Spectrum King Leds - Anybod Using These?

[Djloud]

gee...i work my brains out..get very resinous but way undersize buds from my sk400+..
while the same hps grown side by side plants..look pretty darn good
and you grow led plants that for 4 weeks..look like they are at week 8..
...i am not worthy

Question. Did u have the 400 series or the 400+

 

[Djloud]

gee...i work my brains out..get very resinous but way undersize buds from my sk400+..
while the same hps grown side by side plants..look pretty darn good
and you grow led plants that for 4 weeks..look like they are at week 8..
...i am not worthy

Oh and another secret to big yields is to wait till after week 3 and every day pluck a few leaves from each plant that are covering bud sites. Not to many u dont wanna shock it. Do this a few times for the next couple weeks and u wont believe the bump in yield u get. Once your plants get late into flower they dont need all them leaves that do nothing but block light from really penetrateing. Very little larf this way and u dont have to lolipop so much u will get way more bud. Try it and thank me later

 

[Djloud]

Question. Did u have the 400 series or the 400+

Oh i just seen u had the 400+. What kind of distance off the canopy did u keep the sk? If u dont mind me asking

 

[Wisher619]

I think LED is just a learning curve...once you get it dialed in they kill it....if you are running the right setup......

 

[Djloud]

I think LED is just a learning curve...once you get it dialed in they kill it....if you are running the right setup......

Hell yea. Absolutely the truth. So many people use led one time and decide its junk just because they feel they should have got more. If they would just keep working with it and dial it in leds can kiil it for sure. My spectrum king s speak for themselves.led is a totally different animal than an hps. Once i realized the proper way to use the leds and tweek my feeding a lil bit i started killin it. Frost for days

 

[km1]

amigo
yes ia gree about dial in

but i was with 18" and it wasn't the problem..the penetration was good way down

it just did not make fat enough buds..uncharacteristically unfat

also i had 10X more resin than your plants

but yours looked like..they were 8 weeks of 12/12 under an hps..you did have decent resin

production though..just an unrealitic colas size at 4ks

unfact i have never seen anything that dense at 4wks....flowering..

but i have only been doing hid and hydro since 1979

of course i will try it again in flower..i spent giant dough on the unit

i am fully willing to admit i don't know how to grow if i hadn't done single plants that yielded a kilo before

 

[km1]

I think LED is just a learning curve...once you get it dialed in they kill it....if you are running the right setup......

well that "sounds" all very well and good..but its just talk at this point..

it is not JUST a learning curve..one needs the correct unit..

the right setup...yes a good led unit that will flower compared to hps..and the spectrumking at least this run for me is NOT

i have been using leds for a few years testing different ones

so far not great..i am still keen..but i am going 3590's

 

[Wisher619]

SK and 3590's are very similar and will do the same thing......what I mean by dial in....feeding schedules need to be changed because of the high photons....an hps at best only runs to 40% where as the high end LED's ie SK, 3590 cob,there are a few companys that build COB lights that are badass, run up to 60% effecient which is way more photons per watt of energy consumption.....dial in per light recipe....I have seen to many people killin it with dense nugs.....usually not huge colas but dense all the way down from what I have witnesed.....@km1 i sense your passive agressive tone.....noone is questioning your grow experience or grow quality......
the more photons your plant recieves ....your nutrients have to compensate for higher nutrient conversion.....and from what I have seen you have to run ambient at a higher temp say 80-85.....just my limited knowledge

 

[tags420]

Top bin high efficiency production COB panels are awesome in commercial settings and are currently the the top end in actual performance(high quality flower biomass yields). A few soon to be on the same fully commercial certification level(ul/etl/ip65+) as the previously mentioned top brands. But didn't want to really mention them until no questions asked they can go anywhere. But if we are talking about truly the best in, they need to be mentioned. They are just simply photon animals, with a conveniently ideal spectrum. Their price is less for better lights than anything offered in top caliber lights. Of course hps is till the lowest startup, but higher efficiency allows less wattage to create the same amount of light and lower heat(substantial in a commercial setting) and savings to accrue while not sacrificing yield/total crop value.

Before SK's mkr upgrade they were using second bin xbd's. Owner showed the invoice for the chips. So I can only believe they are using second bin mkr's now too unless shown otherwise.
But let's assume the are using top bin mkr 4k's..."H4".
Go the to cree's PCT and compare across the board any cree chips you want
http://pct.cree.com/dt/index.html

SK uses hlg240-36's and runs 8 parallel strings per driver at ~850ma/string a
SK with H4's at that current will hit ~125lm/w.
While the top bin cobs(3070 and 3590) are doing ~160-172lm/w at the base value level 1400ma.
Similar QER(quantum efficiency rating) including sk's monos making lumens comparisons fair.
Long story short...about 25-35% improvement over the SK...for half the cost per watt at the retail level, then being able to DIY for less is where the argument against SK comes from. And like I mentioned, it's unsure about what bins sk uses and could be an even bigger difference.

And at the end of the day for the average joe...they can DIY a light and save even more and get even better performance per their dollar.

SK is good and they work, but there is better and cheaper led's plus hps is still a ahead of SK.

 

[basseye]

Top bin high efficiency production COB panels are awesome in commercial settings and are currently the the top end in actual performance(high quality flower biomass yields). A few soon to be on the same fully commercial certification level(ul/etl/ip65+) as the previously mentioned top brands. But didn't want to really mention them until no questions asked they can go anywhere. But if we are talking about truly the best in, they need to be mentioned. They are just simply photon animals, with a conveniently ideal spectrum. Their price is less for better lights than anything offered in top caliber lights. Of course hps is till the lowest startup, but higher efficiency allows less wattage to create the same amount of light and lower heat(substantial in a commercial setting) and savings to accrue while not sacrificing yield/total crop value.
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Before SK's mkr upgrade they were using second bin xbd's. Owner showed the invoice for the chips. So I can only believe they are using second bin mkr's now too unless shown otherwise.
But let's assume the are using top bin mkr 4k's..."H4".
Go the to cree's PCT and compare across the board any cree chips you want
http://pct.cree.com/dt/index.html

SK uses hlg240-36's and runs 8 parallel strings per driver at ~850ma/string a
SK with H4's at that current will hit ~125lm/w.
While the top bin cobs(3070 and 3590) are doing ~160-172lm/w at the base value level 1400ma.
Similar QER(quantum efficiency rating) including sk's monos making lumens comparisons fair.
Long story short...about 25-35% improvement over the SK...for half the cost per watt at the retail level, then being able to DIY for less is where the argument against SK comes from. And like I mentioned, it's unsure about what bins sk uses and could be an even bigger difference.

And at the end of the day for the average joe...they can DIY a light and save even more and get even better performance per their dollar.

SK is good and they work, but there is better and cheaper led's plus hps is still a ahead of SK.

nice,so what are those led panels called?just a development deal or are they on the market?

 

[Djloud]

View attachment 573430 amigo
yes ia gree about dial in

but i was with 18" and it wasn't the problem..the penetration was good way down

it just did not make fat enough buds..uncharacteristically unfat

also i had 10X more resin than your plants

but yours looked like..they were 8 weeks of 12/12 under an hps..you did have decent resin

production though..just an unrealitic colas size at 4ks

unfact i have never seen anything that dense at 4wks....flowering..

but i have only been doing hid and hydro since 1979

of course i will try it again in flower..i spent giant dough on the unit

i am fully willing to admit i don't know how to grow if i hadn't done single plants that yielded a kilo before

My plants pack on the resin its still early. They are frosty that pic doesnt show very well. Anyway its only day 28. That was kinda juvenile to say ( my buds are frostier than yours) lol. Trust me u cant touch me as a grower. Damn people where is the grower love. Everyone just likes to hate and troll. Fuckin troll

 

[Djloud]

Top bin high efficiency production COB panels are awesome in commercial settings and are currently the the top end in actual performance(high quality flower biomass yields). A few soon to be on the same fully commercial certification level(ul/etl/ip65+) as the previously mentioned top brands. But didn't want to really mention them until no questions asked they can go anywhere. But if we are talking about truly the best in, they need to be mentioned. They are just simply photon animals, with a conveniently ideal spectrum. Their price is less for better lights than anything offered in top caliber lights. Of course hps is till the lowest startup, but higher efficiency allows less wattage to create the same amount of light and lower heat(substantial in a commercial setting) and savings to accrue while not sacrificing yield/total crop value.
View attachment 573617 View attachment 573618

Before SK's mkr upgrade they were using second bin xbd's. Owner showed the invoice for the chips. So I can only believe they are using second bin mkr's now too unless shown otherwise.
But let's assume the are using top bin mkr 4k's..."H4".
Go the to cree's PCT and compare across the board any cree chips you want
http://pct.cree.com/dt/index.html

SK uses hlg240-36's and runs 8 parallel strings per driver at ~850ma/string a
SK with H4's at that current will hit ~125lm/w.
While the top bin cobs(3070 and 3590) are doing ~160-172lm/w at the base value level 1400ma.
Similar QER(quantum efficiency rating) including sk's monos making lumens comparisons fair.
Long story short...about 25-35% improvement over the SK...for half the cost per watt at the retail level, then being able to DIY for less is where the argument against SK comes from. And like I mentioned, it's unsure about what bins sk uses and could be an even bigger difference.

And at the end of the day for the average joe...they can DIY a light and save even more and get even better performance per their dollar.

SK is good and they work, but there is better and cheaper led's plus hps is still a ahead of SK.

But i added up the cost to put together a 4×4 cob setup everything i would need would cost over 1000. Where is the savings? I dont care what u say about the sk and i have a light meter. It it brighter than a gavita.

 

[REALSTYLES]

But i added up the cost to put together a 4×4 cob setup everything i would need would cost over 1000. Where is the savings? I dont care what u say about the sk and i have a light meter. It it brighter than a gavita.

My lights kick the dog shit out of SK all day lol

Edit: I forgot to say each 400w panel was only $700 in parts

 

[Wisher619]

Top bin high efficiency production COB panels are awesome in commercial settings and are currently the the top end in actual performance(high quality flower biomass yields). A few soon to be on the same fully commercial certification level(ul/etl/ip65+) as the previously mentioned top brands. But didn't want to really mention them until no questions asked they can go anywhere. But if we are talking about truly the best in, they need to be mentioned. They are just simply photon animals, with a conveniently ideal spectrum. Their price is less for better lights than anything offered in top caliber lights. Of course hps is till the lowest startup, but higher efficiency allows less wattage to create the same amount of light and lower heat(substantial in a commercial setting) and savings to accrue while not sacrificing yield/total crop value.
View attachment 573617 View attachment 573618

Before SK's mkr upgrade they were using second bin xbd's. Owner showed the invoice for the chips. So I can only believe they are using second bin mkr's now too unless shown otherwise.
But let's assume the are using top bin mkr 4k's..."H4".
Go the to cree's PCT and compare across the board any cree chips you want
http://pct.cree.com/dt/index.html

SK uses hlg240-36's and runs 8 parallel strings per driver at ~850ma/string a
SK with H4's at that current will hit ~125lm/w.
While the top bin cobs(3070 and 3590) are doing ~160-172lm/w at the base value level 1400ma.
Similar QER(quantum efficiency rating) including sk's monos making lumens comparisons fair.
Long story short...about 25-35% improvement over the SK...for half the cost per watt at the retail level, then being able to DIY for less is where the argument against SK comes from. And like I mentioned, it's unsure about what bins sk uses and could be an even bigger difference.

And at the end of the day for the average joe...they can DIY a light and save even more and get even better performance per their dollar.

SK is good and they work, but there is better and cheaper led's plus hps is still a ahead of SK.

those are PLC I believe....super badass....I was just watching that dudes chanel last night.....those are already in production yes but they are the 3070 I believe the 3590's will be coming out this year...I am def gonna get one ....he and growmou5 know what they are doing...IMO

a link
http://www.pacificlightconcepts.com

 

[Wisher619]

@Djloud
where are you sourcing your parts???Talk to Realstyles...a 4x4 should only run you $600-800...and it WILL kill an SK400+ as well as a de gavita
nothing against those 2 as they are great....but

 

[km1]

My plants pack on the resin its still early. They are frosty that pic doesnt show very well. Anyway its only day 28. That was kinda juvenile to say ( my buds are frostier than yours) lol.
>well i was justgrasping at straws trying tovalidate my sk grow

Trust me

>i don't

u cant touch me as a grower. ..

>>>well the plant i posted was not too bad..but yes my sk grow was not great

Damn people where is the grower love.

>normally its there

Everyone just likes to hate and troll

>i don't hate but you seem to be pretty mean..i didn't swear at the sk 400+

how am i a troll..because i said it didn't do well for me?

i am a spectrumking customer and tried to say the best i could with the results i got

gonna swear at me some more?

 

[basseye]

those are PLC I believe....super badass....I was just watching that dudes chanel last night.....those are already in production yes but they are the 3070 I believe the 3590's will be coming out this year...I am def gonna get one ....he and growmou5 know what they are doing...IMO

a link
http://www.pacificlightconcepts.com

thanks for that link.it appears that fixture is 100.oo more than what i can build one for? im really not into the whole diy thing.i want to be able to sleep at night knowing my lights wont burn down my stuff lol

 

[Djloud]

My lights kick the dog shit out of SK all day lol

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Edit: I forgot to say each 400w panel was only $700 in parts

Nice setup but how can u say i would kick the shit outta sk. Wait till u see my harvest and then we will see. I think u will be suprised with the sk. I do like ur setup but why do u gotta act like a child and dog my setup. My shit works great and so does yours. To each his own. Peace

 

[Djloud]

@Djloud
where are you sourcing your parts???Talk to Realstyles...a 4x4 should only run you $600-800...and it WILL kill an SK400+ as well as a de gavita
nothing against those 2 as they are great....but

I sourced my parts from a grow mous5 video. Where he showed screen shots of prices on various websites. Im talkin cree cxb 3590 and meanwell 240 c700b. They are not cheap. Plus if i built my own i would throw some extra 660s 740s and a few uv diodes

 

[Djloud]

My plants pack on the resin its still early. They are frosty that pic doesnt show very well. Anyway its only day 28. That was kinda juvenile to say ( my buds are frostier than yours) lol.
>well i was justgrasping at straws trying tovalidate my sk grow

Trust me

>i don't

u cant touch me as a grower. ..

>>>well the plant i posted was not too bad..but yes my sk grow was not great

Damn people where is the grower love.

>normally its there

Everyone just likes to hate and troll

>i don't hate but you seem to be pretty mean..i didn't swear at the sk 400+

how am i a troll..because i said it didn't do well for me?

i am a spectrumking customer and tried to say the best i could with the results i got

gonna swear at me some more?

No just wondering why u called me a liar. And u cant even see the resin in them pics anyway. I cant touch u as a grower ha ha. Thats hilarious. How bout this dont talk to me and i wont talk to u. I didn't get on these forums to argue im just tryin to talk with other growers not get dogged out when i post a pic. That is lame as fuck