Trying Organics With Better Organix

[oldskol4evr]

yup bang on mate

hell thats why i been using so much,,thanks bro,i knew i would finally get it,lol

 

[Ecompost]

hell thats why i been using so much,,thanks bro,i knew i would finally get it,lol

good man, 1L makes 2000L of solution in a tea mate. This equates to about 4cents per Litre of nutrient solution when made using a tea. I am all about value bro LOL

 

[oldskol4evr]

good man, 1L makes 2000L of solution in a tea mate. This equates to about 4cents per Litre of nutrient solution when made using a tea. I am all about value bro LOL

well instead of just using 15 ml of bio veg,,i can add other things like the kamino,,,i was reading te short day crop schedule,,there is one that is required every feeding to harvest,,you maintain that one and when you get to flower you alternate the veg and florete,but always use bio balance every feed

 

[oldskol4evr]

eco what is the proper way to foilar spray,,do you just give them a quick mist and go with that,,i have dried and dieing leaves everytime,,think im spraying to much,,i make sure under and over leaves are drenched,is this what im doing wrong,,i sprayed my plants and had some pretty ,shiny leaves,,2 days later though i had to replant again

 

[GrowingGreen]

OK so a 50gallon mix I would use a mix of inputs as I draw in to transition before ending with Floret in full bloom. The maths is always the same for liquid inputs in teas 50gallons H2O x 0.50% = 25ml total or 5tsp per brew. The what this 25ml is can change depending on the inputs, but its a total figure, so if you add 4tsps of KAMINO, you only have 1tsp of anything else :)

As i flip my plants, I make a tea which i foliar, this is using iNitiate and KAMINO. Its a 30/70 mix iNitiate/KAMINO. This assists the levels of cytokinins, pushes the plants internals to balance for bloom, and maintains high N levels to feed the plant as its puts on bio mass.

A small peak in to the bottles and why.
KAMINO contains both Bacterially activated Silicon and Chelated Calcium as well as Nitrogen derived from Cobalt B12. KAMINO also has Zinc, Copper, and 6% organic Potassium, all useful in promoting bloom cycle activity.
iNititate is a complex of Amino Acid fermented N, Biologically Chelated Magnesium, Iron, Boron, Manganese, Sulfur and a small amount of Potassium

Combining these products tips the plant in favor of bloom, but maintains a high and fast access to N in plant ready form. The iNititate is a super choice for fast growing plants that require moderate acid conditions. It contains humic acids and saccharides, alongside vital soil carbons. The biology in KAMINO is the brains behind the bulk iNititate brings. The microbes in KAMINO can work on all forms of N and can flip flop delivering ratios of Nitrate to Ammonia Nitrate conversion that are alnoe to maintain pace with fast growing plants and the second by second demands.

I would maintain a drench feed of Bio Veg (1ml/L- 1/5 tsp per 2.2 pints) so that you have P inputs while the plant gets ready to super boost, teamed with Bio Balance Foliar to chelate the micros in the Bio Veg and maintain overall acidity, reducing leaching, and compaction, introducing high rates of Oxygen etc, this should help keep your girls strong and green before you switch off the higher N rates in favor of sugars.
Over 50 gallons as a direct drench you would use 35tsps if you add it direct. If you brew a tea and add Bio Veg, you can drop this figure to only 5tsps of bio veg per 50 gallon tank mix.

At week 6 of 8-9 weekers, i cut the bio veg and have stopped the KAMINO/ iNititate of course. here I add Bio Floret which I tend to use as a direct feed, 3ml/L weeks 6-7 backing to half dose weeks 8-9. I dont stop adding it, I just use less as i get to the end. I am looking for a healthy fade which I tend to have by harvest most times, if you dont like this, dont back down the floret :)

hope this helps.

Solid inputs I like for bloom teas are guano and palm tree ashes, but if you add these, you might want to lessen the Bio Veg used or there might be trouble. Bio Veg more than caters for the lack of solid inputs in a poop or ash style anyway :)

The KAMINO/ iNitiate foliar i would use weekly until I got a real sign of bloom, skipping it the week I used nano Breathe of course. I always add Bio Hydrate to any foliar system, its very strong, so use 5-8 drops per litre/ 2.2 pints.

Thank you doggy, screenshotted this info, when do you not foliar feed during bloom, or is it ok to foliar anything during bloom

 

[GrowingGreen]

Mornin you guys, hope all is healthy & green I'll be on & off today as usual

This chart is for cali growers if you know any

 

[oldskol4evr]

Mornin you guys, hope all is healthy & green I'll be on & off today as usual

This chart is for cali growers if you know any

is this water rations chart?

 

[GrowingGreen]

is this water rations chart?

This is sun up sun down times for cali, dont pay attention to the cut off times thats for helicopters an aircraft

 

[Ecompost]

Thank you doggy, screenshotted this info, when do you not foliar feed during bloom, or is it ok to foliar anything during bloom

I foliar up to about week 4-5 plant depending mate. i dont foliar floret indoors, but everything else I do. reason i dont foliar floret is its sticky stuff, outdoors if I had aphids I would use it to bring in hover flies and wasps tho :-)

 

[Ecompost]

is this water rations chart?

this is good for water use ET news etc http://ccc.atmos.colostate.edu/~coagmet/extended_etr_about.php

 

[Ecompost]

eco what is the proper way to foilar spray,,do you just give them a quick mist and go with that,,i have dried and dieing leaves everytime,,think im spraying to much,,i make sure under and over leaves are drenched,is this what im doing wrong,,i sprayed my plants and had some pretty ,shiny leaves,,2 days later though i had to replant again

thats odd mate, what are you spraying them with? At what time since I know the sun is strong where you are. I usually foliar till the leaves are dripping mate. I tend to dilute foliar, even teas I reduce to 1:5 as a foliar.
Have you tried using root better as a foliar, i know this sounds odd, but RB contains some interesting microbes that are just as happy on the plant as they are in the media. The mycos wont work, but the bacteria and trichoderma do some cool things around the control of leaf stomata, gas and water recycling. Some release hydrogen peroxide for example, useful for PM and DM outbreaks. You will need to filter the carrier media from your sprayer or use a very coarse rose head or nozzle fixture, I make a stock using about 20g,which I pour in to 4L or about 1gallon of water, I then take 0.5L/1.1pints and add this to 5L/ 1.5gallons of fresh water and spray. I can do about 60m2 with this as a drench or about 16 trees foliar sprayed mate. I tend to apply this monthly or after really heavy rains before the sunshine. There are some bio control fungus that have some proper Alien action going on for leaf bitter, you need high humidity, but get it right and you can grow mini fruiting mushrooms out of the heads of dead insects bro LOL

 

[Ecompost]

well instead of just using 15 ml of bio veg,,i can add other things like the kamino,,,i was reading te short day crop schedule,,there is one that is required every feeding to harvest,,you maintain that one and when you get to flower you alternate the veg and florete,but always use bio balance every feed

Alan will be emailing you all a chart soon, hope tomorrow is the last day with the designer for the product support data etc. Its one for coco/ soil-less and one for soil :-)

 

[Ecompost]

They're swithchin to bloom what are your suggestion to kickstart them using box

yeah they look great bro. Nice work. Wait till you get those biological grown heads appearing man, they will be monsters.
If you want to cut the N down eg reduce the impacts of Bio veg but need to get some PK in, I would make a tea of bat Guano and Palm tree Ashes mate, I use about 25g of each per 5L so thats about 5tsp per 1.5 gallons as a direct PK booster that will give you about 10-14 days between applications. If you cant get this stuff, let me know and i will send you some brother.

I sent you some nano Guano I hope? If i did you can use this for your last nano spray, so week 4-5 bloom. This will give you about 2-3 weeks of PK boosting impacts. Same deal, mix 1tsp per litre/2.2pints

Foliar Bio media Pro with it mate, just 1g per gallon is plenty... why foliar BMP eco you lunatic?

Answer= Certain strains of the soil bacteria, those we've included in BMP and to some extent Root Better eg, Pseudomonas fluorescens have anti-fungal activity that inhibits some plant pathogens. P. fluorescens and other Pseudomonas and Bacillus species can increase plant growth in several ways. They may produce a compound that inhibits the growth of pathogens or reduces invasion of the plant by a pathogen. They may also produce compounds (growth factors) that directly increase plant growth.

These plant growth-enhancing bacteria occur naturally in soils, but not always in high enough numbers to have a dramatic effect., so we boost them :-) or use them to counter problems, for example, a single soil application of Bacillus amyloliquefaciens strain S13-3, added to BMP suppressed tomato bacterial wilt caused by Ralstonia solanacearum, a soilborne bacterial pathogen, through production of antibiotics augmented possibly by induction of systemic acquired resistance. Soil application also controlled tomato powdery mildew disease through induction of systemic acquired resistance. :-) Stimualting SAR and JAR in bloom is a good thing buddy, sine this directly effects the number of trichomes per cm and the levels of essential oils :-)

 

[GreenHouser]

golf now, beach next. Lovely ladies as usual @Moto. 5 different orchards on this coarse. I may or may not have snagged a few cherries an apples

 

[oldskol4evr]

thats odd mate, what are you spraying them with? At what time since I know the sun is strong where you are. I usually foliar till the leaves are dripping mate. I tend to dilute foliar, even teas I reduce to 1:5 as a foliar.
Have you tried using root better as a foliar, i know this sounds odd, but RB contains some interesting microbes that are just as happy on the plant as they are in the media. The mycos wont work, but the bacteria and trichoderma do some cool things around the control of leaf stomata, gas and water recycling. Some release hydrogen peroxide for example, useful for PM and DM outbreaks. You will need to filter the carrier media from your sprayer or use a very coarse rose head or nozzle fixture, I make a stock using about 20g,which I pour in to 4L or about 1gallon of water, I then take 0.5L/1.1pints and add this to 5L/ 1.5gallons of fresh water and spray. I can do about 60m2 with this as a drench or about 16 trees foliar sprayed mate. I tend to apply this monthly or after really heavy rains before the sunshine. There are some bio control fungus that have some proper Alien action going on for leaf bitter, you need high humidity, but get it right and you can grow mini fruiting mushrooms out of the heads of dead insects bro LOL

the neem brother,,i do the same and drench them over and under,next day all my flowers have shivelled up and day after the leaves start dying,,i do this in evening just before dark were they have all night to suck it into pours,,happens everytime,,even my medicine inside,the leaves dry to almost a crackel and never recover,doesnt harm the buds,but the leaves are like a cracker,you touch them they just fall off to ground,,reason i never do it,,did this last time becuase i found a worm type thing on top of soil,hurt my melon plants the most,they are just now putting more pretty leaves out and new flowers,,kinda sucks in a way ,i was going to prune at first fruit,and now these damn vines are about 8ft long,lmao

 

[Moto]

golf now, beach next. Lovely ladies as usual @Moto. 5 different orchards on this coarse. I may or may not have snagged a few cherries an apples

Looks fun and amazing my brother from another mother.. Make sure to snag me some pictures of them orchards.. I may or may not support your snagging of the cherries and apples. LOL :D

 

[Moto]

Sun coming up this morning and roughly 94 F and 80% RH today.. Nasty and hot.. Plants seem to be doing great.. Will Update more soon. :D

 

[Moto]

golf now, beach next. Lovely ladies as usual @Moto. 5 different orchards on this coarse. I may or may not have snagged a few cherries an apples

My Dog may or may not have heard something.. Always on patrol while playing in his water.. LOL :D

Cool Shot from random plant while working outdoors today. :D He said WHAT UPPPPPPP!!!!!

 

[oldskol4evr]

My Dog may or may not have heard something.. Always on patrol while playing in his water.. LOL :D

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Cool Shot from random plant while working outdoors today. :D He said WHAT UPPPPPPP!!!!!

that damn dog is rotten as all get out,got your ass around his paw,lmao,ya you gonna mind,give me my damn hose,turn that water on,what you say,i know i didnt hear you talking shit,with water coming all out his head,lmmfao

 

[GreenHouser]

thats odd mate, what are you spraying them with? At what time since I know the sun is strong where you are. I usually foliar till the leaves are dripping mate. I tend to dilute foliar, even teas I reduce to 1:5 as a foliar.
Have you tried using root better as a foliar, i know this sounds odd, but RB contains some interesting microbes that are just as happy on the plant as they are in the media. The mycos wont work, but the bacteria and trichoderma do some cool things around the control of leaf stomata, gas and water recycling. Some release hydrogen peroxide for example, useful for PM and DM outbreaks. You will need to filter the carrier media from your sprayer or use a very coarse rose head or nozzle fixture, I make a stock using about 20g,which I pour in to 4L or about 1gallon of water, I then take 0.5L/1.1pints and add this to 5L/ 1.5gallons of fresh water and spray. I can do about 60m2 with this as a drench or about 16 trees foliar sprayed mate. I tend to apply this monthly or after really heavy rains before the sunshine. There are some bio control fungus that have some proper Alien action going on for leaf bitter, you need high humidity, but get it right and you can grow mini fruiting mushrooms out of the heads of dead insects bro LOL

lmfao!! @ mushrooms out the brain!!!! Ha ha