Your Experience With Big Time Exterminator?

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I purchased 15 gallons of the Big Time exterminator, the 30% stronger mix.

Today we mixed up 30 gallons @40 mil a gallon. PH was 4.4 so we used PH up, oops now its 6.4 no worries.

The reason I'm asking is I'm checking out how the Colorado green houses are doing with all organic pesticide regulations, same as I am now.
You mix up huge barrels and then spray every day?

Not asking in the general forum, hope that's ok, I was told Colorado purchases BTE and I'm using it as my "routine" spray, bugs or not it gets a bath once a week with BTE.
 
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I purchased 15 gallons of the Big Time exterminator, the 30% stronger mix.

Today we mixed up 30 gallons @40 mil a gallon. PH was 4.4 so we used PH up, oops now its 6.4 no worries.

The reason I'm asking is I'm checking out how the Colorado green houses are doing with all organic pesticide regulations, same as I am now.
You mix up huge barrels and then spray every day?

Not asking in the general forum, hope that's ok, I was told Colorado purchases BTE and I'm using it as my "routine" spray, bugs or not it gets a bath once a week with BTE.
Hey guy, I apologize if I ruined your day earlier. I think you have a better chance of useful input if you can clarify what you are looking for. I think this site is geared towards the non-commercial side of the medical and recreational marijuana industry. I'm certain there are many members who are employed at all levels in the industry, but I'm not certain they will be open to sharing. I have a family friend who is an inventory control manager at one of the shops that sells a lot of clones, his reply to my query of, 'Do any of the grows attached to your employer use BTE?' was, 'what the fuck is bte'. This might say more about that particular business than it does about pesticide use, but I thought it was interesting enough to share.

I'm not sure that there are very many members here who are in charge of a commercial garden 'greenhouse?' which would likely include a pest management protocol. It seems like you are looking for advice from those who have experience using the BTE you mentioned, but I am not certain as your query is confusing. Specifically, 'I was told Colorado purchases BTE...'. Are you saying that someone told you 'Colorado', as in the state, purchases a product for an industry? Who writes that check? Or do you mean 'Colorado Marijuana Commercial Medical and/or Recreational Industry businesses purchase BTE and I am looking for first hand experience with this product.'

Are you looking for information like the MSDS?
BTE is Citric Acid

A quick and simple search of the googles reveals this:
-https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/agplants/pesticides
The Colorado Department of Agriculture's Pesticides Program regulates the distribution and use of pesticides in the state to prevent adverse impacts to the public and the environment.
The Pesticides Program has three sections:
Pesticide Certification & Licensing Program, [URL='https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/agplants/pesticides#']Pesticide Enforcement, and [URL='https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/agplants/pesticides#']Pesticide Registration Program[/URL][/URL]
***I do not see 'organic' anywhere which is why I am confused at your question.

I think this link might even help more:
-https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/agplants/pesticide-use-cannabis-production-information
"Pesticide Applicators' Act Rules Associated with the User of Pesticides in the Production of Cannabis
Effective March 30, 2016

The Colorado Department of Agriculture has adopted Rules that set forth the criteria by which pesticides are allowed for use in the cultivation of Cannabis in Colorado. These Rules are effective March 30, 2016. The two links below provide the factual and policy basis for the Rules and the Rule language itself."

More at that link:
The list developed by CDA is intended to assist Colorado Cannabis growers in identifying which pesticides can be used legally in accordance with the Pesticide Applicators' Act and its Rules in the production of Cannabis (marijuana and industrial hemp), it is not an endorsement or recommendation to use these products in the production of Cannabis in Colorado. These products have not been tested to determine their health effects if used on Cannabis that will be consumed and thus the health risks to consumers is unknown. by including products on this list, therefore, CDA make no assurances of their safety or effectiveness when used on Cannabis and is not responsible or liable for any such use.

To view or download the current list, click the link below:

Pesticides allowed for use in Cannabis production in accordance with the PAA Rule: Effective August 29th, 2016-

Page 4/23 of the referenced document lists BTE. I will copy/paste for you.
Product- Big Time Exterminator
Company- Apogee Garden Products Inc
EPA Number- 25(b)
Active Ingredients- Citric Acid
Percent- 0.050% [note-there is no entry for 'the 30% stronger mix']
Commercial- Yes
Personal use- Yes
Hemp- Yes
Type- Fungicide, Insecticide

Further:
Selected Examples of pesticides that cannot be used in marijuana production January 13 2016
-pdf document located at link.

I hope you find this useful in the event that a member or other poster doesn't chime in with their personal experience using BTE in Colorado greenhouses.
 
The Humanure

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Im in Norcal and we are slowly joining the 21st century so its nice to ask people already there.
as Colorado said "we are going to eat Californians lunch" on cannabis and hemp production.

Iv been using 40 mils a gallon with no coco wet. Its supposed to h ave it. (Big time exterminator)


LocalGrowGuy just found your post, yes i'm looking into how legitimate Colorado greenhouses are doing IPM, The 30% stronger is geared for commercial professional growers, you need to special order it and it appears to wreck russet mites for the most part. That and a dose of green clean.

We are all trying to learn to go 100% organic for the organic certifications, that dont exist yet.

Im told chitin effects metabolic effectors and also makes legs fall off mites.

I READ TO MUCH!@#%$$%$
 
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The Humanure

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Dang, I googled my own post.
Paint sprayer, Big time exterminator.
Rock and roll.
 
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