I should have specified using myco in a good soil. All my healthy plants develop myco with no inoculation. I think I posted a pic here of it. That goes for all the micro life. If the conditions are right they appear naturally.
My side by sides were with pre inoculated soil (
happy frog, pro mix and potters gold) and ocean forest which just has more organic matter than
happy frog but no inoculation.
What medium did you do your side by sides in? Neutral mediums would be different I think. But I have not done full hydro. Only a hybrid soil grow.
Also I meant different rooms and Growers. I am not arguing that you personally would see a difference in an established cut. Especially one you have dialed in.
But it could grow differently in my room with me growing it.
Other than that I agree with what you said.
And I have been growing a perpetual garden with a harvest every week to 10 days for four years now. And I spent about 4 years studying and 2 working with my first caregiver before I started my own garden.
I also have a long history working with big Growers since 1983. But I never grew myself then.
I use just nutrients and just nutrients with silica as my first controls. I have to prove the product is actually something other than whatever salt is making its npk. This would be in peat, coco, and dwc. Now i don't do as much anymore. The last hot product i did a side by side of was terpinator with
dynagro grow. I normally run some combination of lights and mediums so i tend to test right away in peat and coco multiple times. Usually i would at least 6 plants per test, with varying dosages if required. This isn't a perfect setup for this but i tend to repeat results that aren't clear cut and trust the results i got/get within reason. I mean you have to worry about product consistency and a million other variables so yeah, I'm sure something could sneak by but the shit that works tends to be noticeable. Hard too is judging final product. I will say Im harsh on products that i think might have worked but can't prove. A lot of people's sworn by products fall under these. But, back to your post a bit, i have to test without inoculated mediums and such because they also lie about the products ingredients or could be. I will say this; If you use silica, kelp, humic, and any sugar from molasses to straight glucose, 80% of these products are only effective by those ingredients, mostly kelp. Everything has kelp. I don't think I'd notice almost any if i just tested them on regular finishers. Anyways, the ingredients list of these is all from the same list nowadays. Amino acids, b1, kelp, humic, fulvic,
yucca, microbes, sugars, silica, all b vitamins, fish emulsion, whey powder, yeast extract, any random plant extracts from cranberry to birch trees, different forms of potassium and phosphorous, ascorbic acid, citric acid, chitin or chitinase, enzymes, polysaccarhides, any common or uncommon hormones, any known pgrs like bap6, tria, etc. That's what i came up with quick but
big bud,
liquid karma, all the gh supplements, all the
foxfarm supplements, thrive alive, golden tree, and pretty much every other booster comes from that list. I've tested about 75% of those as best i could get an isolate and have some sitting around still. One day, ill finish but most aren't very exciting regardless of all the hype. I've done terpinator, canna boost, resinator, recharge,
liquid karma, almost all the advanced stuff, all the original us canna stuff, all the common gh and
botanicare stuff, and of all of those resinator was the only one that really got my attention but not necessarily in a good way, It just sped up flowering on 9 different cuts by at least a week. My 8 week granola cut i cut at 44 but it was done at 40 just didn't feel right. I'm out of bud now so that'll end it, back to reality for a bit.