Using the water in a pool to cool your growroom

[washburn4life]

So I just bought a 12,000 gallon pool and I plan on running a 3 ton water cooled A/C for a 8KW air cooled sealed room w/ CO2 gen. and a second 15KW air cooled sealed room with a 5 ton water cooled A/C unit and water cooled CO2 gen

I plan on running a loop system with one pipe coming out of the pool and teeing off to individual pumps for each unit and discharging all the water into one pipe and letting it spray into the pool. spraying water into the air and letting it fall would help cool the water.

I plan on having a RO waste water running into the pool all day long

I will treat the water with pool chemicals

I plan on using the pool and see this as a dual benifit with a cheaper way to cool your grow room and a heated pool posibaly year round

has any one ever done somthing similar, Am I crazy or will this work?

I might need a plumers help espicaly for the pipe and pump size

 

[washburn4life]

 

[washburn4life]

sorry for it being so shitty but hope it helps you understand what im doing

 

[squiggly]

The pool chemicals are the main thing I'd worry about. Typically chemicals can be corrosive to metal--so you'll want to do your due diligence to research there. There might be some ways you can avoid corrosion like incorporating some type of cathodic protection (IE a sacrificial anode--like in water heaters).

What will be difficult there is either finding one large enough for the whole pool or placing them in the proper places throughout your system.

I run a water cooled computer with a copper blocked GPU and use a tiny sacrificial anode to keep corrosion out (in addition to using a silver loop for anti-bacterial properties and using very pure water).

 

[HookedonPonics]

My buddy used to do this for two 8kw rooms but was plumbed to a lake not a pool and his room was always cool. I remember being extremely jealous I wasnt near a body of water. Im no professional but id say the size you would need your pool to be would depend a lot on your local climate. Id contact the guys over at hydro innovations there the guys with alot of the know how in the water cooled industry. Im sure theyd have a legit way to calculate if itd work good. Hope that helps

 

[washburn4life]

The pool chemicals are the main thing I'd worry about. Typically chemicals can be corrosive to metal--so you'll want to do your due diligence to research there. There might be some ways you can avoid corrosion like incorporating some type of cathodic protection (IE a sacrificial anode--like in water heaters).

What will be difficult there is either finding one large enough for the whole pool or placing them in the proper places throughout your system.

I run a water cooled computer with a copper blocked GPU and use a tiny sacrificial anode to keep corrosion out (in addition to using a silver loop for anti-bacterial properties and using very pure water).

I would use pvc pipe and use pool chemicals in the water system clorine and ph balancer mildue killer and stuff. I know you need to treat the water for the system to work

the ony corosion i would think there would be would be on the heat exchangers on the gen and the air handaler and they would be fine for sevral years before they might need to be replaced, easily paid for itself.

cathodic protection lost me there

sacrificial anode lost me there

 

[washburn4life]

My buddy used to do this for two 8kw rooms but was plumbed to a lake not a pool and his room was always cool. I remember being extremely jealous I wasnt near a body of water. Im no professional but id say the size you would need your pool to be would depend a lot on your local climate. Id contact the guys over at hydro innovations there the guys with alot of the know how in the water cooled industry. Im sure theyd have a legit way to calculate if itd work good. Hope that helps

I have consitered this but havent yet maybe I will try them

 

[washburn4life]

I found this online

http://www.dcsarabia.com/whitepapers/48.pdf
page 7 and 8

I just sent Hydro Inovation a email see what they shout back

 

[squiggly]

cathodic protection lost me there

sacrificial anode lost me there

A sacrificial anode is a type of cathodic protection.

cathode and anode are opposite ends of a "battery" (negative and positive respectively--usually), commonly referred to as electrodes.

Typically when metals corrode they are acting as an anode. Cathodic protection is a way of protecting those metals by making them act as the cathode of an electrochemical cell instead of the anode.

This is done by connecting a sacrificial metal which corrodes more easily to the metal one wants to protect. The sacrificial metal is the sacrificial anode--and it corrodes first. The result is to reverse the polarity of the electrochemical cell which, in its natural state, would've caused corrosion.

Just wiki "cathodic protection" and it describes it pretty well.

 

[washburn4life]

ok like zink plates on a boat right good idea thank you didnt think about going at it that way

 

[squiggly]

ok like zink plates on a boat right good idea thank you didnt think about going at it that way

Yes exactly.

 

[CannabisJohn]

So I just bought a 12,000 gallon pool and I plan on running a 3 ton water cooled A/C for a 8KW air cooled sealed room w/ CO2 gen. and a second 15KW air cooled sealed room with a 5 ton water cooled A/C unit and water cooled CO2 gen

I plan on running a loop system with one pipe coming out of the pool and teeing off to individual pumps for each unit and discharging all the water into one pipe and letting it spray into the pool. spraying water into the air and letting it fall would help cool the water.

I plan on having a RO waste water running into the pool all day long

I will treat the water with pool chemicals

I plan on using the pool and see this as a dual benifit with a cheaper way to cool your grow room and a heated pool posibaly year round

has any one ever done somthing similar, Am I crazy or will this work?

I might need a plumers help espicaly for the pipe and pump size

For every hour both air conditioners run you will raise your pool temperature about 1 degree or so. So if you do this for 12 hrs a day can your pool dissipate 12 degrees a day? I assumed that your units will run full time when lights are on. I maybe a little high on that but I would estimate at least 7-8 degree temperature rise each day. Also if you do this make sure your units have a head pressure control valve if your pool gets below 65F.

 

[washburn4life]

For every hour both air conditioners run you will raise your pool temperature about 1 degree or so. So if you do this for 12 hrs a day can your pool dissipate 12 degrees a day? I assumed that your units will run full time when lights are on. I maybe a little high on that but I would estimate at least 7-8 degree temperature rise each day. Also if you do this make sure your units have a head pressure control valve if your pool gets below 65F.

I have thought about this and think a cooling tower might be in order I heard they make them like 3' x 3' x 5' that might work or a chiller...

Im ready to start installing the piping and the pool next weekend I would like some recomendations on the hvac units, pipe size, pump size,

 

[Ohiofarmer]

I would use pvc pipe and use pool chemicals in the water system clorine and ph balancer mildue killer and stuff. I know you need to treat the water for the system to work

the ony corosion i would think there would be would be on the heat exchangers on the gen and the air handaler and they would be fine for sevral years before they might need to be replaced, easily paid for itself.

cathodic protection lost me there

sacrificial anode lost me there

This is a genius idea man!, just use pvc fuck squiggs scraficial bullshit, you could also use pex and in a sense cool the entire room via just the tubing and a few fans; i'd have a blueprint for the ideas drawn up then call in a plumber to install it.........this is the best idea i've heard in quite a while.....take it easy

 

[Ohiofarmer]

The pool chemicals are the main thing I'd worry about. Typically chemicals can be corrosive to metal--so you'll want to do your due diligence to research there. There might be some ways you can avoid corrosion like incorporating some type of cathodic protection (IE a sacrificial anode--like in water heaters).

What will be difficult there is either finding one large enough for the whole pool or placing them in the proper places throughout your system.

I run a water cooled computer with a copper blocked GPU and use a tiny sacrificial anode to keep corrosion out (in addition to using a silver loop for anti-bacterial properties and using very pure water).

This makes absolutly zero sense at all......why not use pvc or pex to start with and not have to worry about all that bullshit, not to mention pex is more water tight 30 times easier to install and tranfers temperature much more effectivelly, no to mention the fact that it's 1/80th of the cost that your talkin about....??? ^^^all of that is just ridiculous........Also There are currently no water cooled computers on the commercial market, so did you build this computer yourself? and if you did can i see it!?:D Liquid cooled electronics are all cooled by freon filled heat exchange tubes....................not water.............the idea of cooling a computer using water is so utterly ridiculous :facepalm::facepalm:............Take it easy

 

[Ohiofarmer]

I have thought about this and think a cooling tower might be in order I heard they make them like 3' x 3' x 5' that might work or a chiller...

Im ready to start installing the piping and the pool next weekend I would like some recomendations on the hvac units, pipe size, pump size,

I'd just use a couple chillers, then match up size requirements to that. How big is your room and how much power you gonna be using?.....take it easy

 

[Texas Kid]

The Hydro Innovation guys have a setup specifically for using large volume pools or swimming pools...at least they used to...there were few people doin full on water cooled hoods, co2 generators, ballast, and hoods back in the early days of their company

 

[squiggly]

This is a genius idea man!, just use pvc fuck squiggs scraficial bullshit, you could also use pex and in a sense cool the entire room via just the tubing and a few fans; i'd have a blueprint for the ideas drawn up then call in a plumber to install it.........this is the best idea i've heard in quite a while.....take it easy

Unless you've invented a pvc heat exchanger or radiator, my "sacrificial bullshit" is the only way to protect against corrosion. This idea sounds super awesome until pool water starts pouring into your lighting apparatus and grow room.

 

[squiggly]

This makes absolutly zero sense at all......why not use pvc or pex to start with and not have to worry about all that bullshit, not to mention pex is more water tight 30 times easier to install and tranfers temperature much more effectivelly, no to mention the fact that it's 1/80th of the cost that your talkin about....??? ^^^all of that is just ridiculous........Also There are currently no water cooled computers on the commercial market, so did you build this computer yourself? and if you did can i see it!?:D Liquid cooled electronics are all cooled by freon filled heat exchange tubes....................not water.............the idea of cooling a computer using water is so utterly ridiculous :facepalm::facepalm:............Take it easy

Okay first of all, you're wrong--about everything you said. Literally every single thing.

1. Again the problem is that typically heat exchangers are built with metal. If the dude is buying a system that's already set up for light with PEX or if he's building his own hoods, then that's fine--but that's not the assumption I was working under.

2. As far as water cooled computers, you are extremely wrong about this. Yes I did build the computer myself, but that doesn't matter. Yes you can see it--it's in a weird position so I''ll have to pull it out and snap some photos later. I'll say it again for effect--you are wrong about water cooled PCs there are thousands of them in households all over America and so far as I know not a single one of them is cooled with freon of all things. People have been water cooling PCs for over 10 years. They even have big competitions for people who do it to see who can push their rig the most.


Allow me to introduce you to one of 100s of websites where you can purchase parts to water cool a PC with:

http://www.frozencpu.com/

3. Why so hostile?

 

[Ohiofarmer]

Okay first of all, you're wrong--about everything you said. Literally every single thing.

1. Again the problem is that typically heat exchangers are built with metal. If the dude is buying a system that's already set up for light with PEX or if he's building his own hoods, then that's fine--but that's not the assumption I was working under.

2. As far as water cooled computers, you are extremely wrong about this. Yes I did build the computer myself, but that doesn't matter. Yes you can see it--it's in a weird position so I''ll have to pull it out and snap some photos later. I'll say it again for effect--you are wrong about water cooled PCs there are thousands of them in households all over America and so far as I know not a single one of them is cooled with freon of all things. People have been water cooling PCs for over 10 years. They even have big competitions for people who do it to see who can push their rig the most.


Allow me to introduce you to one of 100s of websites where you can purchase parts to water cool a PC with:

http://www.frozencpu.com/

3. Why so hostile?

no hostility squiggs, but at some point you gotta use some logic in what you say brotha, i mean common man. I'm simply stating that to go through what you were talkin about is pretty ludacris logically if somone where to build a pool cooler; i'm slightly hostile about the computers though....I as well as over 6 of my close friends all have liquid cooled computers; some of my friend have multiple dedicated servers and host massive amounts of content, as well as running several actaul monitors each with windows, linux or mac operating systems running seperatly simultaneously......I don't claim to know or be formally educated on computer and server know how, but out of all 6 of them that have computer related degrees, none of them could take seriosly the idea of cooling a computer with water; it just isn't a logical idea, if you see how computers are cooled..........it just makes no sense at all......why cool something with water when you can cool it with freon.......which by the way all 7 of our computers liquid cooling systems use freon as the cooling liquid.....not a single one uses water.....they don't even use water to cool super-computers for shit sakes; so to me it is absurd to say somone would cool a computer with water rather then freon.....again thats just not logical.......After doing some research I see where you came up with water cooled pcs........Indeed people actaully use to be stupid enough to cool their pcs with water, if you research you see why they no longer sell water cooling elements but rather liquid cooled.......Just to bring you up to speed if your gonna use liquid cooled computer components then for your sake please use freon.....Water is just completely ill-logical....but indeed people use to use it. So sorry that i doubted you squiggs.......And the parts on those websites are for liquid cooling.....not water cooling, liquid...like pressurized freon.... Sorry for bustin your balls squiggs; hope you've been feeling better........Now let me introduce you to the most popular, highest selling, freon cooled desktop computer thats has literally owned the market for the last 8 years http://www.dell.com/ed/p/alienware-area51-alx/pd ...........:D.......take it easy squiggs