Dj Short Blueberry - Without The Blueberry

[Dankalicious]

I met DJ Short last year and picked up 40 seeds of his "Blueberry" F4 generation. Grew them all out, and they all were very uniform. Found only a couple that had a different smell or branching structure. However none of them had the Blueberry Terp profile. Good quality herb, but I wouldn't label it "Blueberry". The phenos I kept leaned more toward the sativa side. One of the males is in a breeding project right now. But I am not wanting to label him "Blueberry" in the lineage chart because I believe it is misleading. I also do not want to claim the flowers of the females are "Blueberry" when they do not have that smell. So what would you call it? The plants are very purple all the way from the stems to the flowers. I'm wondering if I should label the genetics "Purple Thai" for legitimate common sense reasons.... I think calling them "Blueberry" is false advertising.

 

[G gnome]

I met DJ Short last year and picked up 40 seeds of his "Blueberry" F4 generation. Grew them all out, and they all were very uniform. Found only a couple that had a different smell or branching structure. However none of them had the Blueberry Terp profile. Good quality herb, but I wouldn't label it "Blueberry". The phenos I kept leaned more toward the sativa side. One of the males is in a breeding project right now. But I am not wanting to label him "Blueberry" in the lineage chart because I believe it is misleading. I also do not want to claim the flowers of the females are "Blueberry" when they do not have that smell. So what would you call it? The plants are very purple all the way from the stems to the flowers. I'm wondering if I should label the genetics "Purple Thai" for legitimate common sense reasons.... I think calling them "Blueberry" is false advertising.

Call it fauxberry.

 

[drewski85]

You could always label it by its lineage( which I think goes a lil something like : Thai x purple Thai/Afghani)

 

[G gnome]

Or call it what it is and not try to change the name of someone else's work...novel idea right?

 

[cocoJoe]

Well over a decade ago I bought DJ's Blueberry and Blue Moonshine strains..
The BB had no smell or taste of Blueberry.. The Blue Moonshine Plants did..
This is just a comment on the Original BB not true Blueberry..
Peace

 

[Dankalicious]

Well over a decade ago I bought DJ's Blueberry and Blue Moonshine strains..
The BB had no smell or taste of Blueberry.. The Blue Moonshine Plants did..
This is just a comment on the Original BB not true Blueberry..
Peace

Yeah I'm not too happy about it. 40 seed project for a Blueberry terp and not a drop. Personally if I sold someone some lemon genetics and not one of them smelled like lemon I'd refund their money and either change the label or include a disclaimer. Not bashing Short by any means. I think the man is a genius and well educated in the field of Cannabis. In the business aspect though the ID card that came with each pack of genetics declared a flavor and aroma of blueberries. Pretty much the entire basis for the purchase and overall goal of the whole project.

 

[Dankalicious]

Or call it what it is and not try to change the name of someone else's work...novel idea right?

If you sold me seeds and told me they were lemon trees, and then I planted them and they grew oranges, and then you said "well yeah those are the genetics I guess you just didn't get lucky" I would probably have a few things to say to you. Also if you label your projects in flavors that are not present, I would highly doubt the credibility of your work. But, if you are one of those clone providers that is out there selling clones of flavor strains that do not possess the flavor, and telling people that it's the name of the genetics because "you have a novel idea", then you are one of the many who are definitely not getting the point.

 

[G gnome]

If you sold me seeds and told me they were lemon trees, and then I planted them and they grew oranges, and then you said "well yeah those are the genetics I guess you just didn't get lucky" I would probably have a few things to say to you. Also if you label your projects in flavors that are not present, I would highly doubt the credibility of your work. But, if you are one of those clone providers that is out there selling clones of flavor strains that do not possess the flavor, and telling people that it's the name of the genetics because "you have a novel idea", then you are one of the many who are definitely not getting the point.

oh i get the point....
Somebody sold u a lemon and ya still wanna use it in ur breeding but call it an orange

 

[Dankalicious]

lol not exactly. But I understand you are a high garden gnome so I'll try another analogy. I am growing lemons for the county fair lemon jamboree. Early in the spring I went to the nursery and bought a dozen lemon trees in pots with no visible fruit. The tag on them said Meyer Lemon and there was a picture of a lemon. Instead of producing lemons they produced Limes! So I have a bunch of limes now and no Lemons for the County Fair Jamboree. :mad: Well instead of throwing them away and killing the trees, I decided they were great for key lime pie.:party1: But I think it's a little fucky to be putting Lemon stickers on my key lime pies and telling people they are a strain of "Lemon" when there is nothing lemon about them at all.

 

[cocoJoe]

Again some years ago (LOL) I hit a Hindu Kush mom with OrgnKid's OGer's S1 pollen..
Yes I got a solid male from S1 seeds.
I just finished two plants from that cross and one has a lemon citrus and blueberry smell and taste.. It is outstanding in flavor and smell..
I have gotten more Blueberry out of Hindu Kush plants than DJ's seeds..
I still believe in DJ Shorts hard work for the growing community..
Also the Blue Moonshine was outstanding and potent..
Peace guys and gals

 

[Newenglander]

Win some ya lose some. List it for what it is a non blueberry smelling Dj short blueberry lineage father and whatever else. Who cares if your not charging money. A lot of his strains though required a tad of effort and organics too pull flavor and smell from them.

 

[Newenglander]

I think there is a misconception of the new generation of growers who think subcool or dj short had massive facilities or something. Fact is they were stoners banging out of few plants in extra space in their house or trailer guessing and experimenting just like most new growers do now. But the lure caught on and now it's famous. That's how it use to be. Guys doing production style facility's didn't fuck around with breeding they found a cut and blew out a self storage business that was a front for a hidden warehouse or idk a lot of other crazy shit went on. That's what's up.

 

[fishwhistle]

Happens bro,dont let it get to you,it could be worse.I popped 40 beans awhile back from a very well known and reputable breeder,from the 40 i got 18 ladies,put them in flower room and 6 weeks later fuckin herm city,all of them,fuck!
I wish my biggest problem was they didnt smell like they were supposed too,At least you can still make some kind of pie,lol.

 

[Wisher619]

from my knowledge.....with a grain of salt.....in order to present blueberry traits....said plants must be grown in organic soil with pretty much no nutes.....I have a strain that when thrown in a bucket with some organic mix and some EWC and water when needed...she gets super red/purple to black stems which you would think is deficient (which I believe is....get to that in a second) she grows perfectly fine without a beat and produces some stellar super berry smelling buds.....I have now taken her and thrown her in coco and fed nutes at 1.8 ec twice daily under a 400hps....she started out blue/black/red stemmed....quicly grow out to green....flowers started smelling of slight berries more Lemon/lime funk/musk/slight skunk

DJ Short has stated himself that when experimenting in the huge greenhouse in BC that they noticed the same thing.....Organic and natural is all good.....I am now on my flushing stage so I will see what happens once my girl becomes depleted of her stored nutes if the purpling and smell come back before the chop
DJ Short wrote that his ideal grow would be a gymnasium with high bay fixtures......lots of light but low penetration and they have to be grown organicaly literally water only according to himself and JD his son.....I Believe that goes for all his strain

 

[Dankalicious]

An old associate of mine had picked up a clone from a buddy in Flint (where DJ is from) of what he was told was "DJ Short Blueberry". The guy was a complete moron, didn't measure his nutrients just poured them into a bucket, missed watering days and didn't care, etc. The plant he had was under some of the worst stress I had ever seen. However it had a massive giant top cola that smelled like blueberry syrup. Literally the textbook aroma. Didn't have any purple even under all that stress and lockout. Needless to say he killed off the strain before I could get a cut. Should've chopped all his larf and taken it home right then and there. Still kicking myself for missing that opportunity. Can't track down his source either because they guy stopped growing it to run Querkle instead. Assuming it's still floating around Flint hopefully somewhere. Don't know if it's DJ's genetics or someone elses, but it had the real blueberry terps for sure. Under some of the worst grow conditions I have ever seen.

 

[kolah]

Was it his Blueberry strain (which I thought was extinct aka long gone aka no longer available) or was it his True Blueberry?

 

[tattoojim]

Was it his Blueberry strain (which I thought was extinct aka long gone aka no longer available) or was it his True Blueberry?

I would love to see that old blueberry again. My first real strain run, and the flavor was unreal

 

[Dankalicious]

I'm on a mission. It's floating around Flint Michigan. Hopefully without lead poisoning. I will do my best this summer to hit the clubs and track down whoever has the monster cola pheno I saw in Pontiac in 2012. Reeked like blueberry pie. I should have just ripped his larf off and shoved it in a grocery bag in my pocket. Still upset to this day. I heard through the grapevine the original source bred a querkle male to it and then stopped growing it because he liked the daughter better. So the hunt continues.

 

[Dankalicious]

Was it his Blueberry strain (which I thought was extinct aka long gone aka no longer available) or was it his True Blueberry?

 

[homebrew420]

The only REAL blueberery has been taken and bred now by others. DJ lost his male and took another route entirely. I don't realy understand what happened. Not a single report I have read claims even decent results. Meaning you buy BB in the hopes of some muffin aromas. and a pleasant light weight high.
However Do not change lineage names, leads to confusion. I resently did something similar. Brightberry cookies was the name. GSC was half of the male. Very little cookie dom plants even showed. I feel it is misrepresenting the variety created now. and canged the name to Brightberry. I too don't like to be mislead by a name. But continuity is more important in the lng run, leading to far less confusion.

Great luck in your product