Bag Seed Hunting & The Lst Adventure

[incogneato]

You know, in my experience, and I know there are people who would back me up on this, it happens quite often that freebie beans are some of the best stuff you'll ever pop. If you think about it, it kinda makes sense, these seed companies put out freebies to try and entice people to buy their seeds so, why wouldn't they put out seeds from their best stock for that?
I had a Kandy Kush freebie bean from Reserva Privada and that was hands down some of the best weed I've grown, in all honesty, if I had to choose, I think I might even say that it was the best I've had/grown, I bought two packs of them and never got anything even close to that first one. I've had other freebies that were kick ass too.
Of course, every freebie isn't going to be gold, that would be crazy, but don't just dismiss those freebies, you might kick yourself in the ass if you didn't bother to clone something that you'd want to keep. I don't know if you have much ability for hanging on to strains anyway I guess.
I know I still haven't stopped beating myself up over not cloning back when I had 2 or 3 different things I've had. Damn it. :banghead:

At least you saved me from making the same mistake. Takes clones until I'm sure of what I've got, check.

 

[rmoltis]

I will not dismiss any freebies.
Just like I don't dismiss my bagseed's.
I love knowing contained within each could be a real gem.

My environment and nutes are the same from grow to grow. So really the fluctuations will be depending upon genetics.

I don't know if you have much ability for hanging on to strains anyway I guess.

I would love to be able to hold onto strains better. But with my limited space that is hard.

Plus I have so many seeds to pop it just sounds easier to pop them. I'm pretty sure that by the time I start popping awesome genetics I'll have a set up more capable of holding onto special ladies.

But remember I have 13-16 years worth of seeds to pop already . I can't hold onto them forever or I'd never get through em all.

 

[incogneato]

I will not dismiss any freebies.
Just like I don't dismiss my bagseed's.
I love knowing contained within each could be a real gem.

My environment and nutes are the same from grow to grow. So really the fluctuations will be depending upon genetics.



I would love to be able to hold onto strains better. But with my limited space that is hard.

Plus I have so many seeds to pop it just sounds easier to pop them. I'm pretty sure that by the time I start popping awesome genetics I'll have a set up more capable of holding onto special ladies.

But remember I have 13-16 years worth of seeds to pop already . I can't hold onto them forever or I'd never get through em all.

That's if nothing else catches your eye between now and then.....unlikely

 

[rmoltis]

Big bagseed #1

Big bagseed #2

SDXQ #1

SDXQ #2

 

[incogneato]

Big bagseed #1
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Big bagseed #2
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SDXQ #1
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SDXQ #2
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They're getting frosty! We need smell-o-vision!

 

[jumpincactus]

They're getting frosty! We need smell-o-vision!

LOL I have said that so many times. Now not to be a sicko, but imagine how that could backfire if you were prone to hanging on porn sites. Ewwwwwwww :puke2: Bud porn only!!!!!! :fire::smoking:

 

[jumpincactus]

Big bagseed #1
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Big bagseed #2
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SDXQ #1
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SDXQ #2
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I would ask on those sdubbs x Q what smells are 1 & 2 putting out. Dont be afraid to do a stem rub for terpene check, the gurlz love it. :D

 

[jumpincactus]

Hey @rmoltis just got off the phone with the shop my Shelby will be 468.00 total. it was the alternator after all.

WTF are they using gold plated parts. Geeesssh

 

[incogneato]

LOL I have said that so many times. Now not to be a sicko, but imagine how that could backfire if you were prone to hanging on porn sites. Ewwwwwwww :puke2: Bud porn only!!!!!! :fire::smoking:

Lmao!! Definitely need to be an on/off switch for the smell-o-vision :cry:

 

[jumpincactus]

Most def :)

 

[rmoltis]

So upon close inspection of my SDXQ #1. I noticed what look to be seeds scattered over all 4 cola's.

The weirdest thing this is.

This is the only plant in the tent with any seeds.

There are 0 male flowers to be found on all 4 ladies.

No male flowers have ever grown in enough to ever drop pollen in this tent.

Is it possible for a plant to produce all these seeds without pollination?

It's hard to think that with a fan blowing only 1 out of 4 plants got seeded. I mean I thoroughly checked all 4 plants no male flowers.

She wasn't completely seeded. It looks as though she has plenty of quality flower to smoke there to.

Any opinions on this anyone?
I have an intake filter to the tent and our house stays sealed from the outside.

 

[incogneato]

So upon close inspection of my SDXQ #1. I noticed what look to be seeds scattered over all 4 cola's.

The weirdest thing this is.

This is the only plant in the tent with any seeds.

There are 0 male flowers to be found on all 4 ladies.

No male flowers have ever grown in enough to ever drop pollen in this tent.

Is it possible for a plant to produce all these seeds without pollination?

It's hard to think that with a fan blowing only 1 out of 4 plants got seeded. I mean I thoroughly checked all 4 plants no male flowers.

She wasn't completely seeded. It looks as though she has plenty of quality flower to smoke there to.

Any opinions on this anyone?
I have an intake filter to the tent and our house stays sealed from the outside.

Got any pics?

 

[MT.4Lready]

mouth watering frost on that bag seed; loved the 3wk hairs shooting.
Nice grow space, filled out well.

All the best in your recovery.
maybe cbd oil? idk.

--
DoubleStuffed? - ohhh om nomnomnom. mouth swass
Blue Suede Ribbon - What a lineage. I'm eager to see this strain.
I'd like to read your opinions about blueberry down the road.


What a list overall, not a stretch of the imagination to say you'll find your fire out of these seeds.

Peace

 

[jumpincactus]

So upon close inspection of my SDXQ #1. I noticed what look to be seeds scattered over all 4 cola's.

The weirdest thing this is.

This is the only plant in the tent with any seeds.

There are 0 male flowers to be found on all 4 ladies.

No male flowers have ever grown in enough to ever drop pollen in this tent.

Is it possible for a plant to produce all these seeds without pollination?

It's hard to think that with a fan blowing only 1 out of 4 plants got seeded. I mean I thoroughly checked all 4 plants no male flowers.

She wasn't completely seeded. It looks as though she has plenty of quality flower to smoke there to.

Any opinions on this anyone?
I have an intake filter to the tent and our house stays sealed from the outside.

I opted not to like your post as it always sux to find a roadblock in what was a perfect grow.

My only input is, even with your due diligence in scanning for nanners/nutsax. Somehow you missed somethin along the line. Dont let it get you down too much tho. Even seeded, there are many options, and all is not lost.

I am a little confused tho, as I can't say I have ever seen this happen since there is typically a nut sack or a nanner present. If that pheno had ballz u may have missed, you would think with a small tent and air flow that all the galz would have gotten some jizz as well.

I'm calling out my favorite Weed Whisperer @thunderfudge to maybe pipe in and offer some insight. Only other factor I can think of and these are easier to miss is, nanners. You have to look real close to catch them and are a little more covert than male pollen sacks.

Like I said tho, you can still utilize the material for personal stash. When a strain is fire you can have seeds and still have good smoke. As you are growing for head stash, it doesnt matter, since you will keep it for yourself.

I will say this in closing, don't let it get you down. Show me a grower that hasn't had this happen. And I will show you someone who doesn't grow, or they can't be honest. Happens to the best of us........ Peace

 

[rmoltis]

None of this has me down.

I'm just curious how in a 2x2 space where plants are touching and have wind flow. If there was pollen present they'd all be hit.

Not just 1 outta 4.

No nanners or pods
This is just plain odd.

Is it possible for a plant to create the seeds without being pollinated (seeds not viable)?

Cause I swear thee plants are still small enough to examine thoroughly.
You'd be scratching your head if you were here too.

 

[MT.4Lready]

Well this is a different scneraio, I had given a cut of a Black Afgani Kush to my bro, he scrogged out a table of clones in hydro, in my estimation possibly his fresh air intake was too cold at night. The lower portion of the crop seeded while the tops remained untouched. Seeing this i assumed anyway that the stress of cooler air perpetuated nanners to show up. I think about wk 5-6+ we'd maybe discovered it (memory is hazy). What im getting to, is that with dense enough nugs already on the bud, nanners may not make it to the surface to be identified?

Just my minor experience with self-seeding situations... albeit not as much of a mystery as your setup,
Is it possible the plant has gone through any other stress that the others havent?

Heres to hoping for sin semilla.

 

[rmoltis]

Just my minor experience with self-seeding situations... albeit not as much of a mystery as your setup,
Is it possible the plant has gone through any other stress that the others havent?

Heres to hoping for sin semilla.

Everything that has been done stress wize is in my journal and applies to all 4 ladies.

But if I were to list them in order I'd say

Veg training
1.) First topping (along with branch manipulation for canopy management)
2.) Second topping (with canopy management^)
3.) Defoliating lower leaves and branches during mainlining training.

Once trained I flipped to flower.
No stress for first 3 weeks until I defoliated leaves off all 4 plants top %50 of branches.

Then at the last day of week 6 I defoliated the remaining lower half of all the ladies. Most of the leaves were very yellow and dying/wilting. They all pulled off easily with a light tug.

Watering/feeding consists of.

I feed nutrients until the soil is drenched but with minimal runoff (keep it close to 0 runoff). After watering I use the pot weight to determine when they need more usually it's 2-3 days later. But then I rotate between feed/water/feed/water etc.

I aerate my nutrients for a day or 2 before feeding so the microbes populate the jug & make things more bio available. While dissolved oxygen raises the ph closer to neutral and keeps anaerobic bacteria alive.
I also stay on the lower side of any feeding charts.

All 4 plants have been on diminishing light schedule since seedlings through the end of flower. But my photoperiod changes are all small (15mins a week in flower) and applied over a long period of time.

I'm sure there's a chance maybe a nanners never fully emerged from the flower. But I've kept a watchful eye on them throughout the whole cycle. Never to see a thing.

If there were any nanners or pollen sacs. Wouldn't it have pollinated every other plant too? I mean the clip on fan is pointed right In front of the plant in question.

Could the clip on fan have stressed the plant? It is positioned above the canopy line blowing towards the tent center keeping the canopy cool from the light created off the cooltube.

Here is a closeup shot of the SDXQ #1. It was already posted above^ but I noticed it has a potential seed in the picture.

 

[incogneato]

There can't be seeds without pollination so as crazy as it is there is a source of pollen somewhere. Probably as MT mentioned a hidden manner somewhere.

 

[thunderfudge]

So it takes 4-5 weeks for a seed to fully mature,any hiccups 2-3 weeks ago?nature will always find a way and unfortunately it only takes one sack to really mess stuff up.
I always search right at the bottom of the main cola in the middle of the secondaries.4 weeks is usually the period where intersexing happens most in my experience.
I'd wet everything down and turn up the heat and the fans to kill any pollen that might be floating around.
You still have some great rosin or bubble material there

 

[jumpincactus]

None of this has me down.

I'm just curious how in a 2x2 space where plants are touching and have wind flow. If there was pollen present they'd all be hit.

Not just 1 outta 4.

No nanners or pods
This is just plain odd.

Is it possible for a plant to create the seeds without being pollinated (seeds not viable)?

Cause I swear thee plants are still small enough to examine thoroughly.
You'd be scratching your head if you were here too.

I agree I'm still scratchin