New Grower. 2nd Run. Big Problem In Week 3 Flower

[Daniel13]

This ISNT the same mix as my last run but this was from a reliable person who just took down multiple rooms with og nugs bigger than red bull cans. I've followed it to a Tea. That's what's so frustrating. But you're right about checking the flood and drain and making sure everything is getting distributed evenly and filled at least just under the cubes top.

Another question though. Is this all salvageable (if it is N tox). I know it's not gonna be an amazing harvest for sure but can this be turned around to an ok harvest. Looking for some positivity lol

 

[Daniel13]

Fml. Just took this pic of the roots.
Please tell me is just dirty from the hydro stone sand mixing with the water and not root rot

 

[happy b]

IMO what I see has nothing to do with lights....could be wrong but unlikely....for some reason to me....stuck in my head....is your plants arent getting flooded or not draining out....something keeps telling me that is the culprit....kinda stoned so....but to get a complete meltdown like I am seeing....reminds me of what my tomato plants look like through winter when I havnt watered in like a month and everything gets all contorted and the plant starts to consume itself

and yeah what exact nutes are you using...any additives...the lineup....
also have you checked your ph meter against calibration solution....I hear its new but always make sure it is calibrated
PH perfect AN should be 5.6 ph

Ph perfect it aint thays for sure.
i was going to say it looks like the plants could be damping off.check to see how heavy the pots are BEFORE the flood and directly after to see if they should be getting flooded as much.too much water can fuck u up as much as not enough.

 

[happy b]

Fml. Just took this pic of the roots.
Please tell me is just dirty from the hydro stone sand mixing with the water and not root rot View attachment 558857

Root rot from high heat in your room or from a dirty rez or somethin.
it SHOULD be salvagable IF u can put it right.

 

[Daniel13]

If all the buckets ARE getting filled evenly and with enough nutrients , Do you guys recommend I cut the mix in half and work my way up from there?

 

[happy b]

Your yeild is gonna really suffer.maybe next grow u should switch to soil for a couple o cycles just to get a bit more experience under your belt.
startin from hydro is not somethin i would ever advise a newbie to do.

 

[happy b]

Your buckets look really dirty.
in hydro your shit needs to be REALLY clean.especcially on the inside of your rez,buckets,lines and any air stones should be immaculate or it could lead to problems in your root zone.
im no hydro expert right enough.
ggood luck.i hope it all works out.

I wouldn't know what to look for. :/

Things that move and are alive.your rez should be dead.visually atleast anyway.

 

[Daniel13]

I really feel it's either the flood and drain system it's self or just the mix cause my first run, for my first run was pretty good. From the mix I posted above, is that good or should I just go back to the first mix I used that worked for me.

 

[happy b]

On an unrelated note-youv got a crackin set up there Danny.once you work it all out and dial it in youl be filling that space up with buds regularly.

 

[Daniel13]

On an unrelated note-youv got a crackin set up there Danny.once you work it all out and dial it in youl be filling that space up with buds regularly.

The light at the end of the tunnel. Lol hopefully it's a short tunnel haha

Thank you guys for all the help and comments. I really appreciate this, especially for my first post. Thank you for the welcome to the forums.

As far as cleaning, when this amazing run is over, do you recommend I use high % peroxide and just deep clean the shit out of it all?

 

[happy b]

Yes definetly.its gotta be clean like a lab.whats the point in puttin in so much effort & havin a sweet grow room and then cuttin important corners.
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[happy b]

Another suggestion.id go atleast half my grow in soil that way if you have hydro problems atleast youv got a decent half crop.
soil is very forgiving compared to hydro.

 

[Daniel13]

Another suggestion.id go atleast half my grow in soil that way if you have hydro problems atleast youv got a decent half crop.
soil is very forgiving compared to hydro.

Would I be able to use the same mix or should I have to get a new Rez for the soil run

 

[happy b]

Shit no.no rez for soil.just pots n soil.unless u want to put it on a dripper because you dont have easy access to your grow.
just pop the dirt in the pot,pop in the cuts water and off you go.easy peasy lemon squeezy.no need to worry about ph(not too much anyway) root rot,rez,pumps,filters or anything.it practically grows itself in soil.true the yeilds arent as good but atleast youl get a harvest.iv grown in soil nearly 15 years and never had a room turn fucked like yours...until i tried hydro.then i had the same problem as you.i ended up useing bleach in my rez water and then i thought "fuck it" and pulled em all out and put in soil.back to basics as it were.
keep it simple mate.

 

[Daniel13]

Shit no.no rez for soil.just pots n soil.unless u want to put it on a dripper because you dont have easy access to your grow.
just pop the dirt in the pot,pop in the cuts water and off you go.easy peasy lemon squeezy.no need to worry about ph(not too much anyway) root rot,rez,pumps,filters or anything.it practically grows itself in soil.true the yeilds arent as good but atleast youl get a harvest.iv grown in soil nearly 15 years and never had a room turn fucked like yours...until i tried hydro.then i had the same problem as you.i ended up useing bleach in my rez water and then i thought "fuck it" and pulled em all out and put in soil.back to basics as it were.
keep it simple mate.

I'll definitely be doing some research on soil. Thanks for the advice man. Hopefully I can still somehow pull something out of my ass with this run. I'll post update pics if anyone is interested.

 

[sixstring]

yeah those roots dont look good unless your res is the same color lol.idk about all that stuff your using but i do think you should start with calibration of the meters as someone said.then i would dump that mix asap and go back to your old mix and ph to 5.6 to 5.8 and only run about 800ppm total with something simple like the heavy a & b plus maybe a lil calmag and maybe that regen a root .also i would bump your rh to 60%.how many times a day does the system flood n drain?and does the res have good oxygen/bubbles? what is your res temps?be nice to get the res to 65f at all times.what did you use nute wise during veg that had them looking good?maybe next run keep that veg mix going and just add a touch of pk boost 1 x a week.but all these dif bloom boosters being mixed these days is crazy,totally whacks out the npk ratios and most times lowers yields or causes other problems.my best hydro plants were always the lower ppm runs of 700 to 900 ppm.i had marginal success at 1400 and above.frosty,yes but yields were lower.
check those meters and dial that ph down a bit

 

[Wisher619]

all that dust leads we to believe that those rocks werent rinsed well before use
those roots def do NOT look good at all....its really early in flower so if things get worked out quickly they might survive but I believe your yield will suffer as a result
I to believe that anything over 1k ppm's is to much unless it is a strain that calls for it...every strain is differ and most strain do well between 700-900 range and NPK is good in veg with something like 3-2-4 and bloom 2-2-3... JMO good luck

 

[Daniel13]

all that dust leads we to believe that those rocks werent rinsed well before use
those roots def do NOT look good at all....its really early in flower so if things get worked out quickly they might survive but I believe your yield will suffer as a result
I to believe that anything over 1k ppm's is to much unless it is a strain that calls for it...every strain is differ and most strain do well between 700-900 range and NPK is good in veg with something like 3-2-4 and bloom 2-2-3... JMO good luck

This was actually the first time I'm using these hydro stones. Maybe from when I sprayed foliar?

 

[Daniel13]

yeah those roots dont look good unless your res is the same color lol.idk about all that stuff your using but i do think you should start with calibration of the meters as someone said.then i would dump that mix asap and go back to your old mix and ph to 5.6 to 5.8 and only run about 800ppm total with something simple like the heavy a & b plus maybe a lil calmag and maybe that regen a root .also i would bump your rh to 60%.how many times a day does the system flood n drain?and does the res have good oxygen/bubbles? what is your res temps?be nice to get the res to 65f at all times.what did you use nute wise during veg that had them looking good?maybe next run keep that veg mix going and just add a touch of pk boost 1 x a week.but all these dif bloom boosters being mixed these days is crazy,totally whacks out the npk ratios and most times lowers yields or causes other problems.my best hydro plants were always the lower ppm runs of 700 to 900 ppm.i had marginal success at 1400 and above.frosty,yes but yields were lower.
check those meters and dial that ph down a bit

The Rez mix is actually kind of dark which lead me to believe the color on the roots is just from the feeding it had today.

I do believe there is enough bubbles in the Rez but maybe I need to get another one just in case. Rez is at 71 degrees. You think I should get a chiller for that?

 

[Toaster79]

Rez should be at 68F.

Also your roots should be white. Rinse those roots to see if those are particles hanging to them from the res or is that the actual color of the roots. Do they look slimey? They shouldn't. Also is there any slime in your buckets or reservoir?