its gonna pull an easy 2.5 per light, i don't think the plants are affected by this
Like said above i realize now i forgot to say to fix the problem first. My house had bad leaky plumbing which we replaced most of. If the leaks were still active i would never be able to control the environment.
Yea for sure well it's kinda a tricky situation man, I'm not trying to be a wise ass about anything, I can't exactly call the home inspector over to my 4 lighter and ask them to test the air quality and send it off to a lab, well I could..but I ideally don't want the home inspector to know whats going on so that Is why I came here to ask some people. And ya.. I wish I could move right on in but my conscience is saying one thing while what pays the bills is saying another thing.... make sense? Just because we smoke weed and may consider ourselves stoners, does not mean that we do not have some extremely intellectual individuals in our scene, not everyone's a pile and a lot of people speak from actual experience which is generally the best teacher. All in all..NO i dont want to move into this place with mold but, IF it can work and I'LL be alright, then shit man thats what i'm tryin to figure out, you got a list of grow friendly landlords who don't want an arm and a leg, shit's not easy and we all aren't licensed these days.Well then ,,, with that said, with all your convos with the experts, why ask a stoner for education... lmao
Move right on in. And in my defense you didn't say anything about a successful grow going on there already. Thought from your wording you were prospecting. My 1st concern was for your families health. Then the grows success.
I have my own experts I listen to and its called common sense. I wouldn't live in that place if you paid me to.
That particle board needs to be removed to properly remediate. You wont be able to just wash that off. To remediate it improperly you could soak everything in bleach and then fumigate heavily with sulphur vapour. But the mold will still be there deep in the sheathing and come back unless you correct the cause either with dehumidifyers or ventilation, and possibly stopping any leaks.
To be fair this is the homeowners responsibility not the tenants. Is your buddy the homeowner? And I'm curious, does the grow space vent into the attic?
As for the question of what I would do... I'm with jumpincactus, I'd look for somewhere else.
Thats a nightmare and the only way to mitigate is rip it out,please dont live there if you have children.
Was your buddy growing there and exhausting into the attic?I had renters that did that and it cost me 15gs without labor to rip off the decking,reroof and replace moldy drywall.They will redtag a house like that if they see it around here.
Question 413, how long has your friend lived there and does he cough a lot?
You have a serious issue with your home. The attic is condensating so bad the particle board is wet. Most likely if you are growing up there you are increasing the problem. If you look closely at the particle board seam in your pic it is sagging from the weight of the roof. This is a serious issue you need to fix as soon as possible. In your picture the 2x6s look like they actually have moisture bleeding down them from the plywood this is absolutely bad. If you are going up there for long periods of time I would suggest you wear some type of breathing apparatus around 100100 NIOSH wich is designed for organic vapors. If you look very closely at the upper rite 2x6 you’ll see a very dark brown almost black streak coming from the top of the 2x6 that is caused from the 15 pound felt that is a vapor barrier under the asphalt shingles. Most likely the roof is leaking basically from the bottom vapor Barrier being wet from the extreme amount of humidity that is being introduced in your attic. The white mold is not all that bad but the black mold is a hole different subject that I’m not even going to get into. If you are a healthy individual and want to stay that way I would stay the fuck out of there. I’m not talking out my ass bro, I’m a 23 year journeyman roofer. I’ve been in many attics seen a lot of bad shit over the years yours is by far the worst I’ve seen in a very long time. If your a renter ide get the fuck out of there if your landlord finds out you are the cause of the problem he’s gona nail you in the wallet so hard your head will spin. If you own the place for God’s sake man fix it for your family and your health. Mold in that condition is nothing to fuck with it’s a slow killer that takes time to destroy your body.Here's an image in the attic, there is more mold between other rafters not pictured, the white stuff is insulation and beneath that is a bedroom.
We are in Colorado. Warm air has been rising up from the house into the attic, meeting the cold air, causing condensation and eventually mold.
The house is pretty poorly built, very thin walls, I'm just tryin to decide if I carry on here.. I dont plan to buy the place, just rent for a year or two. The pickle is that..its not easy to find another space, this one is already built out and ready to go, however..cancer or any long term health effects..juice isn't worth the squeeze, problem is that I'm not qualified to say "this is fine" or "this is a big deal, you shouldn't live here", hoping someone out there might be more well versed.
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