Osa Nutrient Additive Out Of Rhode Island! Is 5 Gallons Worth $4700?

[We Solidarity]

all good to know @motherlode...i haven't used osa but i've done 3 30+ lb. crops full aptus line and used the fasilitor as an amendment in veg til the bottle ran out, also used silica blast, powersi, protekt, and agsil. I've seen silicic acid work and honestly it wasn't enough to sway me. I've never had PM other than when I get infected clones, my garden stays happy enough to resist it even though there is with 100% certainty spores in the air. I'm not on this thread disagreeing as an uninformed, half-assed individual...I've worked my ass off for years trying to help this industry come into a standard that won't be discriminated against because of how unprofessional it is...the reason you don't see more professional plant growers in the cannabis community is because of how stuck weed growers are in the old ways. People growing other crops can't even wrap their head around the fact weed needs 7 jugs of nutrient to grow a plant, and it blows their mind when they figure out what it costs.

 

[FooDoo]

silicic acid isnt hype - if you havent used it you should really try it before you go spewing vile and making yourself look foolish

Cute attempt to take a jab at me. If you were more.informed, you would know when using growstone as a medium I do use monosilicic acid.

http://www.growstone.com/2012/10/growstone-silica-for-happy-healthier-plants/

"Fortunate for us (and for you) silica is released from Growstone in a form plants can benefit from called Monosilicic acid."

 

[motherlode]

if i was more informed?

so as a mod i should know what everyone uses as medium - lol

that wasnt aimed at anyone in particular

 

[GrowGod]

Cute attempt to take a jab at me. If you were more.informed, you would know when using growstone as a medium I do use monosilicic acid.

http://www.growstone.com/2012/10/growstone-silica-for-happy-healthier-plants/

"Fortunate for us (and for you) silica is released from Growstone in a form plants can benefit from called Monosilicic acid."

Did not know that, and I just started cutting the coco with grow stones last go around.

 

[FooDoo]

Did not know that, and I just started cutting the coco with grow stones last go around.

http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Monosilicic_acid#section=Top

"Chemical Names: Monosilicic acid; Orthosilicic acid; Tetrahydroxysilane; Silicon tetrahydroxide; Silicasol; Silicic acid (H4SiO4)"

Same thing, different name. 5000x the cost

 

[Rootbound]

check your math....if a 250 ml. bottle costs 90 bucks and mixes 400 gallons it's .22 cents a gallon...that's 4x more expensive than my base nutrients. Good growers aren't just growing amazing weed, they're doing it without adding another 20-40 bucks to their pound price for silica...I've found that if you are gardening on point band-aids like silica won't help you...if you're noticing a big difference from adding silica chances are there are things you could improve on as a gardener.

You are right. I reversed my numbers being left handed. So it costs me $12 extra dollars per elbow of finished product. Still pretty reasonable.

 

[motherlode]

You are right. I reversed my numbers being left handed. So it costs me $12 extra dollars per elbow of finished product. Still pretty reasonable.

and thats only if you use it every feed - which I do not

 

[fishwhistle]

Heres a link to a new thread that has some testing and info done by quantrill comparing sources including OSA.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community...tilizer-sources-aafpco-approved-method.76318/

 

[FooDoo]

Heres a link to a new thread that has some testing and info done by quantrill comparing sources including OSA.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community...tilizer-sources-aafpco-approved-method.76318/

Sick sick post

Cheapest product has the most plant available si by a landslide .

All the people claiming osa is so amazing, have you ever heard of placebo effect?

 

[GrowGod]

Sick sick post

Cheapest product has the most plant available si by a landslide .

All the people claiming osa is so amazing, have you ever heard of placebo effect?

dizzamn!!

 

[leadsled]

Don't forget the law of minimums.
boron, and molybdenum are in the 1000 dollar products and not in agsil16h.

Both are very inexpensive to acquire and add to your program.

Add those to missing elements balance your nutrients and for pennies and you got higher immunity and pest resistance, better calcium uptake and less stretch and more bud stacking. especially if you have the balance of the rest of the nutrients.
boron, molybdenum and silica are some of the missing elements in many soils and nutrient programs.

Molybdenum functions in converting nitrates (NO3 ) into amino acids within the plant, also is essential to the conversion of inorganic P into organic forms in the plant.

The balance of all nutrients is what is important. If your lacking boron you will get more uptake of calcium by adding boron and silica. Molybdenum is also related to stretch in plants. The same goes if your lacking silica.

That may part of the reason why so many growers see a response from fascilitor vitalize osa28 etc. Not solely silica.

 

[FooDoo]

Both are present in base nutrients

 

[Danky Mcnugs]

That is a sick post. I'm thinking I'm going to try a run on a kiss formula. Just base nutes seem to have everythingneeded

 

[stanklungs]

I came across fasilitor when looking for a product to correct boron def. In which case the sample bottle lasts forever. It's a worked as expected though I don't understand the hype over it. I swear by fossil shell for silica, and my stems are badass. Plus the fossil shells are like little razor blades and help control pests.

 

[Quantrill]

Don't forget the law of minimums.
boron, and molybdenum are in the 1000 dollar products and not in agsil16h.

Both are very inexpensive to acquire and add to your program.

Add those to missing elements balance your nutrients and for pennies and you got higher immunity and pest resistance, better calcium uptake and less stretch and more bud stacking. especially if you have the balance of the rest of the nutrients.
boron, molybdenum and silica are some of the missing elements in many soils and nutrient programs.

Molybdenum functions in converting nitrates (NO3 ) into amino acids within the plant, also is essential to the conversion of inorganic P into organic forms in the plant.

The balance of all nutrients is what is important. If your lacking boron you will get more uptake of calcium by adding boron and silica. Molybdenum is also related to stretch in plants. The same goes if your lacking silica.

That may part of the reason why so many growers see a response from fascilitor vitalize osa28 etc. Not solely silica.

considering the bulk of the bottle is peg400 and likely hydrochloric acid(chloride ions), I'd wager that these ingredients provide for the perceived plant response. just a swag though.

because of the peg400, it does make a dandy foliar fertilizer for silicon, whereas foliar applications of potassium silicate dilutions do not actually increase silicon content of the plant. This is, in my opinion, the major advantage of any stabilized silicic acid over potassium silicate.

but for root applications, potassium silicate is, IMO, the better choice.

 

[Tomba]

Seems easy enough to mix DE with water, let it settle out of solution and spray it

 

[Quantrill]

Seems easy enough to mix DE with water, let it settle out of solution and spray it

certainly easy enough to accomplish, but it will not significantly increase the silicon content of the plants your spray it on.

it might give some other perceived benefit though, I do not know

 

[motherlode]

Both are present in base nutrients

lol ok man you win - that shit is snake oil

next

 

[logic]

Some of these posts are boarder line trolling....and im started to get annoyed

if you don't like OSA28 no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy it.....

the next trollish comments will be deleted and the users banned....you have been warned.

if you have nothing nice to say or anything useful to this thread then stay away :badboy:

 

[FooDoo]

considering the bulk of the bottle is peg400 and likely hydrochloric acid(chloride ions), I'd wager that these ingredients provide for the perceived plant response. just a swag though.

because of the peg400, it does make a dandy foliar fertilizer for silicon, whereas foliar applications of potassium silicate dilutions do not actually increase silicon content of the plant. This is, in my opinion, the major advantage of any stabilized silicic acid over potassium silicate.

but for root applications, potassium silicate is, IMO, the better choice.

So if this is mixed with agisil and maybe a lil micro, it would be a great foiler spray then? Still dirt cheap too