The Uk Awesome Member And Growers Thread

[Ecompost]

Yes, Compo Sana is preloaded peat moss based mix with added lime, quartz sand, green compost and I'm guessing or I actually read somewhere that the slow release N nutrient is based of animal manure. So it worked for me with water only until harvest when I veged for 8-9 weeks. But when started using topomax there was a big difference in buds swelling. I have seaweed but it's fucked and full of salt. So no use for it.

top max is a bunch of carbs right, its quite good really esp for soils like compo. Loads of my dutch mates use compo, always have with water only. I think they top dress a gaunokalong product around week 3-4 bloom which then gives them the final push. They also added some palm ash i think with the guano input and then just carried on with water. They grow tasty weed this way man

 

[Toaster79]

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As soil starter and I also dust the roots at transplant.

 

[Ecompost]

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As soil starter and I also dust the roots at transplant.

mycos are awesomeness. I would never grow without them now :-) I have my own, we worked long and hard to get a well balanced biology, it works great. I am just replacing great White here and in the UK with every store we visit :-) Its just better, more spores, better quality and better root mass by weight ...:-)

 

[Toaster79]

mycos are awesomeness. I would never grow without them now :) I have my own, we worked long and hard to get a well balanced biology, it works great. I am just replacing great White here and in the UK with every store we visit :) Its just better, more spores, better quality and better root mass by weight ...:)

Yep, im never ever starting a grow without this:

Mycorrhiza Soluble is a soil drench for porous soil and substrate composed of carefully selected mycorrhizal fungi and 19 bacterial species well suited to a variety of soils, climates and plants. Also included is a specially formulated natural biostimulant.

The plant enjoys improved nutrient and water uptake, and superior field performance. These fungi build a natural microbial system in and on plant roots which greatly enhance plant growth and vigour.

Ingredients and composition:
1 ml of Mycorrhiza Soluble contains approx. 1,975,042 spores of the following endo- and ectomycorrhizal fungi, as well as beneficial soil microorganisms:

Ectomycorrhizal fungi per ml:
Pisolithus tinctorius 750,000 spores, Rhizopogon villosulus 125,000 spores, Rhizopogon luteolus 125,000 spores, Rhizopogon amylopogon 125,000 spores, Rhizopogon fulvigleba 125,000 spores, Scleroderma citrinum 156,250 spores, Scleroderma cepa 156,250 spores, Suillus granulatus 156,250 spores, Suillus punctatapies 156,250 spores, Laccaria bicolor 50,000 spores, Laccaria laccata 50,000 spores

Endomycorrhizal fungi per ml:
Glomus intraradices 8 spores, Glomus mosseae 8 spores, Glomus aggregatum 8 spores, Glomus etunicatum 8 spores, Glomus clarum 2 spores, Glomus margarita 2 spores, Glomus brasilianum 2 spores, Glomus monosporum 2 spores, Glomus deserticola 2 spores

Trichodermal fungi per ml:
Trichoderma koningii 187,500 spores, Trichoderma harzianum 187,500 spores

Beneficial soil microorganisms: Contains 298,469 CFU (colony-forming units) per cc of the following species:
Bacillus subtilis, Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus azotoformans, Bacillus megaterium, Bacillus coagulans, Bacillus pumilus, Bacillus thuringiensis, Bacillus stearothermophilus, Paenibacillus polymyxa, Paenibacillus durum, Paenibacillus fluorescens, Paenibacillus gordonae, Azotobacter polymyxa, Azotobacter chroococcum, Saccharomyces cerevisiae, Streptomyces griseus, Streptomyces lydicus, Pseudomonas aureofaciens, Deinococcus erythromyxa.

 

[Desertboy]

I'm in a mix of Lidl's cheapo 80% compost, 20% fytocell and compost tea made from some old Bcuzz compost with horse shit in it and mollases add airstone and keep 25c for 1 day then feed super simple Overgrow style growing. The horse shit and compost were mixed end of last summer.

I've used Fytocell many times pure as hydro medium but trying to get it to work with organic nutrients would be a challenge but certainly doable I think. Fytocell comes in 2 versions one if ph buffered which is what I have and what you use for hydro and the other unbuffered which is only as a soil improver which is what in plant magic compost.

I'm using the buffered stuff as an improver but this is a non issue although certainly it cannot be classed as organic in the RHS definition of the term.

I'm not bothered about organic at all I smoke my weed with cigs which is full of chemicals and honestly cannot tell the difference between good organic grown weed or good hydro but bad hydro (High EC's) does taste bad whilst bad organics is probably only bad yield.

 

[Desertboy]

I have Mycortex Myco
"Mycorrhizal fungi: Beneficial fungi that live in partnership with plant roots, providing nutrition and protection. Free-living fungi: Naturally occurring fungi that help protect against pathogens and stress and degrade organic matter. Beneficial bacteria: Over 20 beneficial species and strains that help the plant collect mineral nutrients and build a healthy soil. Humates Extracts of organic matter that make nutrients biologically available. Humates are also powerful root growth stimulants. Saponins: Natural plant extract that promotes biological activity, particularly in soils low in organic content where they stimulate root development and boost the soil microbial population. Microbial feedstock: Balanced amino acids and complex carbohydrates which sustain the growth of the beneficial microbes during plant establishment."

10kg per hectare if you want to work that into old money lol it's basically plant magic granules which is rebranded Mycortex but much more expensive. You can only buy Mycortex in 10kg tubs we bought 4 (£8 a kilo I think but was a couple of years ago) but I used to be part of an allotment collective and it was wonder stuff in the ground but in pots where I fed them regularly I noticed slim to no difference.
Biotechnica told me Myco colonies take time to infect the rootzone ~12 weeks so it's only on reusing the medium for the 2nd time do you see real benefits which is why I say slim several times I noticed maybe a 3% increase after reusing the medium which was coco.

But since I do not have a sealed grow room with temps and co2 controlled to high precision any conclusions are subjective at best.

 

[Ecompost]

Yep, im never ever starting a grow without this:

Mycorrhiza Soluble is a soil drench for porous soil and substrate composed of carefully selected mycorrhizal fungi and 19 bacterial species well suited to a variety of soils, climates and plants. Also included is a specially formulated natural biostimulant.

The plant enjoys improved nutrient and water uptake, and superior field performance. These fungi build a natural microbial system in and on plant roots which greatly enhance plant growth and vigour.

Ingredients and composition:
1 ml of Mycorrhiza Soluble contains approx. 1,975,042 spores of the following endo- and ectomycorrhizal fungi, as well as beneficial soil microorganisms:

Ectomycorrhizal fungi per ml:
Pisolithus tinctorius 750,000 spores, Rhizopogon villosulus 125,000 spores, Rhizopogon luteolus 125,000 spores, Rhizopogon amylopogon 125,000 spores, Rhizopogon fulvigleba 125,000 spores, Scleroderma citrinum 156,250 spores, Scleroderma cepa 156,250 spores, Suillus granulatus 156,250 spores, Suillus punctatapies 156,250 spores, Laccaria bicolor 50,000 spores, Laccaria laccata 50,000 spores

Endomycorrhizal fungi per ml:
Glomus intraradices 8 spores, Glomus mosseae 8 spores, Glomus aggregatum 8 spores, Glomus etunicatum 8 spores, Glomus clarum 2 spores, Glomus margarita 2 spores, Glomus brasilianum 2 spores, Glomus monosporum 2 spores, Glomus deserticola 2 spores

Trichodermal fungi per ml:
Trichoderma koningii 187,500 spores, Trichoderma harzianum 187,500 spores

Beneficial soil microorganisms: Contains 298,469 CFU (colony-forming units) per cc of the following species:
Bacillus subtilis, Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus azotoformans, Bacillus megaterium, Bacillus coagulans, Bacillus pumilus, Bacillus thuringiensis, Bacillus stearothermophilus, Paenibacillus polymyxa, Paenibacillus durum, Paenibacillus fluorescens, Paenibacillus gordonae, Azotobacter polymyxa, Azotobacter chroococcum, Saccharomyces cerevisiae, Streptomyces griseus, Streptomyces lydicus, Pseudomonas aureofaciens, Deinococcus erythromyxa.

sounds good, its got a wide range of microbes, so will be good on more or less anything if you grow other crop types also

 

[Ecompost]

I'm in a mix of Lidl's cheapo 80% compost, 20% fytocell and compost tea made from some old Bcuzz compost with horse shit in it and mollases add airstone and keep 25c for 1 day then feed super simple Overgrow style growing. The horse shit and compost were mixed end of last summer.

I've used Fytocell many times pure as hydro medium but trying to get it to work with organic nutrients would be a challenge but certainly doable I think. Fytocell comes in 2 versions one if ph buffered which is what I have and what you use for hydro and the other unbuffered which is only as a soil improver which is what in plant magic compost.

I'm using the buffered stuff as an improver but this is a non issue although certainly it cannot be classed as organic in the RHS definition of the term.

I'm not bothered about organic at all I smoke my weed with cigs which is full of chemicals and honestly cannot tell the difference between good organic grown weed or good hydro but bad hydro (High EC's) does taste bad whilst bad organics is probably only bad yield.

cool I had not tried to mix the flakes in soil, but there is no reason you couldnt use it with bio organics, even tho its not itself i dont think. we have got a bag AR gave us that has peat, spag based I think. I dont know if the guys used it

 

[Toaster79]

sounds good, its got a wide range of microbes, so will be good on more or less anything if you grow other crop types also

I'm not growing other stuff but picked this product because of the variety and it's a local product on top of it. And the plants love it. They really burst after transplant with no shock whatsoever. And with BT it also keeps certain pests under control. I get gnats every summer but they don't exist even for one generation. Also brought thrips from outside last year with the outdoor clones. They did some damage but disappeared pretty quick, but I also used some lacewing larvae.

 

[Toaster79]

I have Mycortex Myco
"Mycorrhizal fungi: Beneficial fungi that live in partnership with plant roots, providing nutrition and protection. Free-living fungi: Naturally occurring fungi that help protect against pathogens and stress and degrade organic matter. Beneficial bacteria: Over 20 beneficial species and strains that help the plant collect mineral nutrients and build a healthy soil. Humates Extracts of organic matter that make nutrients biologically available. Humates are also powerful root growth stimulants. Saponins: Natural plant extract that promotes biological activity, particularly in soils low in organic content where they stimulate root development and boost the soil microbial population. Microbial feedstock: Balanced amino acids and complex carbohydrates which sustain the growth of the beneficial microbes during plant establishment."

10kg per hectare if you want to work that into old money lol it's basically plant magic granules which is rebranded Mycortex but much more expensive. You can only buy Mycortex in 10kg tubs we bought 4 (£8 a kilo I think but was a couple of years ago) but I used to be part of an allotment collective and it was wonder stuff in the ground but in pots where I fed them regularly I noticed slim to no difference.
Biotechnica told me Myco colonies take time to infect the rootzone ~12 weeks so it's only on reusing the medium for the 2nd time do you see real benefits which is why I say slim several times I noticed maybe a 3% increase after reusing the medium which was coco.

But since I do not have a sealed grow room with temps and co2 controlled to high precision any conclusions are subjective at best.

That's why biobizz grow would be better choice in combination with mycos because it's made of sugar beat and contains a lot of sugar which will feed your microorganisms. Then in grow there's only 30% of nutrients readily available to the plant and the rest 70% need to be processed by the soil which usually takes up to 3 days.

 

[Ninjasmoker]

Fags are about 4 euros . Wife just bought a few thousand to take back to uk . She smokes like a trooper , lol

In America that reads .....

Gays are about 4 euros , your wife is a pimp / people trafficker , she kills like a good 'un :)

 

[Desertboy]

That's why biobizz grow would be better choice in combination with mycos because it's made of sugar beat and contains a lot of sugar which will feed your microorganisms. Then in grow there's only 30% of nutrients readily available to the plant and the rest 70% need to be processed by the soil which usually takes up to 3 days.

I forgot to add I do add black strap mollases to my fish mix.

 

[Desertboy]

In America that reads .....

Gays are about 4 euros , your wife is a pimp / people trafficker , she kills like a good 'un :)

Also LOL means licking others lollipops which is also the context I always use it in LOL.

 

[Toaster79]

I forgot to add I do add black strap mollases to my fish mix.

I'm using Emiko sugar cane molasses.

They are specialized in microorganisms.

 

[Ecompost]

I have Mycortex Myco
"Mycorrhizal fungi: Beneficial fungi that live in partnership with plant roots, providing nutrition and protection. Free-living fungi: Naturally occurring fungi that help protect against pathogens and stress and degrade organic matter. Beneficial bacteria: Over 20 beneficial species and strains that help the plant collect mineral nutrients and build a healthy soil. Humates Extracts of organic matter that make nutrients biologically available. Humates are also powerful root growth stimulants. Saponins: Natural plant extract that promotes biological activity, particularly in soils low in organic content where they stimulate root development and boost the soil microbial population. Microbial feedstock: Balanced amino acids and complex carbohydrates which sustain the growth of the beneficial microbes during plant establishment."

10kg per hectare if you want to work that into old money lol it's basically plant magic granules which is rebranded Mycortex but much more expensive. You can only buy Mycortex in 10kg tubs we bought 4 (£8 a kilo I think but was a couple of years ago) but I used to be part of an allotment collective and it was wonder stuff in the ground but in pots where I fed them regularly I noticed slim to no difference.
Biotechnica told me Myco colonies take time to infect the rootzone ~12 weeks so it's only on reusing the medium for the 2nd time do you see real benefits which is why I say slim several times I noticed maybe a 3% increase after reusing the medium which was coco.

But since I do not have a sealed grow room with temps and co2 controlled to high precision any conclusions are subjective at best.

I would strongly disagree with the timings on symbiosis. Mycos are known antagonists of seeds, and will colonise roots from new sprouted seeds or transplants near instantly. What will happen of course is 99% of the fungal side of your product will be wasted since the associations are very specific. For example, the only Myco I have ever seen on the roots on MJ is Glomus Intraradices, whose association is triggered by the plant, this happens a whole lot faster where levels of P are low. If you have high counts of P in the media, it is unlikely the plant will send a signal for Mycos to associate at all, in which case it would be a total waste of money and any gain would more likely be a consequence of Trichoderma and other soil fungus types, Actinomycetes or the many yeasts for example.
The same applies to any included bacteria, Mycos will only form biomes with certain bacteria types, so often the mass inclusion is the same as any bulking agent.

We tested field wide barley trials inoculated with only trichoderma fungus and had a significant 35% above ground bio mass recovery improvement over non treated barley

 

[costa]

In America that reads .....

Gays are about 4 euros , your wife is a pimp / people trafficker , she kills like a good 'un :)

Ha, ha, you lads are crackers , lol

 

[Toaster79]

Regarding topmax, there's more than just the carbs in that bottle. The whole palette of micros, fulvic and humic acid

 

[Ecompost]

That's why biobizz grow would be better choice in combination with mycos because it's made of sugar beat and contains a lot of sugar which will feed your microorganisms. Then in grow there's only 30% of nutrients readily available to the plant and the rest 70% need to be processed by the soil which usually takes up to 3 days.

if you add too much Carbon by way of sugars, you may tie up N

 

[Ecompost]

Regarding topmax, there's more than just the carbs in that bottle. The whole palette of micros, fulvic and humic acid

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this is similar to Black Strap Molasses, which has a similar micro make up and is much much cheaper of course. http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/5573/2 Topmax is diluted BSM and some other bits including for example humates, which again are fairly common place although totally awesome

 

[Toaster79]

if you add too much Carbon by way of sugars, you may tie up N

Haven't run in to such problem so far. Or at least I didn't notice it.