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LA County Deputies Mistakenly Shoot, Kill Hostage

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OS ANGELES April 11, 2014 (AP)
By ROBERT JABLON Associated Press


The panicky 911 caller said a man with a 10-inch butcher knife was threatening people. So when Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies saw a wounded, bloody man rush out of a West Hollywood apartment with someone on his heels, they opened fire.

But the man they gunned down Monday night wasn't a mad slasher; he was a fleeing hostage.

John Winkler, 30, an aspiring television producer, died at a hospital.

"Taking the life of an innocent person is a police officer's greatest nightmare," Interim Los Angeles County Sheriff John Scott said Thursday at a news conference.

The entire department mourned Winkler's death, he added.

Winkler was "hanging out" with some friends who lived in the apartment below him on Palm Avenue when a man who also lived in that apartment, Alexander McDonald, climbed over the balcony with the knife, sheriff's homicide Lt. David Coleman said.

McDonald was "in an incoherent state of mind, seemed very paranoid, which was uncharacteristic," Coleman said.

McDonald took his roommate, Winkler and another man hostage, then flew into a rage and began stabbing and fighting with them, authorities said.

"We don't know what caused his rage or what caused his outburst," and it was unclear whether drugs were involved, Coleman said.

Someone called 911 and arriving deputies were told the hostage-taker was a thin man in a black shirt.

Deputies announced themselves and pounded on the door and at that moment one of the stabbing victims took the opportunity to escape, Coleman said.

"The door suddenly opened and a man with blood spurting form his neck entered the doorway" with Winkler — a thin man wearing a black shirt — running after him only inches away, Scott said.

The fleeing man appeared to be under "continuous attack," the sheriff said.

Three deputies fired four shots, and a bullet mortally wounded Winkler. The other man was hit in the leg and was hospitalized in stable condition, according to a Sheriff's Department statement.

From the open apartment door, deputies heard fighting and burst inside, where they allegedly saw McDonald choking and tearing at the face of a man on the floor.

That man was treated for stab wounds and other injuries and released, according to the statement, which said a large knife was found in the apartment.

McDonald, 27, was treated for minor injuries. County prosecutors have charged him with torture, murder and two counts of attempted murder. He remained jailed Thursday.

McDonald was involved in information technology or computer programming and had no criminal history, Coleman said.

There was nothing in his past behavior that was consistent with the attack, he said.

Winkler had moved to West Hollywood from Washington state six months ago to work in the entertainment industry, his friend, Devin Richardson, told the Los Angeles Times.

Winkler's Facebook page said he studied directing at the Seattle Film Institute and was in the class of 2010.

Institute communications director Chris Blanchett told The Seattle Times that Winkler was a good student and "a genuinely nice guy."

Another friend, Trevor Jess, told KING-TV in Seattle that Winkler was "just starting out, ready to climb the ladder and that's the thing that breaks my heart."

The deputies, all department veterans, were removed from patrol after the shooting but were expected to return to full duty next week, sheriff's officials said.
 
Apparently Winkler had just been hired to work on the Tosh.O show.

What a crazy scenario it was that led up to this.
 
Ya I read he was hired by tosh.o recently and had moved to LA to seek a better life and it was finally coming togrther, we as the people need to get together in large numbers because this is becoming an epidemic, look up how often police kill a civilian in america its astonishing. I think the sadest part is after they kill you, they make up a lie that disgraces you even after your dead by saying you were a criminal they had to do it, so they can get away scratch free.
 
Wow and then they charge the man who held them hostage with murder. I understand he should rot in jail, but so should the police officer who will be back in the neighborhood near you next week...
 
more trigger happy LA cops. The training for these people has to be very poor. Seems there wil be no end if shooting the wrong people has no consequence. shameful
Remember the whole Chris Dorner fiasco? They shot 2 women delivering newspapers and a surfer. The surfer..who has the wrong color truck and skin got shot at and hit hard by a cruiser. The ladies got over 2 mil..the surfer gets 20K??
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Surfer-Mistaken-Cop-Dorner-Manhunt-Gets-20K-220122791.html
 
Cops are the only ones who can shoot and kill an innocent, unarmed civilian, and they get what? An incident report in their file? Murderers walking free with badges and guns.
On the night of February 26, 2012, in Sanford, Florida, George Zimmerman fatally shot Trayvon Martin--
a 17-year-old African American high school student...
 
On the night of February 26, 2012, in Sanford, Florida, George Zimmerman fatally shot Trayvon Martin--
a 17-year-old African American high school student...
lol different problems for different areas I suppose. my city had a problem with cops shooting un-armed black teenagers. big changes in leadership and hiring ended that pretty well.
 
Maybe some of that negativity you seem to have towards me can be pushed in a positive direction and become an activist against things like this?
 
Maybe some of that negativity you seem to have towards me can be pushed in a positive direction and become an activist against things like this?

I've been thrown down on by the LAPD, LASD, and much worse;
I coudda come to a similar end many times and I think there's a few hypocrite kneejerk <insert variety>'s
that might wish that had happened.

I posted in this thread to correct misinformation--
why did you post here, Boy???
 
Apparently to get you all bent. It was a joke, and now you're all pissed at me for some dumb reason.

And what information did you correct exactly? the travon thing?
 
Ask his parents, his loved ones and his friends how they feel. When you are the victim or directly effected, it's pretty hard to say anything positive.

It's an every day thing now, pigs shoot someones dog or gun down an innocent person and walk away. Waving signs and marching in silly circles ain't gonna change a thing, man.
 
John Lennon was one of the biggest activists this country has ever seen, and it's because people like him that certain people were let out of jail over pot. Didn't he even write a song about a guy in Michigan and sing at the hash bash?

You can mock it all you want, but it's how shit is done in this country. Period.
 
Ya guys lets all chill, theres far more problems in the world than the LAPD and if we sat around pointing them all out, wed never sleep. The worlds crazy and theirs millions of reasons why. And ya kolah I saw that video of a cali cop shooting that rott, completely ruined my day.
 
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