Good Nutrients For Cheap Free

[skillzd]

what nutrients or what can people use that want to start out growing a little but their budget is low. Many people try miracle grow and things that they probably shouldn't. So I wanted to post this for those people. Cus in the beginning I didn't know. I still don't know what I can use locally here so this may even help me since I have to order online right now for decent nutrients. I used Humboldt Farms. Grow. Micro and Bloom this past grow. But looking for something else

 

[Og Gong]

General Hydroponics Flora series nutrients is pretty cheap and it works.

 

[skillzd]

Ok. I was actually looking at that one when i bought Humboldt's. But idk what price were anymore. I can't remember all that I need to. Let alone things like that. Lol. Maybe I'll try that one next. I was thinking about just getting the nutrients and mixing my own for Veg and another for preflower and another for flower. Even Walmart sells a few of the main ones Wel the main 3. And then I can use some other things for micro nutrients. But it's nice when you buy something pre mixed. Just measure and mix with water. Done. Lol.

 

[Welshwizzard]

I would NOT be buying my nutes from Walmart, I dont see off the shelf garden food as suitable for this. Maybe they do stock cannabis feed in Walmart?

 

[Savage Henry]

Jacks hydroponics from jr. Peters. Costs me less than a buck to fill a 35 gal resevoir.

 

[skillzd]

No I didn't mean actually buy them from there. I was saying EVEN Walmart has the nutrients like Nitrogen. By itself And then there were the other two main nutrients and a few others. But I was saying I was thinking about buying each separate nutrients and then measuring and mixing. I don't see why you couldn't of you have enough intelligence toward chemistry type stuff. Hell even cooking properly. You would just be measuring out each nutrient to make the values proper for what you need for cannabis grows. I didn't mean actually buy walmarts nutrients. Although if you buy each nutrient. I wouldn't see why walmarts nitrogen would be that different from say Humboldts nitrogen. Now each brand PREMIXED NUTRIENTS HAVE THEIR OWN MIXTURES. That's why some work better for others Like Himboldts I know one person that his plants grow amazing on the stuff. But mine I didn't notice much of a difference with it. I probably would have gotten the same result from some Walmart Grow nutrient. I just didn't see much of a result with these nutrients. But that's me. Others have had great results. I stopped using it completely on my Plants in Veg and just using dilute Superthrive and Fish nutrients and they are actually doing the same. And I think they are starting to get a little perky now too as its been 3days now and seems to finally be showing the results now and seems better. But it could have also been a certain nutrient deficiency that was starting and when I switched the others corrected it. Idk. This grow was already screwed up so my next one I just want a good set of nutrients and just am being more organized like j used to be. This was my first one in years and it was a bit sloppy getting started

 

[cemchris]

It's funny. Home Depot here sells Earth Juice and these other random nutes, coco ect. Don't knock miracle grow. I have seen someone kill it with it. At the end of the day nutes are nutes. It's how you use them.

 

[Smokey503ski]

I personally like Hydroponic Research nutrients.
Cost per gallon is low. Only one dry fert from start to finish. No seperate veg and bloom food, just the formula that matches your grow media. They have other additives but they're not necessarily needed.
PM me if anyone needs a discount on ordering.

 

[skillzd]

That's funny you mention miracle grow cus I am using a bloom nutrient but it's a generic miracle grow. It's 10-15-10. I looked again I was wrong before. I think I said 10-20-10. Anyways. I'm only using a tiny little bit at first for ONLY the plant in bloom. And I just started it and the buds seem to be growing again now. They didn't seem to be doing much and pistils were turning brown after only 2wks of Flower. It's an auto tho so idk much about it. The buds are small and just starting. Hope they beef up the last weeks. The nutrients seemed to help but I want to stay light on it since I ran out of the Humboldts A bit too early. I have some left. But I went out and got the generic miracle grow cus it was the closest to the 7-13-7 or whatever the hell it is. It's soomething close to that. I'd have to look again and add them together to see. Told ya I can't remember all the technical terms an stuff to well. Lol. Anyways. I've seen some amazing grows with miracle grow. You CAN grow with it but it take experience. You need to have a strong plant to start that can take the strength of miracle grow. Start very diluted and work up. And make sure you flush that crap out ALOT. LOL. Nasty flavor smoke I read somewhere about fruit juice and miracle grow. I'll have to find that article again. It was a while back. It was a kool article about getting the fruit flavor into the weed. Apparently the flavor binds to miracle grow and then travels up try the plant. Idk. To me it sounds like some BULL****. Lol. But hey. Who knows. I love putting starburst or jolley ranchers in with weed when it's curing. Makes a nice smell. If you grow a blueberry weed. Put blue raspberry j ranchers and hang them with the drying plants. Tons of them. Yummy and smells great. Everyone loves it

 

[Welshwizzard]

People used to do that around here. Mask shit, uncared for when grown weed with the smell of something nice, i'm ok for that though thanks man, I'm happy with the way my end stuff smells, especially after a few months in a jar.
Dont get me wrong, miracle grow may work, I personally have never heard of anyone using it when there is a more tailored nute available and I cant say I have ever seen anything that would make me go down a generic miracle grow / normal plant food. I'm in coco and love it in coco so I dont think the Miracle Grow feed would work for me. The amount of amendments I'd have to make would make it unviable, maybe as an experiment but I'm not too interested to do it

 

[skillzd]

That darn Superthrive works good for a lot of people too. So I'm trying it on a few clones to see what the result are at speeding up the clones a bit. So far nothing. I used rooting hormone powder and Superthrive in the water and not have a lot of luck rooting many clones. But I was also trying to use clippings that were from bottom and didn't matter much. And one clipping is from a Auto. One from a Trifoliate And then the others should be easy cus they are regular feminized plants One of the first ones rooted and roots were over an inch long so I stuck it in soil now. I think I may put it back into bubble tank and grow it with my other plant tho. But out of maybe 10 clippings. 6-8 were all from WWxBB plant and out of those 6-8 only one rooted. Is that normal ? I never clones before. But since I have the bubble tank for a hydro plant. I figured I might as well start. Plus i really want to clone my Trifoliate and hopefully get more trifoliates. They are so pretty and just love them. This was my first one. And get this. I was reading an article about them and thought "let me go check and see if any of mine have 3branches. And when I check I almost passed out cus one did. I didn't even notice cus it was so small but then it started fluffing up a tone and I am hooked. If I can't do it cloning then I will be learning how to make Triploids but I understand it's complicated and stressful and the substance you use can cause me to get cancer sooo. School time is in if I can't clone this bad boy!

 

[skillzd]

Yeah j know what you mean. I just used it cus it was the closest to what I had and I diluted it a lot and this is how I do it. One day is plain water. The next watering is the Humboldts in water. Then the next watering Is the miracle grow water diluted I literally only put a spindle in the whole gallon. It calls for a teaspoon I believe and I only use maybe 1/8 of that And then the next watering is plain Water again and then Humboldt and then M grow again. A cycle of it. That's just cus I am almost out of the Humboldts and I'm ordering it next week but needed to finish this grow. I didn't want to feed it just the Humboldts and then run out. So I sprayed it out and added a bit of other nutrients in between the Humboldts. So far so good.

 

[skillzd]

Oh. And yeah the jolley ranchers is t for everyone. And if it's good bomb Cannabis then I won't change the beautiful aroma it already has. But when you have a plant that doesn't turn out or something happens like it Hermes and seeds or something. It makes it taste and smell better again. I have only gotten cannabis from others that do it. It's not something I do. Unless I get something that is crappy. I may throw some in the bag so t tastes better. The weed around here sucks sometimes.

 

[skillzd]

I personally like Hydroponic Research nutrients.
Cost per gallon is low. Only one dry fert from start to finish. No seperate veg and bloom food, just the formula that matches your grow media. They have other additives but they're not necessarily needed.
PM me if anyone needs a discount on ordering.

The only thing I don't quite understand how that works is some nutrients are needed during the whol cycle. But for example Nitrogen increases around 10% when going into bloom. And phosphorus Doubles from veg to bloom. So if you use that I would think that it would need an additive when going into bloom flowering because of all the heavy changes. You would think without it that it would not be a great yield. I don't know tho. Never used it. Just going off of the science part of it. Or the common sense part of the science part of it. Lol. Something like that anyways. Doesn't that sound right? I mean I checked my facts first. But I mean my theory of how it would work to me just doesn't sound like a good yield production. With an additive I could see it tho

 

[skillzd]

Oh and I'll try homedepot to see what they have here. But are you in an area where it's legal? I'm not so places don't sell it here. I didn't happen to find a hydroponics store but it's too risky going to those places here cus it's still illegal and cops watch the places

 

[Smokey503ski]

Take a glance through this thread.
I thought the same way you did about needing different stuff at different times.
Alot of people on here have made the switch to them.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/veg-bloom-1-part-powder-in-socal-tap.44489/
And this one
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/hydroponic-research-user-thread.75909/

 

[skillzd]

Ok. I don't doubt it. I just was saying I don't understand. Because if you study the plant itself and the specifics of it and what t needs to not just survive To produce good fruits. They kind of compare it to a wild grape vine. They will survive under extremes sometimes. But the grapes won't be worth crap and won't ripen The wild grapevine will produce green grapes but unless you trim it up and take it a little the grapes will turn brown and won't get big enough to ripen or eat. But boy if you prune it up and help the plant go thru the proper process it needs to those wild grapes will turn juicy and delicious. I'm not saying the CANNIBIScannabis won't produce good fruits with those. I just will have to study how they work and how they would effect the bud growth. I'm sure there's something I don't know about them that makes it s good product or people wouldn't be using it. Let alone recommending it. So I will definately check it out. I do a lot of research. I research every little thing I do. Lol. I'm more mature than most my age. One because I use the Internet to my advantage and study a lot Two. Cause I grew up and still surround myself around the older generations and learn so much at a young age. I'm grateful for having that opportunity and j continue to surround myself around those type of people that can't help expand my knowledge too.

 

[hawkman]

Hunblots Own - comes from the "triangle" they offer sample packs

 

[skillzd]

Humboldts? Or is it hunblots. Wasn't sure if it was a typo or it really it hunblots. Lol.

 

[cemchris]

People used to do that around here. Mask shit, uncared for when grown weed with the smell of something nice, i'm ok for that though thanks man, I'm happy with the way my end stuff smells, especially after a few months in a jar.
Dont get me wrong, miracle grow may work, I personally have never heard of anyone using it when there is a more tailored nute available and I cant say I have ever seen anything that would make me go down a generic miracle grow / normal plant food. I'm in coco and love it in coco so I dont think the Miracle Grow feed would work for me. The amount of amendments I'd have to make would make it unviable, maybe as an experiment but I'm not too interested to do it

Yeah I'm a Coco guy also and have never tried it. He was using soil. Was pretty much on par with my 3 part ebb table grow. Also tasted and smelled good. He wasn't a newbie to growing though by any means which is prob why he got the results he did. Actually if I remember he was using the fert spikes you put in the soil lol. Must have had some pretty good soil to begin with. Also had a friend back in Texas that was using the Alaskan fish ferts from Depot and killed it when I first met her. When she moved to Advanced I think the qual went down a little.

Take a glance through this thread.
I thought the same way you did about needing different stuff at different times.
Alot of people on here have made the switch to them.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/veg-bloom-1-part-powder-in-socal-tap.44489/
And this one
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/hydroponic-research-user-thread.75909/

What's funny about that is Chris was here back in 2011-2012 when they were first getting into the scene and had lots of doubters here. I took the plunge and it was the tits. Hooked it up with a fat free sample. Tried getting people on it but mostly went unnoticed. Funny how things come full circle years later.

One thing people don't really know about them is:

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Chris-

FYI we do tap water formulas for any region's tap. All you have to do is send us a water sample and we will formulate specifically for that regions water. You will get as good results as if you were using RO without wasting time and water .