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Not sure I want to give that out to just anybody.
I agree. I can't think of a reason they would even need that info?
Monster cropping is taking a clone from a flowering plant and revegging it, making it produce mutated growth for a month then explode with branching. Not a very efficient technique ime and I think it fucks with the final bud structure more than I like. @Junk started a thread about it in fact, didn't prefer it much either. His experiment is well documented as opposed to mine being years ago memories of experience.


Just droppin' by for my weekly stop and comment lol. Crazy, this thread blows up at least 20 pages between visits lately. A hell of a thread you started man.

I forgot to comment on the bud structure. Everything was normal, except everything acts almost like a main trunk. Even little spindly branches go straight to the top. It's bizarre.

Even yields were normal. In fact, my WW, I yielded less than EVERY single regular run. I think this is because the stretch is so enormous that the plants look huge....but the production is about the same.

Taking monster crops back to flower just proved to be an all around pita. I'll finish that diary asap with dry weights, final plant pics etc. But if it helps, I won't ever be doing it again.

no excuses... you just need to try harder when sourcing your shit....

40X - 25mm lens with LED Lights
$2.20
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For examining THC, it could be my eyes, but I find this necessary. 40x doesn't get me close enough.

http://www.amazon.com/Carson-60X-10...&qid=1449156616&sr=8-5&keywords=60x+magnifier

@SeaF0ur
Itching to pop your jihad purp X sour bubble, wanna get a few more ducks lined up first
Any notes on these??
That's a hell of a name lol

My next run is gonna be 3 monstercropping plants, take one at 7-8, one at 9, and one at 11 weeks, if all goes to plan. They are ready to be thrown in now to keep them short, but I have to adjust my light so it is perpendicular to the rectangular door area it was in. Got it all mylar'd now :)
Don't do that. Monster cropping is good for getting a bunch of clone sites if you need them asap. Taking them to flower sucks. This last run I did was the worst ever, & you are running almost the same set up. It's just constant, explosive growth. Not in a good way, it's a pita.

Just a pic of the tent tonight before and after feeding and rotating....plus 2 pics of how crazy diff the strains are inside my tent this run....

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What are you trying to keep in check with the blue trap?
 
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@Junk I guess so they can say it is all legal and medical. If they have their cards, and received samples from somebody with a card. Then no illegal exchange has been made.

I still don't want to give it to them. But I do need some testing done....
 
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@Junk

Some fungus gnats...almost got it under control, I get some paint strainer bags to throw over my airpots and some microbe lift bmc from the mailman today then hopefully everything is gravy bc I want them to be pretty much gone when I flip to 12/12 in a few days...It's shitty bc none of them are really showing me their sex! I mean I can take some educated guesses about which I think will be male and female but Im not ready to throw away one of these plants over "I think"...ya know?
 
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Oh fuck.
Lol
lol....

It's usually marked on the ducting. If you have cut that part off, or lost the sticker or whatever, you can connect it to the inlet side of a centrifugal fan & turn it on. If the ductwork tries to crinkle up (you should have it tight anyway, but you will see it "try") it's usually backwards.

The ductwork looks the same both ways, so that is the only way I know of to test it.

It makes a massive difference in air movement if you have it the wrong way. Instead of buying a fan speed controller, I alter my temps +/- 3 degrees by reversing or correcting the direction of the ductwork. It's not ideal for the fan, but fans to me are a necessary expense. Like bulbs, they only have a certain lifespan so I'm not that concerned about it.
 
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JORGE CERVANTEZ SAYS!!: "Blowing air is half as efficient as pulling air!"

Lol i had to do it all over the top like that. Had to. No questions

Jorge has been known to be wrong and not as modern of a grower. But dude is pretty damn smart, and did a lot for MJ growing culture so while some people knock him, im a big fan : ) and still employ a handful of his techniques
So I think George Cervantes is a wealth of knowledge. His bible is still the one I go to from time to time and I watch every vid and take his advice most of the time. In this particular case though from an efficiency stand point maybe he is right but there is no noticeable difference in how a filter works blowing or pulling. The scrubber doesn't work longer either way. I haven't found any evidence that my fans get any extra wear and tear and the smell doesn't get out either way. This is an area I have gone back and fourth with since I started growing. It simply doesn't matter. If it was something I've only done once or twice I'd just keep quiet but I've gone back and forth depending on where I was growing and it has never made a difference. So if you can save some space by putting you scrubber outside your grow space and blow throug it it will be fine.
 
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So I think George Cervantes is a wealth of knowledge. His bible is still the one I go to from time to time and I watch every vid and take his advice most of the time. In this particular case though from an efficiency stand point maybe he is right but there is no noticeable difference in how a filter works blowing or pulling. The scrubber doesn't work longer either way. I haven't found any evidence that my fans get any extra wear and tear and the smell doesn't get out either way. This is an area I have gone back and fourth with since I started growing. It simply doesn't matter. If it was something I've only done once or twice I'd just keep quiet but I've gone back and forth depending on where I was growing and it has never made a difference. So if you can save some space by putting you scrubber outside your grow space and blow throug it it will be fine.
I got caught up in the science & forgot how the subject was brought up. I have no idea about the effects with a filter. It appears you do, so I would just defer to that.

If someone wants to play around with their setup, an easy, & relatively scientific way to "measure" air flow differences is by getting a pinwheel...that child's toy that spins when you wave it around or blow on it. It's not going to give you a hard number (obviously) but often times you will be able to see the difference in the pinwheel.

E.g. if you had all your ducting backwards, & flipped it around, you would see the difference with the pinwheel.

Sometimes I do it with one of those childs caps that have the little spinning fan on top. But that requires two people, me to stand in front of the current with my head, & someone else to watch it & take notes :p
 
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I got caught up in the science & forgot how the subject was brought up. I have no idea about the effects with a filter. It appears you do, so I would just defer to that.

If someone wants to play around with their setup, an easy, & relatively scientific way to "measure" air flow differences is by getting a pinwheel...that child's toy that spins when you wave it around or blow on it. It's not going to give you a hard number (obviously) but often times you will be able to see the difference in the pinwheel.

E.g. if you had all your ducting backwards, & flipped it around, you would see the difference with the pinwheel.

Sometimes I do it with one of those childs caps that have the little spinning fan on top. But that requires two people, me to stand in front of the current with my head, & someone else to watch it & take notes :p
Apologies for the rant. Lol. That was only concerning a filter. What you said about actual ducting I agree with. Specifically about creating turbulence one way and not the other. I'm only saying the filter doesn't care lol.
 
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For examining THC, it could be my eyes, but I find this necessary. 40x doesn't get me close enough.

http://www.amazon.com/Carson-60X-10...&qid=1449156616&sr=8-5&keywords=60x+magnifier

That's a hell of a name lol

What are you trying to keep in check with the blue trap?


AnyVolume still beat Amazons prices...

60-100x $6.34


160X-200X $5.44



Jihad x Purps = SG's Khalisi I hit one with my Sour Bubble
Jihad is a double afghani indica from the 70's but the name would be suitable for today....

common items attracted to yellow cards are gnats, whiteflys, and aphids
common items attracted to blue cards are thrips and leafminers
 
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I got caught up in the science & forgot how the subject was brought up. I have no idea about the effects with a filter. It appears you do, so I would just defer to that.

If someone wants to play around with their setup, an easy, & relatively scientific way to "measure" air flow differences is by getting a pinwheel...that child's toy that spins when you wave it around or blow on it. It's not going to give you a hard number (obviously) but often times you will be able to see the difference in the pinwheel.

E.g. if you had all your ducting backwards, & flipped it around, you would see the difference with the pinwheel.

Sometimes I do it with one of those childs caps that have the little spinning fan on top. But that requires two people, me to stand in front of the current with my head, & someone else to watch it & take notes :p

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Is this really caps stuff or is it some sort of knock off??? its on ebay

Biowar Nute Pack - Biowar Root Pack - Biowar Foliar Pack ....
 
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Is this really caps stuff or is it some sort of knock off??? its on ebay

Biowar Nute Pack - Biowar Root Pack - Biowar Foliar Pack ....
It's not caps. Dude has been around for a while and it's an ongoing issue. If you want caps buy from him direct.lol
 
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Hey @Tnelz so i got the microbe lift in today, it didn't come with an eye dropper like i thought it would. When you say 8-15 drops per gallon, do you mean off an eye dropper or can i just use one of my 1ml pipettes and drip drops off of that>?
 

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