Six signs of a SUPER HEALTHY marijuana plant:

[Shamus]

CR ur a POS, idk where u get off calling someone's advice retarded.
Also to add to the happy list.

~no red stems on leaves (unless genetic)

 

[Classic Remix]

Because it is incorrect.


For example, is a re vegged plant "unhealthy"? It would have less leaves.

Misinformation.

 

[DO IT]

I'm with CR on this 1.... If a leaf blade count was an indication of health the plant should keep growing more "Fingers" the older it got. I think the best indication of health in a plant is leaf color and angle. The genetics of a plant are. Going to dictate the number of blades on a leaf. When I get a chance I will post some pic's.

 

[MtGrownCanna]

I would like to say that most of what you are pointing out doesn't have that much to do with only the health of the plant. There are many other factors besides the health of a plant. Take two very healthy people for example. One has a predisposition for full hair, the other is going bald by high school. Can you really look at the two people and tell me which one is in better health? Hell no! Why is it we always here of the super healthy triathlete who dropped dead of a heart attack? He looked so healthy on the outside.

Nowhere in your list did you mention one of the most important signs of plant health......the stem color. If the stems are green, the plant is up taking nutrients. When the stems start to get discolorations like purple or red striping, the plant is not absorbing the necessary nutrients and therefor is not healthy.

The number of blades on a leaf has nothing to do with health. Sativas have narrow blades, allowing more blades per leaf. Indicas have fat overlapping leaves, usually around 9. Some of my most vigorous indica cuts only have 7 blades. Most plants we grow these days are a mix of both indica and sativa, meaning any number of blades can show up on a leaf, in varying lengths and widths.

Not all plants grow fast just because they're healthy. I have a few very slow veging crosses that like to take their time in veg, but turn into monsters in the bud room. Plants grow at different speeds, depending on the grow medium, light source, available co2, humidity, and nutrients. If you grow organic, your plants will grow slower than DWC with mad chemicals. Hydro and CO2 cause super fast growth.....that doesn't mean the organic plants are any less healthy.

Side branching fans will only have 7 blades if the plant is aloud to grow to a certain size. This can be said about most mj plants. It's a lighting thing. If you grow a plant under a 40watt t8, your fans may only have 5 blades and your buds will be small and airy. Under a 1000w MH, the same plant may have 9 blades and yield 5 times as much, simply because there is more light. Less light does not mean less healthy....it means less photosynthesis leading to less growth. A plant grows in direct relation to its environment.

 

[Skunkmasterflex]

Iv came across a few strains over the years that grow redish colored stalks. They will never be fully green though veg or bloom. Number of blades doesnt indicate health though, if your plant throws out only 1 blade leafs every time and is say like 3+ feet tall there is probably something going on.

Like stated above....if your plants are growing at a constant rate and seem to be uptaking nutes then you most likely have a decently healthy plant.

couple things that are for sure are....
Yellowing is not good....usually a nitrogen or under feed problem (sometimes a ph problem)
Burnt leaves.....usually an over feed problem (some cases can be deficiency)
Drooping plant.....under watered or over watered (you can tell pretty simple by feeling soil)
Coloring in stalk....if the strain typically always is green and is purpling or coloring

Other problems obvious exist like bugs and mildew and what not but those listed above are what I find to be most common in peoples gardens and my own as well.

I dont thi k calling someone a retard for mis information is decent. Thick skin or not its just silly. Its a canna site, not the streets of the ghetto where we all need to pack heat or we are gonna get touched up guys....

We need to correct information if its wrong and help eachother help ourselves out :)

Take a minute to help out fellow farmers.....if not whats really the point to all this. We could just grow our buds and not even sign In.

Hope everyone is having an awesome relaxing monday :) much love guys ~smf~

 

[MtGrownCanna]

Agreed. Name calling is never appreciated. It's one thing to respectfully disprove someone's thoughts on a subject.

Not agreed.... I've never had a plant with reddish/purplish striping on the stalk I wasn't able to turn back to green by feeding properly. What strains have you grown out that do this? When you say you've grown out plants with reddish stems, what do mean by that? Was the general hue reddish or were there red stripes on a green stem? I get how some plants have darker pigmentation, but red or purple striping is almost always a lack of phosphate. If one uses the same nutrients on many different plants, one is bound to find a plant that has red stems, not because of variation in pigments, but variation in how much P the plant is using, IMO. Clones tend to do this because they use internally stored P to build roots. Once the clone gets a little older, this purpling goes away because the roots are now absorbing extraneous nutrients from the grow medium. That's my view on this.

 

[deacon1503]

I also include leaf texture in my normal observations. Softer the better. As close to velvet as possible. I noticed that was easier to maintain in the UC than in coco. Adding Epsom salts does increase this characteristic in coco though. I'm thinking its from the sulfates?

I've also delt with P- and always could tell by the redding of the stalk/stems. A deep solid purple. A complete depletion of green from any where but the fan leafs. No striping. Crunched up shoot tips. Also the red from the petiole shoots up the bottom of each fan leaf as the lockout persists. Those indicators worked for me. A complete stall in growth from a P lockout.

Good thread.

 

[Skunkmasterflex]

Agreed. Name calling is never appreciated. It's one thing to respectfully disprove someone's thoughts on a subject.

Not agreed.... I've never had a plant with reddish/purplish striping on the stalk I wasn't able to turn back to green by feeding properly. What strains have you grown out that do this? When you say you've grown out plants with reddish stems, what do mean by that? Was the general hue reddish or were there red stripes on a green stem? I get how some plants have darker pigmentation, but red or purple striping is almost always a lack of phosphate. If one uses the same nutrients on many different plants, one is bound to find a plant that has red stems, not because of variation in pigments, but variation in how much P the plant is using, IMO. Clones tend to do this because they use internally stored P to build roots. Once the clone gets a little older, this purpling goes away because the roots are now absorbing extraneous nutrients from the grow medium. That's my view on this.

Back in the earlier 2000s I took a trip to jamaica and found seeds in some really nice herb. I saved a grip of them and brought them back to the states. Not sure on the exact strain name as it was sold to me just as herb. Got it in the mountain central area of the islands down the way from where we visited bob marleys birth home and village. The village had a massive grow that you coukd take a tour of. We did so and bought around a lb. Think we paid around 200 bucks or so. Im guessing it was around a lb but to be more specific it filled most of my backpack after we took the flowers off the long branches and stock. When we bought the flowers the stems had red stripping almost to the point that they were sold red....id say they were more like red stock with dark greenish stripping.
When grown back indoors at home I had the same thing occure to the stems. I guessed maybe I couldnt get the right environment as they might not like the indoors. I tookc cuts of the best pheno from the seeds I started indoors and started a handful of the same seeds outside. All the plants did the same redish stalk coloring outdoors as well. We ran those inside and outside at least 4 runs.....never got fully green stalks. I may be speaking out of line as I know have scientific evidence beside trail and error but I feel pretty strongly that the particular strain simply put out stalks like that no matter what you did. We used synthedic and mostly organic feeds....all the same outcome. We even ranged the ph on the grows indoors and out from as low as 5.5 to 7...once again, same redish stalks.

I can honestly say iv had colored stalks on seeds iv bough from the farm or even made myself.... but that was on me as tbey just were not dialed correctly. I since then have grown those strains and had runs with pure green stalks. So I def understand where your coming from but I believe there to be landrace or native strains to some parts of the world that simply produce colored stalks.

Like I said no scientific evidence but to back up my theory other then all the stuff I tried and had similar results

 

[Classic Remix]

Correction - 3 years

 

[MtGrownCanna]

I have a few Jamaican seeds I'm contemplating growing, but I've heard landrace outdoor equatorial are very hard to grow indoors for many many generations. I don't know if Im into an acclimatizing program, but I may grow them out, find a male and breed it to a nice Afghan dominant hash strain. The "Jafghan Haze" !! :)

I would think so too, that somewhere in the world, mj has colored stalks. Remember when purple buds were hard to get?? Now every plant I grow has some funky coloring to the calyxes or leaves, at harvest. I can't say I've seen colored stems yet, but I will say I'm still looking.....

 

[Skunkmasterflex]

If you do pop the jamaican seeds just remember, they are used to outdoor life and they are most likely close to pure sativa so the flowering period is pretty long. Esp long compared to strains that are primarly grown these days. I believe I chopped my jamaican plants inside at 14 weeks and I feeo they could probably have gone a little longer though, they were pretty solid still. Outside we chopped them as late in the fall as we could before it got to cold out for plants. Good luck if you do get them going and please put up a few shots. It woukd be cool to see some jamaican flowers :)

 

[MtGrownCanna]

I just finished two phenos of SSSDH. The first one, haze heavy, went 13 weeks and it needed a few more. I had no choice but to chop due to time limits. 2nd plant was Sour D dom and finished in 13 with red leaves and an even mix of green, red, and purple calyxes. Killer taste and high. No nanners. Seeds were freebies from Connoisseur. The reason I got rid of it was because 13 weeks was a little too long for me.. It's way too expensive to go 16 weeks....oh well. If I only lived in Florida. Anyways...I have too many other things I need to work on that are much more promising. Im staring a few Cannalope Haze(Original Haze x Mexican). These are surprisingly finished in 9 to 10 weeks.....maybe a future breeding project, if I find a keeper Cannalope???

 

[thescaper1]

This is the worst post ever!!!! You can not tell if a plant is by the leaves fingers, that really tells you absolutely. nothing. my blueberry is 5 ft tall and is about 3 wide, she is starting her 3rd level of branches are coming in, (her branches branches branchs) and she only has 5 fingers on all her leaves. If the Plant is green and growing at a steady rate it is healthy. if unhealthy it will have noticablethinngsout of the norm like stunded growth, nutrtrient deficiencies which is the prob 90% of the time caused by to little or to much nutes, a few examples : yellowing of the leaves, purple stripe on stock, and browning of the leafes. a white powery substance covering leaves.and branches this is what we likerto call mildew, holes in leaves from bug, and droopy leaves which is caused by too much or not enough water you want to the leaves to be nice and perky, like they're stetching to the light. yes, the leaves are a big factor in telling the plants healthyness but nnot the amount of fingers

 

[thescaper1]

Hippfliping can u tell me what the purple stripesmean on my bubble fuck it's about four months old I'n thirty gal pot soil hand watered with roots organics frets spray and grow for foliar once every two weeks any help? Thanks I'n advance! First post I'm new so bare with me pls!

 

[ConnieG]

Six signs of a healthy Young marijuana plant:

I remember the first time I planted marijuana, my best indicator of a healthy plant was its vertical growth .
Even I was boasting to my friend that my Sensi Star is growing more than 2 inches a day .
Now, I do not pay too much attention to vertical growth, actually vertical growth is not even in my list of observations.

I think there are some signs that their presence could show that everything is OK.
I want to share them with you guys,Its just my observation and experience and I have no intention to say they are %100 correct.I will be more than happy to know your Idea about it.
Here are the signs:

A-When every new fan leaf has more finger(Blade) than previous one.Normally , in a healthy marijuana plant,the number of fingers is as follow:
1st fan leaf has 3 fingers(photo 1)
2nd fan leaf 5 fingers,photo 2 and 3
3rd fan leaf 7 fingers(6 is acceptable) photo 4
4th fan leaf 9 fingers(8 is acceptable)photo 5
5th fan leaf 11 fingers(9 and ten is acceptable)
After the fifth internodes all fan leaves should have 9 to 11 fingers but 12 blade is a possibility(photo 6)
Ps: some strains genetically, never show more than 7 fingers , even in the best grow situations. I
B-When every fan leaf has its side branch even the first fan leaf and the side branches don’t stop growing at anytime during veg cycle(photo 7, part B)


c-The stem of a healthy plant has normally some scaling on it due to fast growth of the body compare to limited ability of skin stretch(photo 7 ,part D)


D-When the first small pseudo leaf (photo 1 part 1) keeps its green color and does not turn yellow


E- when the plant shows its preflower on time( some strains have natural tendency not to show their preflower on time) . In every strain the presence of the preflower is a good sign but its absence does not mean any problem.


F- When side branches fan leaves has 7 finger leaf(photo 5).

AGAIN I SHOULD SAY ABSENCE OF ANY OR SOME OREVEN ALLOF THESE SIGNS DOES NOT MEAN ANY SERIOUS PROBLEM BUT THEIR PRESENCE IS A GOOD INDICATION OF A SUPER HEALTHY PLANT.

What do you think?

Please leave your comment.It will be most appreciated.
Peace and Hope all your plants are SUPER HEALTHY.
Satica

We just counted 13 finger blades on fan. Is this normal? I see from what I read it could be very healthy. It's a blueberry.

 

[Bulldog11]

I would disagree with almost everything posted in the original post.

I like this point of view

 

[2016grower]

Olá pessoal um noob real. E agora um foing meu girst froe (indoor) e agora a minha planta é vegging e eu dou im 20 /4 all mynplanta have 9 and 10 leaves i used foi or the grownd biobizz allmix and have bio grow n othing

 

[KannaKara]

13 leaf 2 month old baby from seed?

 

[1sttimegro]

So in other words mine is doing just fine?

 

[Pimples]

I grow in coco coir. 2 and 3 gallon pots. Not all plants show extreme phototropism. Which is an abundance of auxins in the apical meristem. But it is a good sign. Especially in veg under t5 lamps..cmh lamps..mh lamps and early flowering under the big lamps. Its very strain dependent though. What i look for when iam hitting on all cylinders is over all plant vigor and health. Ususally this tranlsates into the plant drinking /water/solution on a daily basis. Water in the morning when lights come on. By the next day the plant is ready for another gulp. When its on this track i usually play with my feed tank section of the master digital timer for the pumps and up this to multiple feeds daily. And they crops love it when i do that. Any hiccup with the process and you will know it immediately because the metabolism will slow and she wont drink up that water like she is supposed to.