Hid Vs Led - Best Thing I Have Ever Seen

[Freshone]

Damn, that's crazy. I wish my 1000W HPS bill was $50 per month. My bill went up $250. Sticker shock to say the least. I'm considering QB or COB because of it. I haven't made up my mind yet of the two.

Yeah i dont think people realize that the region you live in affects you as a grower in so many ways from electrical cost to different environmental issues to the value of your product itself.

 

[Buzzer777]

Yeah i dont think people realize that the region you live in affects you as a grower in so many ways from electrical cost to different environmental issues to the value of your product itself.

Here's a good tool that I use to figure costs:

http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/yor/lightrescostadvan.htm

 

[Phylex]

Yeah i dont think people realize that the region you live in affects you as a grower in so many ways from electrical cost to different environmental issues to the value of your product itself.

True Story

 

[3 balls]

Here's a good tool that I use to figure costs:

http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/yor/lightrescostadvan.htm

That calculator is awesome, I added to my favorites. What really jumped out to me was I'm not estimating nearly enough for AC. In other words, I thought my lights were about 90% of my consumption but it's closer to 70%. Of course there's the inline fans, dehue's and carbon filter scrubbers as well but AC is a monster. Any calculators for that?

 

[Buzzer777]

That calculator is awesome, I added to my favorites. What really jumped out to me was I'm not estimating nearly enough for AC. In other words, I thought my lights were about 90% of my consumption but it's closer to 70%. Of course there's the inline fans, dehue's and carbon filter scrubbers as well but AC is a monster. Any calculators for that?

Nothing that I have seen.

 

[cemchris]

I was going to just say that as well. I’ll take any 315 s anyone is selling cheap all day long

I was coming in here to say the exact same thing. Haha. All of them.

 

[bigdaddyg8]

You just made me look up photon boards, kinda cool. I love seeing all the good LED tech out there!

How many 315s would you like?I think i have 7 or 8 still sitting in the shed next to the gavitas!I can ship,lol.

do you have gavita 1650e LED?

 

[FutureGrower]

do you have gavita 1650e LED?

No and even if I was a millionaire I wouldn't. You have to stand for something and the people who own Gavita I disagree with. But all respect and love to those who feel otherwise.

I am super curious to see how they perform however

 

[Buzzer777]

No and even if I was a millionaire I wouldn't. You have to stand for something and the people who own Gavita I disagree with. But all respect and love to those who feel otherwise.

I am super curious to see how they perform however

Yeah.....Just like the Owner of Fox Farm did....Monsanto SUX!

 

[FutureGrower]

Yeah.....Just like the Owner of Fox Farm did....Monsanto SUX!

Man I didnt even know about fox farms. They're no dummies they know where the money is unfortunately. I just hope they don't impact us like they did traditional ag. Guess that's what grow your own means.

I've never used fox farms either so that's good atleast lol

 

[Buzzer777]

Man I didnt even know about fox farms. They're no dummies they know where the money is unfortunately. I just hope they don't impact us like they did traditional ag. Guess that's what grow your own means.

I've never used fox farms either so that's good atleast lol

No..FF DID NOT..In fact they published a letter saying they stopped dealing with a certain huge company when it was bought out.

 

[Dan789]

That calculator is awesome, I added to my favorites. What really jumped out to me was I'm not estimating nearly enough for AC. In other words, I thought my lights were about 90% of my consumption but it's closer to 70%. Of course there's the inline fans, dehue's and carbon filter scrubbers as well but AC is a monster. Any calculators for that?

Regarding A/C power usage, that’s a big variable and you’d have to know what it draws, guess how long and how many times it comes on during one hour, then extrapolate that into hours per day. I use “excel” where I just plug in all the various loads, hours per day, multiplied by the lengths of my veg and bloom phases.
As I also pay higher utilities to live in California, I also adopted solar PV for the roof. I got tired of the rates going up every year, prior to growing we averaged (averaged for entire year, instead of getting a few months when it was 100 degrees out and $600+ electric bills during those months) $200-$250/month, then the rates started moving up as the utilities latched onto the concept of raising rates to curtail use. We’ve now got “peak” partial peak and off peak rates, which used to be during high solar production, but they’ve been moving those around too, always move and counter move. Last few years our solar has zeroed out our electrical use during the whole year, that’s the future...

 

[FutureGrower]

No..FF DID NOT..In fact they published a letter saying they stopped dealing with a certain huge company when it was bought out.

Oh I see what you mean! I'm gonna go grab some bags next time I see them just for that! I dont even need it just the principal. I could use in my backyard I guess lol

 

[FutureGrower]

Man I didnt even know about fox farms. They're no dummies they know where the money is unfortunately. I just hope they don't impact us like they did traditional ag. Guess that's what grow your own means.

I've never used fox farms either so that's good atleast lol

Can a moderator please delete this misinformation by me please @sixstring maybe?

 

[MidwestToker]

Kilo from 530 wall watts. 1.8 gpw

 

[Dan789]

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Nice fade going on.

 

[DapperDon]

How many 315s would you like?I think i have 7 or 8 still sitting in the shed next to the gavitas!I can ship,lol.

Mind if I ask why you ditched the Gavita's?

 

[Dirtbag]

It's funny, I know LED is popular and more efficient and has specific spectrums and high PAR blah blah... But I'm still not convinced enough that it's worth switching from MH/HPS..

Sure HID wastes power and isnt nearly as efficient in PAR output/wattage. But the bud I grow is seriously top shelf with it. Ive used 250, 400, 430, 600, 1000watts, and none of them compare to 1000 watt eye hortilux, except for DE-HID which are in a class of their own. And CMH do very well in small spaces.
MH and HPS just reliably grows Huge hard buds covered in crystal all the way down through a 24" deep canopy.

Maybe I'm just an old dog stuck in his ways. If it ain't broke...

 

[DapperDon]

It's funny, I know LED is popular and more efficient and has specific spectrums and high PAR blah blah... But I'm still not convinced enough that it's worth switching from MH/HPS..

Sure HID wastes power and isnt nearly as efficient in PAR output/wattage. But the bud I grow is seriously top shelf with it. Ive used 250, 400, 430, 600, 1000watts, and none of them compare to 1000 watt eye hortilux, except for DE-HID which are in a class of their own. And CMH do very well in small spaces.
MH and HPS just reliably grows Huge hard buds covered in crystal all the way down through a 24" deep canopy.

Maybe I'm just an old dog stuck in his ways. If it ain't broke...

Can you share what you think of as the biggest difference between HID and CMH?

 

[Dirtbag]

Mind if I ask why you ditched the Gavita's?

I cant speak for freshone, but my buddies moved away from them once they realized they are too damn intense and hot for most indoor setups. You need high ceilings and excellent environmental control and even then they run hot,, throw deadly hotspots when hung horizontally.. They're just overkill. They're meant for hanging like 6-8 feet over top of the canopy of greenhouse crops for supplemental light.

I've watched so many people blow money on new fangled lighting setups over the last long while, meanwhile I'm over here using basically the same lamp tech I was in 1998 lol. HID ftw!!