Patient in need of diverse honest helpful grower

[Smizmar]

Hello, I am new to the medical program for oregon, I was "auto" set up by a local dispensery for what I have now found out the hard way after the dispensary was closed, and I am not able to contact negotiate or find my "grower" ... and was horribly ripped off. I am a no income mother at this time w/a list of problems that goes very long. I am currently also going thru disability because of this.

I am in need of an honest moral grower, who is looking to help people as well as turn a profit and not just profit. I am against smoking, I do not smoke nor have I ever. I am curently using vaporized medicine but would be interested in a grower who can provide, drinkable, rub on tinctures or oils, and possibly edible forms due to my not wanting to smoke. I have several other things I would like to discuss in addition to these few facts I have provided, but due to my financial situation now and going forth because of my disabilities I have to have someone who is looking for LONG term patient and willing to work with me to provide my meds to me free of charge in return for receiving profit from any remaining product.

Thank you very much for any consideration.. I would like to find someone asap so I can put in the paperwork as I am very low on medicine currently, and my friend has graciously offered to pay the change fee. Thank you again!

~Smiz

 

[calyxian]

Kinda confused by a few things you've said up there.
Please clarify what you meant by "was horribly ripped off "
And "who is looking to help people as well as turn a profit and not just profit"
And "I would like to find someone asap so I can put in the paperwork as I am very low on medicine currently"
It really seems you think a grower slangs dope for profit. Why would you assume the yield of your "card" is more than your consumption requirements?
An ommp card is not a ticket to free medicine. Its a nice dream tho.
Many ommp growers reserve freebie favors for humble folks who don't feel a sense of entitlement to a fantasy crop yield.

 

[calyxian]

Supplies, electricity, hours of time and then you want it delivered in tinctures, extracts in edibles.
So add up glycerin, baking supplies and a whole lot more time.
Putting brownie mix on your Oregon trail card is not a contribution.

 

[bongobongo]

The hardest thing telling the patients is that sometimes this isn't some kind of free ride... Takes everything already been said x10

 

[calyxian]

The hardest thing telling the patients is that sometimes this isn't some kind of free ride... Takes everything already been said x10

Where did they get the notion that a card is a commodity ?

I might trade services tho. I need dishes washed, lawn mowed, dogturds picked up, dusting, vacuuming, cars cleaned, toilets scrubbed.......etc

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

It is a hard thing to come to or realize but for a grower to offer you more than an oz or two of plain flower each month is almost impossible first off you don't get a whole lot inside and to do a small room properly it can cost up to the range of $10,000
so after you build it you then have to manage it put new lights and nutrients soil/rockwool/hydroton constantly that's just what you CAN be reimbursed for then we still have to care for the plants witch is a daily tiering task of toping cloneing training leaf picking not to mention needing the years of experience to be able to recognize problems bugs, lock-out, burns, so on..... and be able to properly address these issues witch we have to do all for free. in short if you can deal with these terms and accept you only get so much and you have to trn it into oil or whatever or pay someone extra money or possibly find a grower who only dose oil to do it im sure anyone could point you in the direction of a thousand growers state wide otherwise I would suggest doing it yourself outside and hope it does not get the wrong nose or eyes on it im sry I cant be more helpful

 

[Smizmar]

actually I have talked to people who are FULL and cannot accept patients at this time, and they all offer up to 24 oz per yr, my rip off was that I was only going to get 2oz per year.. yea thats right, now I have also been told by those same -people that that is only about 30% of the TOTAL yeild from ONE patients plants. So you are telling me that all you greedy growers are keeping 70% of the crop and cant recoup cost? I would say you are the ones being greedy, very greedy infact.

Anyways I have found through one of the growers I spoke with about a meeting that happens somewhat regularly where HONEST growers participate w/patients, and I will be attending there instead, so continue to think that your over greedy ways are "putting you out" when we are the ones paying your bills w/that 70% extra, Ive also heard about alot of corruption in the grower community, and basically robbing people blind, so I dont buy it.

That is if you know what your doing, the person who gave me these stats says that not all growers have a green thumb... so maybe not everyone is as good as he is, and that is why they say they cant make money.

Thank you all for your gracious and rude words, maybe you should be taking a look at yourselves and your attitudes and start trying to be better people who are better at what you do instead of trying to make it out like someone asking a little extra is making you poor, when you and I both know thats not true.

I am not a "pothead" and frankly I was very against this, but after trying it and finding that it does work medically as I was informed I changed my mind, however I dont drink, I dont smoke nor have I ever, I dont agree w/those lifestyles, and just expect to be treated fairly for something that I have been told I use lightly compared to some other patients. Whats sad is you guys sit here and presume to judge me as though I am some greedy weirdo, which I am not I just want fair treatment and possibly alternatives.

PS. also, dont give me that line about grow it yourself, I have land, I grow gardens or normal produce and herbs, I however come from a very staunch family that wont understand, which is why I am looking for these "alternative" products. So I know whats possible especially after looking into it myself and talking to good growers locally. Saddly all the good ones are full.. imagine that?

Anyways, Have a nice day and a nice life, I wont be returning to these boards. I wish you all sincerely find some light in your lives and can become happier more gracious, and generous helpful people. It will make you feel like a better person because you will be. Good Luck.

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

This is exactly the point I am trying to make unless you can find an experienced grower (witch is almost impossible with openings) you cant ask them for much more as the small growers these days do not have very green thumbs they produce one to two oz per plant I know this from experience as I go around to a lot of grows and try and help people perfect THEIR art I say THEIR cuz everyone grows differently and needs client specific help like a doctor would give.. now with that being said I would kindly ask you to re sate or atleast watch what you say about people they are doing you a favor not the other way around and I am sure it is your attitude and demeanor about growers and how we should pay you your meds if you want your meds do what we did save your SSI cuz were all on it mostly ik I am and build a small grow and move up otherwise deal with the conditions at hand and feel blessed you even get the opportunity to get free meds AT ALL

 

[Oregon Grown]

With an attitude like that I can't imagine you would have a hard time finding a grower. It's not 1998 your card has very little value and by your comments I would say you are the greedy one wanting something for nothing. Maybe you should try growing and see if you would be willing to give it away after you know the effort that goes into it. You say you know what's possible so why not get a few cards to grow for and solve your medical and financial needs? It's simple just throw a few seeds in some dirt and count your money.

 

[SuperSilverHaze]

Supplies, electricity, hours of time and then you want it delivered in tinctures, extracts in edibles.
So add up glycerin, baking supplies and a whole lot more time.
Putting brownie mix on your Oregon trail card is not a contribution.

sounds like you are describing the typical small timer attempting to supply baked goods, extracts or tinctures as medicine.

can anyone say contaminated meds due to profit trumping all.

 

[KiLoEleMeNt]

With an attitude like that I can't imagine you would have a hard time finding a grower. It's not 1998 your card has very little value and by your comments I would say you are the greedy one wanting something for nothing. Maybe you should try growing and see if you would be willing to give it away after you know the effort that goes into it. You say you know what's possible so why not get a few cards to grow for and solve your medical and financial needs? It's simple just throw a few seeds in some dirt and count your money.

Totally agreed ^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[calyxian]

"you greedy growers are keeping 70% of the crop and cant recoup cost? I would say you are the ones being greedy, very greedy infact"

Crazy people don't need cannabis. Go to Craigslist with that craycray.

 

[calyxian]

sounds like you are describing the typical small timer attempting to supply baked goods, extracts or tinctures as medicine.

can anyone say contaminat
ed meds due to profit trumping all.

Huh? What'd that mean? Meesa thinksa yousa needsa rereadsa da threadsa. I don't sell anything .
What's a big timer?
At first I thought you were referring to an actual timer so I had to reread your post a couple times.

 

[calyxian]

But really 24oz a year isn't asking for much. Thats like one crop of the 6 plants. You should only say nice things to your potential servant. Not all that other ripoff stuff.

 

[squiggly]

Allow me to step in the middle here and suggest that both sides came off kinda shitty here.

@Smizmar : Understand that people growing for patients are not always making huge profits. A lot of them do it because they think it's the right thing. If you'll do some searching through this website (just go to the advanced techniques/problems section) you'll find that growing MJ isn't always the easiest thing in the world. It's not hard to flush 10K down the drain as a grower due to even the smallest of mistakes.

Also, because you have acknowledged that you know very little about the lifestyle it may also behoove you to accept that this puts limitations on your ability to correctly understand the many factors at play here. Coming in and telling these guys what's up and what's right or wrong is about as silly as watching a heart surgeon do a surgery and then trying to tell him about all the things he did wrong. You'd come off like a jackass because you just do not know what you're talking about.

Ask for help here, and you shall receive. Come out of the gates barking and maintaining a cognitive bias which has you convinced that you know more than you do is a recipe for disappointment.

The truth is that the best way for you to handle this is to grow it on your own. Please do not take offense to what I'm about to say--but if you're sick and this stuff helps you and your family can't understand that, your family needs an attitude adjustment. Have you considered that maybe you're not giving them a chance to be understanding of your situation? Sometimes people, especially family, are more amenable to this type of treatment than we first give them credit for. As you said you're not going to smoke and you aren't a pothead. I really suggest you try speaking with them and see if they're willing to allow you to grow there, or even to HELP you. I expect that if you have a good family they may surprise you.

If that is the case, I am more than willing to help you out (online) with what it takes to grow and to extract and make edibles/tinctures/etc. I expect you'll find most of the people on this forum are similarly willing.

@calyxian : You're talking to someone who doesn't know what she's getting into. She's having medical issues and she needs help. Taking a hard line on her isn't the right way to educate her. If you think what she believes is bullshit, then barking at her and taking an accusing tone is just going to reinforce her incorrect opinions (based on what they are). The cycle needs to stop somewhere and it should stop with someone who is in the know--someone like yourself. Sometimes people say silly things when they are uninformed (and sick). Fighting fire with fire isn't always the right way. I know that you can do better than this and that you can adjust your tone to fit the situation. Try to understand where she is coming from and what she is going through.

I'll just simply say that I expect better from farmers and leave it there. Our community here isn't about tearing people down. It's about helping them, educating them, and bringing them into the fold of the community. THCFarmer is what it is because of that overarching mentality and you aren't representing us well right now in my humble opinion.

Don't take offense to that, your opinion and your keyboard are your own--but I think perspective is something that is lacking here on both sides of the table. Let's try to rewind this and get her some help that's beneficial to her AND the grower she ends up working with. It's possible to do that and there's no good reason why we shouldn't try.

 

[SuperSilverHaze]

Huh? What'd that mean? Meesa thinksa yousa needsa rereadsa da threadsa. I don't sell anything .
What's a big timer?
At first I thought you were referring to an actual timer so I had to reread your post a couple times.

not saying you sell anything and the inflection of how you responded was to get across what? im from the dirty south and to me it reeks of a racist tone.

your mention of 'putting brownie mix on their ommp card isn't a contribution' was being a dick and shows to me you probably are a med-scammer just in it to get high. if you truly need Cannabis to get relief that can not be had w/pharmaceuticals then your response most likely would have been more mature.

it also sounded like you are putting yourself in a position to have superior knowledge regarding the cost to produce safe meds. growing in your home and making baked meds in your kitchen is what I was talking about as small.

how many suppliers of canna meds do in house testing on all products they let leash on the community? of those making infused products how many do so in an environment that could meet standards that other medicine is produced in?

the cost you mentioned is laughable considering the capital needed just for the infrastructure to grow, extract and make canna-meds in a safe environment.



sorry so many asses run off a potential member....please next time smoke a bowl and shut up.

 

[calyxian]

@ssh Wow you took the race path. But where did it take you.
Haha So you still failed to explain what a big timer is. Seems that a profiteer would be the same greedy sob the craycray was ranting about.

If its a just commercial kitchen you're announcing then why?
I don't sell cannabis nor do I make edible forms that appeal to schoolchildren with tastey looking labels.
Do you ?

 

[calyxian]

"I dont smoke nor have I ever, I dont agree w/those lifestyles,"

Is that really the kind of patient that deserves freebies?
To not agree with a lifestyle is very RightWing.

 

[Seamaiden]

actually I have talked to people who are FULL and cannot accept patients at this time, and they all offer up to 24 oz per yr, my rip off was that I was only going to get 2oz per year.. yea thats right, now I have also been told by those same -people that that is only about 30% of the TOTAL yeild from ONE patients plants. So you are telling me that all you greedy growers are keeping 70% of the crop and cant recoup cost? I would say you are the ones being greedy, very greedy infact.

Anyways I have found through one of the growers I spoke with about a meeting that happens somewhat regularly where HONEST growers participate w/patients, and I will be attending there instead, so continue to think that your over greedy ways are "putting you out" when we are the ones paying your bills w/that 70% extra, Ive also heard about alot of corruption in the grower community, and basically robbing people blind, so I dont buy it.

That is if you know what your doing, the person who gave me these stats says that not all growers have a green thumb... so maybe not everyone is as good as he is, and that is why they say they cant make money.

Thank you all for your gracious and rude words, maybe you should be taking a look at yourselves and your attitudes and start trying to be better people who are better at what you do instead of trying to make it out like someone asking a little extra is making you poor, when you and I both know thats not true.

I am not a "pothead" and frankly I was very against this, but after trying it and finding that it does work medically as I was informed I changed my mind, however I dont drink, I dont smoke nor have I ever, I dont agree w/those lifestyles, and just expect to be treated fairly for something that I have been told I use lightly compared to some other patients. Whats sad is you guys sit here and presume to judge me as though I am some greedy weirdo, which I am not I just want fair treatment and possibly alternatives.

PS. also, dont give me that line about grow it yourself, I have land, I grow gardens or normal produce and herbs, I however come from a very staunch family that wont understand, which is why I am looking for these "alternative" products. So I know whats possible especially after looking into it myself and talking to good growers locally. Saddly all the good ones are full.. imagine that?

Anyways, Have a nice day and a nice life, I wont be returning to these boards. I wish you all sincerely find some light in your lives and can become happier more gracious, and generous helpful people. It will make you feel like a better person because you will be. Good Luck.

I'm sorry, what's your reason for attacking another member here? I'll help you in your not returning. We don't do rude here.

 

[Seamaiden]

Folks, even though the OP didn't appreciate the responses, I appreciate that folks tried to help. In the meantime, in before the lock. ;)

Guess I should have read *all* the responses more carefully. Sheesh.