Preventive treatment for new clones?

[Aligee]

Avid for mites, eagle 20 for pm, triple action neem for anything else!

 

[HappyTrailz]

Avid for mites, eagle 20 for pm, triple action neem for anything else!

Yes i meant mites! Triple action Neem?

 

[HappyTrailz]

Avid for mites, eagle 20 for pm, triple action neem for anything else!

Dunk or sprayed G? What dose? I'm liking what you have to say!

 

[Aligee]

This is what i use, as a preventive,

 

[HappyTrailz]

This is what i use, as a preventive, View attachment 343912

Then after this just use some eagle 20? I'm guessing to not use at the same time? Much love!

 

[HappyTrailz]

What strength are you running this? Sorry brother.... appreciate the 411

 

[Aligee]

Dunk or sprayed G? What dose? I'm liking what you have to say!

I use a one gallon sprayer that has a wand, you can get under and over the foliage real good!

 

[Aligee]

What strength are you running this? Sorry brother.... appreciate the 411

Shoot me a pm, ill get you some dosage #'s

 

[G u]

Besides being strongly opposed to any systemic, carcinogenic, and/or synthetic means of control, clones can be stunted quite easily.....

There is a lot of new research coming out of the PNW that focuses on more natural ways of dealing with pests and disease with as little damge to the end-user/grower/environment.

The part of the research that intrigues me the most is the studies on the protagonistic and synergistic characteristics ESSENTIAL OILS have as pesticides!

 

[G u]

For those that are interested..........

Post by GiMiK

"The purified terpenoid constituents of essential oils are moderately toxic to mammals (Table 1), but, with few exceptions, the oils themselves or products based on oils are mostly nontoxic to mammals, birds, and fish (Stroh et al., 1998), therefore, justifying their placement under “green pesticides”. Owing to their volatility, essential oils have limited persistence under field conditions; therefore, although natural enemies are susceptible via direct contact, predators and parasitoids reinvading a treated crop one or more days after treatment are unlikely to be poisoned by residue contact as often occurs with conventional insecticides.

Other essential oils such as lemon grass (Cimbopogon winteriana), Eulcalyptus globulus, rosemary (Rosemarinus officinalis), vetiver (Vetiveria zizanoides), clove (Eugenia caryophyllus) and thyme (Thymus vulgaris) are known for their pest control properties. While peppermint (Mentha piperita) repels ants, flies, lice and moths; pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium) wards off fleas, ants, lice, mosquitoes, ticks and moths. Spearmint (Mentha spicata) and basil (Ocimum basilicum) are also effective in warding off flies. Similarly, essential oil bearing plants like Artemesia vulgaris, Melaleuca leucadendron, Pelargonium roseum, Lavandula angustifolia, Mentha piperita, and Juniperus virginiana are also effective against various insects and fungal pathogens (Kordali et al., 2005). Studies conducted on the effects of volatile oil constituents of Mentha species are highly effective against Callosobruchus maculatus and Tribolium castanum, the common stored grain pests (Tripathi et al., 2000). Essential oils derived from eucalyptus and lemongrass have also been found effective as animal repellents, antifeedants, insecticides, miticides and antimicrobial products; thus finding use as disinfectants, sanitizers, bacteriostats, microbiocides, fungicides and some have made impact in protecting household belongings. Essential oil from Cinnamomum zeylanicum, Cymbopogon citratus, Lavandula angustifolia syn. L. officinalis, Tanacetum vulgare, Rabdosia melissoides, Acorus calamus, Eugenia caryophyllata, Ocimum spp., Gaultheria procumbens, Cuminum cymium, Bunium persicum, Trachyspermum ammi, Foeniculum vulgare, Abelmoschus moschatus, Cedrus spp. and Piper species are also known for their varied pest control properties.


Citronella (Cymbopogon nardus) essential oil has been used for over fifty years both as an insect repellent and an animal repellent. Combining few drops each of citronella, lemon (Citrus limon), rose (Rosa damascena), lavender and basil essential oils with one litre of distilled water is effective to ward off indoor insect pests. The larvicidal activity of citronella oil has been mainly attributed to its major monoterpenic constituent citronellal (Zaridah et al., 2003)."

Source:


Lavender, Lavandula angustifolia – linalyl acetate, linalool, borneol, geraniol, lavandulol, lavandulyl acetate, terpineol, cineol, limonene, ocimene, caryophyllene, aeranyl acetate, pinene

Eucalyptus, Blue Gum, Eucalyptus globulus – cineol, pinene, limonene, cymene, phellendrene, terpinene, aromadendrene, citronellal, camphene, fenchene

Clove bud, Eugenia caryophyllus – eugenol, eugenyl acetate, caryophyllene

Mint, Peppermint, Mentha piperta – menthol, menthone, menthyl acetate, menthofuran, limonene, pulegone, cineol, carvone, jasmone, carvacrol, phellandrene

Rosemary, Rosmarinus officinalis – pinene, camphene, limonene, cineol, borneol, camphor, linalool, terpineol, octanone, bornyl acetate, cuminic, caryophyllene


Source:


Eugenol is a component of clove oil. It is a fast acting contact insecticide that is effective on a wide variety of household pests such as cockroaches, ants, dust mites, flies, wasps, spiders, crickets, and fleas. It is also used on some ornamental plant pests such as armyworms, thrips, aphids and mites.
Eugenol has little or no residual activity, although the scent of cloves will linger. Products based on eugenol are considered minimum risk pesticides with very low risk of damage to the environment or user.

Source:HGIC 2770 Less Toxic Insecticides : Extension : Clemson University : South Carolina

Limonene is a naturally occurring chemical which is used in many
food products, soaps and perfumes for its lemon-like flavor and odor.
Limonene also is a registered active ingredient in 15 pesticide products used
as insecticides, insect repellents, and dog and cat repellents.

Source:

Pulegone - The essential oils (EOs) extracted from the mint species Mentha pulegium and Mentha spicata, together with their main constituents, pulegone, menthone, and carvone, were tested for insecticidal and genotoxic activities on Drosophila melanogaster. The EOs of both aromatic plants showed strong insecticidal activity, while only the oil of M. spicata exhibited a mutagenic one. Among the constituents studied, the most effective insecticide was found to be pulegone, while the most effective for genotoxic activity was menthone. Data show that both toxic and genotoxic activities of the EOs of the two studied mint plants are not in accordance with those of their main constituents, pulegone, menthone, and carvone. Pulegone is significantly more effective (9 times) as an insecticide, while menthone and carvone are less effective (6 and 2 times, respectively) insecticides when used in their authentic forms, and a mixture of authentic pulegone and menthone, in levels resembling their content in the oil of M. pulegium, showed that the strong toxicity of pulegone is suppressed in the presence of menthone. All the above suggest that synergistic/antagonistic phenomena may be involved that alter the toxicity of the whole EO.

Source: Insecticidal and genotoxic activities of mint essential oils. - Abstract - Europe PubMed Central

Linalool - Linalool has been shown to be good at killing mites: It's called an acaricide, which is are "pesticides that kill members of the Acari group, which includes ticks and mites" (p. 411 and 420, Bioactive Natural Products). "As a pesticide, Linalool is intended for use indoors to control pests (fleas and ticks) on pets and the spaces they inhabit by affecting the insect’s nervous system. Linalool is also used as an outdoor mosquito inhibitor..." (from the FDA handout), although there is some doubt about its efficacy for mosquitoes.

Source: Point of Interest!: Essential oils: Linalool

Hope this isn't repetitive, but I prefer to use the oils derived from steam distillation rather than the fresh material unless I have it on hand. Stores incredibly well and is very cost effective, imho.

I use 3 mL of Lavender (lavandula laitifolia) 3 mL of Rosemary (rosmarinus officinalis) and 3 mL of Peppermint (mentha piperta) essential oils, 3 mL Dyna Gro Protekt per gallon and if I have it, 3 - 6 mL of aloe vera extract once weekly as a foliar treatment. Sometimes I skip a week if I'm busy and no problems what so ever for over 6 months now. Apply it at most 15 minutes before lights out, though I would personally wait until they go off to spray. The oils degrade in 12 hours or less if exposed to light.

However, I do not consider myself educated, simply opining on a practice that has worked for me so far based on what I've read.

HTH, I apologize if this is redundant and has been covered here already.

 

[Aligee]

I also have my own recipe (tried & true) for essential oils! Best product to defeat them SOCAL broadmites!

 

[G u]

NICE! care to share?

 

[delae632]

Latex gloves and a bandanna is all i use! And Im still here LOL!!!

For now! lol We're exposed to this stuff a lot as indoor growers. I ain't risking my health for growing man, it's just not worth it. I'd rather spend $100 on safety gear and take the 5 minutes it takes to suit up before I spray than get cancer.

 

[MakinGoo]

Dunk or sprayed G? What dose? I'm liking what you have to say!

If there small enough & u can afford 2 make a larger batch of poison I'd say don't fuck around.. Dunk them bitches doggie.. If there big then spray them from head 2 toe every 3 days 4 two weeks.. I don't fuck around with bugs..spraying them can miss a tiny egg if u don't cover the whole plant with spray.. I recently got a cut with mites & dog I don't play around as soon as I took the cut from homie I went straight 2 the closest park after I grabbed a burger..LOL & busted out the avid & sprayed them down outside the car & spectracide 4 a root drench.. I only had gloves & a cheap mask.. I placed the cuts back in the car wet & ate my burger & fries in the car with the windows up so no extra bugs can get on the plant..<< super dangerous I know.. I was about a hr from home so I pulled over & hit the cuts 2 more times b4 I got back 2 My house.. They got hit 3 times with avid b4 they hit my town.. Then I switched it up & every 3 days I hit them Azamax,neam oil,avid,mitghty wash 4 a solid 2 weeks.. Then transplanted them & put them with my regular cuts... Every time I sprayed them & them bitch ass super mites from hell came back.. I've never seen the super mites b4 but I've read about them.. I'm on my plants everyday so I spotted the sand blasted leafs fast & it only hit 2 other lil cuts next 2 the dirty bitch!!

It was all the way on now!! I don't play around I chopped down every plant down 2 as small as possible.. I was afraid I'd lose it all.. This time I dunked EVERY plant .. My biggest plants got dunked with Azamax,neam,mighty wash but the veg plants got the avid & everything all over again 4 another 2 weeks.. This time every mite was killed I watched the mites die with my scope it's tight how they shake all crazy & the legs tweak out & move the wrong way.. LOL << I know I'm gunna die 2 but fuck that my plants ain't gunna die..

When I sprayed them I must of missed a single egg & it hatched & started the cycle all over again.. It's been over 90 days with no bug but a few gnats & springtails... I'm still spraying them 4 no reason with Azamax every few weeks & caps foliar every week..<< the funny thing is the bugs hit rite when I ran out of caps packs<< they got me when my shield was down.. If I had caps packs the whole time I think my plants wouldn't of got mites..

 

[Aligee]

NICE! care to share?

Sure!

 

[Aligee]

For now! lol We're exposed to this stuff a lot as indoor growers. I ain't risking my health for growing man, it's just not worth it. I'd rather spend $100 on safety gear and take the 5 minutes it takes to suit up before I spray than get cancer.

For sure! Its not very often i have to use this! My exposure is very limited i suit up ghetto style pants, long sleeves/hoodie and a bandanna or T over the face!

 

[MakinGoo]

For sure! Its not very often i have to use this! My exposure is very limited i suit up ghetto style pants, long sleeves/hoodie and a bandanna or T over the face!

Dog were from the valley they've been spraying that shit on us since we've been kids b4 it was banned.. That poison is all over the Central Valley<< r air is fucked!! LOL!!

 

[Aligee]

Dog were from the valley they've been spraying that shit on us since we've been kids b4 it was banned.. That poison is all over the Central Valley<< r air is fucked!! LOL!!

Yes we breathe all of Cali's pollution here in this valley! I think we have the worst air here and we pay extra taxes for that! Aint even ours LOL WTF!!!

 

[Aligee]

If there small enough & u can afford 2 make a larger batch of poison I'd say don't fuck around.. Dunk them bitches doggie.. If there big then spray them from head 2 toe every 3 days 4 two weeks.. I don't fuck around with bugs..spraying them can miss a tiny egg if u don't cover the whole plant with spray.. I recently got a cut with mites & dog I don't play around as soon as I took the cut from homie I went straight 2 the closest park after I grabbed a burger..LOL & busted out the avid & sprayed them down outside the car & spectracide 4 a root drench.. I only had gloves & a cheap mask.. I placed the cuts back in the car wet & ate my burger & fries in the car with the windows up so no extra bugs can get on the plant..<< super dangerous I know.. I was about a hr from home so I pulled over & hit the cuts 2 more times b4 I got back 2 My house.. They got hit 3 times with avid b4 they hit my town.. Then I switched it up & every 3 days I hit them Azamax,neam oil,avid,mitghty wash 4 a solid 2 weeks.. Then transplanted them & put them with my regular cuts... Every time I sprayed them & them bitch ass super mites from hell came back.. I've never seen the super mites b4 but I've read about them.. I'm on my plants everyday so I spotted the sand blasted leafs fast & it only hit 2 other lil cuts next 2 the dirty bitch!!

It was all the way on now!! I don't play around I chopped down every plant down 2 as small as possible.. I was afraid I'd lose it all.. This time I dunked EVERY plant .. My biggest plants got dunked with Azamax,neam,mighty wash but the veg plants got the avid & everything all over again 4 another 2 weeks.. This time every mite was killed I watched the mites die with my scope it's tight how they shake all crazy & the legs tweak out & move the wrong way.. LOL << I know I'm gunna die 2 but fuck that my plants ain't gunna die..

When I sprayed them I must of missed a single egg & it hatched & started the cycle all over again.. It's been over 90 days with no bug but a few gnats & springtails... I'm still spraying them 4 no reason with Azamax every few weeks & caps foliar every week..<< the funny thing is the bugs hit rite when I ran out of caps packs<< they got me when my shield was down.. If I had caps packs the whole time I think my plants wouldn't of got mites..

Thats wsup right there! Funny me n Ken were all stoned talking, we started talking bout how intelligent these plants are to have humans taking care of them like no other! They must have some type of energy to be able to do that IDK just some stoned thoughts there LOL!

 

[Seamaiden]

Interesting. Sact'o area had ZERO 'Spare the Air' days this year. Everything I'm reading says that our environmental laws are working to improve air quality.

For now! lol We're exposed to this stuff a lot as indoor growers. I ain't risking my health for growing man, it's just not worth it. I'd rather spend $100 on safety gear and take the 5 minutes it takes to suit up before I spray than get cancer.

It didn't cost me $100 to put together the suit, chemical-resistant gloves and mask, but I agree, it's worth it. I now only use them if I'm using OxiDate.