The Uk Awesome Member And Growers Thread

[mancdank]

Iv got unrooted cuts in my fridge that have been in there for 3 weeks with no signs of distress.

I can understand not showing any stress yet but what about when there grown up doesn't it affetc it in any way ?

 

[happy b]

Wtf :( so there saying that the seeds of it ain't the same as the smoke of it in the dam grrrr they basically got the shoreline elite and stuck oasis with it to make some seeds and call it the same thing ?

Well i dunno if what they sell as shoreline in the dam is from the cut or dh seeds so...dunno.it wouldnt suprise me though.its a common practice

 

[happy b]

I can understand not showing any stress yet but what about when there grown up doesn't it affetc it in any way ?

I dunno im only just doing the test now.im just tryin to see if cuts would survive in a cold and for how long wen unrooted.just tryin to work out if theyl survive in the cargo hold of a plane wen comin in the mail but hemps confirmed they do and how its done.

 

[mancdank]

Well i dunno if what they sell as shoreline in the dam is from the cut or dh seeds so...dunno.it wouldnt suprise me though.its a common practice

Mother fuckers ! I feel like I've been anally intruded lol

 

[happy b]

Bro am I correct in what I've read it as because I won't lie I'm a little pissed it ain't about the money on beans but the time wasted trying to find summat that was never guna be ther

But it is there.or COULD be there.its the same even with s1.if u make seeds from a cut even s1 theres no gaurantee there will be an identical pheno in the s1 gen.more than likely is but by no means is it certain.the same with a cross.if i make a cross of say deisel and purp the resulting single plants aren all going to be 50/50 phenos of the parents.there will be a mix of phenos ranging in from pure deisel phenos to pure purp and everything inbetween.its a crap shoot from f1 seeds.

 

[mancdank]

But it is there.or COULD be there.its the same even with s1.if u make seeds from a cut even s1 theres no gaurantee there will be an identical pheno in the s1 gen.more than likely is but by no means is it certain.the same with a cross.if i make a cross of say deisel and purp the resulting single plants aren all going to be 50/50 phenos of the parents.there will be a mix of phenos ranging in from pure deisel phenos to pure purp and everything inbetween.its a crap shoot from f1 seeds.

The idea was to find a keeper from the tangie dawg cross and add some more orange funk with maybe that strain hemp mentioned find a keeper out of that and cross it with its self how many times would I need to do this before I could stabilise the strain enough to hit it with silver and make some fem seeds ?

 

[happy b]

The idea was to find a keeper from the tangie dawg cross and add some more orange funk with maybe that strain hemp mentioned find a keeper out of that and cross it with its self how many times would I need to do this before I could stabilise the strain enough to hit it with silver and make some fem seeds ?

That really depends on the strains but it would take a good few generations of crossing checking the offspring to see if the male you use passes the traits u want onto the next generation.to do a cross then stabalise it takes alot of time,knowledge and effort.thats why most breeders only do f1,s and why theres so many shitty phenos in the seeds we get.
breeders like loompa do alot of breeding of 5/6 generations,not to bottle neck the line as his yeti f3 still retains alot of different phenos butmost importantly most of the undesirable phenos have been eliminated giving a line of seeds that,while still having a good bit of variation between phenos ,theyr all what i would consider "keeper quality".but your paying a premium for beans like that simply because it takes more time and effort to acheive which is cool but when they charge $200 for crap thats out of order.swamp boys have just been accused of this on firestax.which suprised me as i thought that crew knew what they were doin.but i suppose growing for bud and breeding arent the same thing.

 

[mancdank]

That really depends on the strains but it would take a good few generations of crossing checking the offspring to see if the male you use passes the traits u want onto the next generation.to do a cross then stabalise it takes alot of time,knowledge and effort.thats why most breeders only do f1,s and why theres so many shitty phenos in the seeds we get.
breeders like loompa do alot of breeding of 5/6 generations,not to bottle neck the line as his yeti f3 still retains alot of different phenos butmost importantly most of the undesirable phenos have been eliminated giving a line of seeds that,while still having a good bit of variation between phenos ,theyr all what i would consider "keeper quality".but your paying a premium for beans like that simply because it takes more time and effort to acheive which is cool but when they charge $200 for crap thats out of order.swamp boys have just been accused of this on firestax.which suprised me as i thought that crew knew what they were doin.but i suppose growing for bud and breeding arent the same thing.

I guess there all about the $ than sharing the love I'm real interested in making a strain but if I do it its guna be done properly doesn't matter how long it takes :)

 

[happy b]

I guess there all about the $ than sharing the love I'm real interested in making a strain but if I do it its guna be done properly doesn't matter how long it takes :)

To be done properly you need alot of space.selection is the key and selections made from large numbers over generations is how its done properly.some people will get lucky and get a couple of good plants from20/30 plants but true breeders make selections from 50+ plants at a time.go read up on some of dj shorts breeding techniques as most,though not all consider him a breeding authority.

 

[mancdank]

To be done properly you need alot of space.selection is the key and selections made from large numbers over generations is how its done properly.some people will get lucky and get a couple of good plants from20/30 plants but true breeders make selections from 50+ plants at a time.go read up on some of dj shorts breeding techniques as most,though not all consider him a breeding authority.

Thanks for your help bro :)

 

[Limonene]

Devils harvest strawberry sour diesel best smoke on my stag do in the dam. I heard the seeds are terrible as in throw them in the bin half way through flower kind of terrible.
You can keep an unrooted cut for months in the fridge if you wrap it in wet tissue and keep it in a bag.

 

[RG420]

Devils harvest strawberry sour diesel best smoke on my stag do in the dam. I heard the seeds are terrible as in throw them in the bin half way through flower kind of terrible.
You can keep an unrooted cut for months in the fridge if you wrap it in wet tissue and keep it in a bag.

That's handy to know about strawberry sour diesel I'll give that a miss was gunna grab couple packs Cus it was fire in dam

 

[RG420]

yeh bro, but i give them a little dipp in tepped tapwater to try remove any bacteria that can build up, i prefer unrooted cuts, ESP from over sea,s. the cuts cant turn to bloom with no roots and they root mega fast cuz of the darkness. imoe anyway..

Nice one, good to know if I ever have to send or receive like that :)

 

[HEMPRER]

Well i dunno if what they sell as shoreline in the dam is from the cut or dh seeds so...dunno.it wouldnt surprise me though.its a common practice

from my understanding the texas shoreline cut was old and losing vigour, they crossed it to oasis to preserve the gentics., there seedline is from that so not a pure shoreline strain iirc that is. there,s not many s1,s that surpass parental stock with the exception of chunky pigs OGKB line and others maybe i dont know about..

 

[TheHulk11]

Gotta say Hulk,i just dont like allmix soil.i dont like its consistancey wen watered.i much prefer canna.canna pro plus is awesome.its really spongey and holds a great amount of oxygen even wen watered.uts a few quid more but worth it.or the terra pro is good too but not as spongey and a couple o quid less than pro plus.those are what i use anyway.

I just use what I've found works for me mate. I find biobizz soil and nutrients to be my safest bet as I'm not a big fan of putting chemicals in my weed. I like to keep it all organic. Well I like to pretend anyway lol.
Different strokes for different folks and all that

 

[mancdank]

I just use what I've found works for me mate. I find biobizz soil and nutrients to be my safest bet as I'm not a big fan of putting chemicals in my weed. I like to keep it all organic. Well I like to pretend anyway lol.
Different strokes for different folks and all that

I did a room that need 120 bags of soil and was a big coco fan but the shop never had enough so I got 60 coco 30 canna terra and 30 all mix so when I filled all the pots I put them in all there own sections with no difference in nute or light the difference in plants was massive the plants in all mix was impressively better thicker stems and all together bigger and better structure but with the vast amount of plants being in coco I needed time to allow em to catch up in the end all the plants in coco seemed to finish a lot better but for starting they defo took off quicker in all mix hope this helps :)

 

[mancdank]

To be done properly you need alot of space.selection is the key and selections made from large numbers over generations is how its done properly.some people will get lucky and get a couple of good plants from20/30 plants but true breeders make selections from 50+ plants at a time.go read up on some of dj shorts breeding techniques as most,though not all consider him a breeding authority.

Just been reading a lot of his stuff the catalogue process was a interesting read all in all a very nice heads up thanks bro :)

 

[RG420]

I just use what I've found works for me mate. I find biobizz soil and nutrients to be my safest bet as I'm not a big fan of putting chemicals in my weed. I like to keep it all organic. Well I like to pretend anyway lol.
Different strokes for different folks and all that

I'm the same fella! Only I use bio bizz light mix ( more control ) and Old timers grow and bloom, although saying that I'm running 4 cuts in coco very soon! First run for the coco so I'll probably fuck it up lol then will be back to dirt :)

 

[ShroomKing]

Devils harvest strawberry sour diesel best smoke on my stag do in the dam. I heard the seeds are terrible as in throw them in the bin half way through flower kind of terrible.
You can keep an unrooted cut for months in the fridge if you wrap it in wet tissue and keep it in a bag.

Totally unrelated.
I have refrigerated cuts for up to 3 weeks and they rooted very vigorously.

What do you think about using the refrigerated cut technique for 4 weeks to rid a valued cut of pests?

Think it could work?
Or would the pests just hibernate?

What do you think about rolling the cut in Diatamcious earth before refrigerating?

Just some stuff I think about when stoned. Lol

 

[RG420]

I did a room that need 120 bags of soil and was a big coco fan but the shop never had enough so I got 60 coco 30 canna terra and 30 all mix so when I filled all the pots I put them in all there own sections with no difference in nute or light the difference in plants was massive the plants in all mix was impressively better thicker stems and all together bigger and better structure but with the vast amount of plants being in coco I needed time to allow em to catch up in the end all the plants in coco seemed to finish a lot better but for starting they defo took off quicker in all mix hope this helps :)

120 bags for one run!!! Dam!! That's a big run mate lol I only need 1 or 2 hahaha.... Maybe one day I'll scale up...... To another 1.2x1.2 lol