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Hey guys so I wanted to start a thread on this grow for awhile now and finally got around to taking some pics. So I only have one plant right now because my other seeds didn't germinate and I'm moving places in about a month. But I already have a 4x4 tent with a 600 watt cooltube and a 4x2 tent for ves and the 400.. so I'm currently using advanced.nutrients, bud candy, molasses, calmag and.purple maxx. So leave some.comments or thoughts on Wut u think.. here's some.pics
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Come on guys leave some love over here and any advice
 
is that the only plant under the light?

go to home depot and buy a 2' 4 bulb t5 or something. that plant is too small, and the return will not be beneficial. it would be easier and wayyyy cheaper to just buy a quarter of weed. My very honest opinion.

you'll spend 3x the amount you could make in electricity alone... if thats the sole plant, a 600 can light up a TON of space, you need to get more in there or downsize the light

and once again, all my advice take it with a grain of salt, but stop wasting money on Advanced nutrients, particularly bud candy. what a fucking rip off, and make all your weed taste exactly the same.

use molasses, about a hundred times cheaper, and way better. that shit is watered down and overpriced more than crack.
 
I'm using a.400 watt right now. I said I also have a.600 I'm not using right now. When I started this grow I had.3 plants and 2 turned male on me. But as for the nutrients.I bout advanced( not the whole line by anymeans) but I was told at the time they were the best. I have gotten great results but I won't spend that much money on them again. I plan on trying botanicare nutes next.grow in about a month when I move. And my 400 uses about 10 a.month it's not breaking the bank
 
So I was having major issues with humidity.. sometimes it was at 0. But I just put a 5gallon bucket it ther closet. Filled it with water and put an airstone hooked up to a pump. Now it's.perfect. stays right around 40rh. I'm stoked :)
 
w a super small grow go to walgreen and buy one of those 15$ humidifiers that you take a water bottle and screw into. that should be perfect for that girl
 
what day are those pictures from from seed? cause i got an ultraviolet that looks almost identical with more branching and a bit less stretch on the main cola. mine's on day...50 now? and it's an auto, classic remix. it couldnt get any bigger if it tried. :P
and i agree on bud candy.
and AN in general, although i've had some decent results when you dont pound them with it, taste included, im using PBP atm myself. switching to canna nutes later on as i'm using canna/b'cuzz coco(s)
 
Day 38 from seed todas. Heres some pics
 

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Smelling so bomb fruity but not nike a sativa, I can't wait to harvest
 
bstil, you have some serious nutrient burn going on. A few questions before I can make any comments.

What soil are you in?
What is your feeding schedule? Are you feeding every time you water or are you alternating between nutrients and plain water?
What are your ratios of each nutrient or additive?
What type of water are you using, tap or RO?
Who told you AN was the best? They guy at they hydro store?
What is your experience with growing anything?
What is your ventilation situation like?
Do you have a circulation fan in that space?
What are your temps running at?
How did you manage to get the RH in your space down to 0? I have never seen an RH of 0.

I will agree with Classic Remix, you are wasting your money and electricity on one plant that small under a 400w light. You definitely should think about a T-5 unit for such a small grow. If you can fill a 3x3 area with plants a 600w light is worth it, but for one plant even that 400 is just too much. However if you do invest in a T-5 unit do NOT buy it from Home Depot (sorry Remix). The T-5's sold at Home Depot are standard T-5 units and while they are good for us to see they do nothing for plants past the seedling stage. Buy the T-5 unit from a hydro shop. The T-5 units there are high output T-5's, they are designed for horticultural purposes. They will offer much better penetration and a higher quality light compared to the Home Depot T-5 units.
 
First off there are no hydro stores where I live so I have to purchase everything online. My soil is Fox farm ocean forrest from a nursery out here thai was retarded expensive as i use to get the big bugs for 10 bucks when I Lived in Cali. I feed nutrients 2x when plan water 1x all RO water. My temps here are awesome 72-76. I have a circulating fan blowing on plant, exhaust fan, and mall intake fan. Im using 10ml AN bloom, 7ml AN micro, 8ml AN Bud Candy, 5ml of cal/mag, and just started 2ml of gravity. This is all per gallon. Ph is 6.0.
My AN is pretty old too. Ive grown at least 10 crops but am no expert. I have grown some really dank tho using these nutes so maybe This plant is more sensitive to nutes than other strains ive grown. As for the t-5 I don't see a point now because I would have to wait 2 wait for it to ship. I did have a 125 wait cfl but the bulb cracked when I moved. I read alot of people saying how good AN was online so I tried it and have gotten really good results before but I wont spend that much money on nutes ever again. Thanks for commenting Smoking Gun and I would like more advice if u have any. Thanks
 
Definitely drop the AN, there are much better nutrients out there. However just because the price tag is high does not always mean the product is not worth it. Rock nutrients are a bit on the expensive side, but there are a max of 5 bottles to buy you can really run with only 4 of the bottles as one is a foliar. I have seen some incredible results using the Rock gear, and it leaves very little residual salts. Rock is an Australian brand and the Australian requirements on nutrients is more stringent than we have here is the States, so if you are not looking to go organic the Australian made nutes are a good place to start. What nutes did you use before AN?

As you had mentioned Botanicare also makes a very solid line of nutrients. If you are looking to go Organic Bio Bizz is one option, there is a lot of good buzz around their products at the moment and their line is not particularly extensive. I have no personal experience with Bio Bizz so I cannot speak to its efficacy from personal experience. I have had great success with Roots Organic as well. They put out their full line about 5 plus years ago and have not changed a thing since. The consistency speaks volumes to me about its quality.

However with your current set-up I think a schedule of feed, feed, water may be too much. The excess nutrient salts (which AN leaves behind tons) are building up in your soil and may be the cause of your leaf burn. I would back off nutrients for a few days and when you return go much lighter with the nutes.

Its definitely rough having to order everything online. I am not sure where you live, but i am sure there is some kind of garden center near you; go over there and see what products they carry. These days more of the standard garden centers are carrying gear for indoor use. This may be your best option for finding what you need.

While it may not be necessary now to have the T-5 it may be of great use in the future. The units are not prohibitively expensive so they are a worthwhile investment. When you say you have a 125 watt CFL does that mean a 125 watt equivalent or a CFL that runs on 125 watts. The "equivalency" that they label CFL's with are only in comparison to and incandescent light bulb and even then the number is totally bogus. If you have the gear for a proper 125 watt CFL I would just replace that bulb instead of buying a new T-5 unit.

In the future I would wait considerably longer before flowering out your plants, for so much space that plant is tiny. It seems like you knew you had time constraints and that may be the reason you began flowering so small, so you may already be aware of this.
 
Thanks smokin Gun ill look into those nutrients. And ya ill give it a good flush. And I did not flower early This is an auto plant which literally started preflowering 2 wk from seed so ya not My fault lol. But i gonna give it a good flush and take it easy on the nutes. Ive used Fox farm in the past and.first started with general hydroponics which really.have salt build up. And ya.I had a.real 125 watt cfl and.a.200 watt before that. There pretty big. I will get another for veg in the future. I will be moving soon and will be using a 4x4 tent next so I had a question. Will My 600 be enough light in there or should i put the 400 watt in there to and maybe use ir as dual spectrum?
 
Cool Thanks for your opinion bro has he has finished crops before with that setup and if so Wut did he yeild
 
he did one run through with a local "early" strain that was killer. but it had a major...can't remember if it was mg or Iron def but it slowed growth and he lost some canopy coverage right when they were bulking and still managed to end up with about 400-450g. and it was in a different environment at the time. i'm sure he could pump next to if not right around 1g per watt with it.
 
Thats super legit how many plants was he running. If I can get a p ill be happy
 
I know you said you have a 4x4 for flower and a 2x4 for veg. The 4x4 can absolutely handle the 600 and the 400, and it would give you the flexibility to run an HPS and an MH or two HPS. However if you are going to have 1000 watts of light in the flowering tent I would recommend have at least 400 watts of light in the veg tent. Or you could get away with a 4 foot 4 bulb T-5 unit with additional single bulb T-5 units as side lighting, and that would be a way to keep the used wattage down without sacrificing coverage. The 125 watt CFL really would not be sufficient enough to harden the plants off before moving into the flowering tent with such intense light. In fact I would recommend at least upgrading to a 200 watt CFL before going under a 600 watt HPS. If you do choose to use only the 600w I would personally keep my canopy roughly 3x3, giving some breathing/working room around the edges of the garden. Plant count is somewhat irrelevant; if you are filling a 3x3 canopy under 600 watt HPS with 9 plants or 50 plants you will produce relatively equal quantities. What changes is plant size before flowering, which ultimately means veg time is longer.
 
Ya i know i wish I would have just bought the 1000 instead of the 600 but ultimately I just want good Bud so ill have to see Wut I can Oxford. How much do those 4 foot 4 bulb t5s go for?
 
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