Bag Seed Hunting & The Lst Adventure

[rmoltis]

Today is day 7 of flower.
Here are some pics before lights on.

They are doing great.
Many places of fresh new green growth. Flowers are barely starting to form.

I did a heavy defoliation today. The canopy was much to dense to allow any light through.

I'll take some lights off pictures next chance I get. The hps light just makes pictures look bad.

The defoliation exposed a lot of potential growth tips/side shoots to the light. Hopefully allowing them to fill in during the stretch phase.

I made a smoothie of some fan leaves and milk. There are a ton of leaves so the remainders are in the fridge. I will spread out their useage. Like a medication.

 

[rmoltis]

Got a gift basket sent to me from the owner of the company I work/worked for.

Wishing me well from their family.
It was a very nice gesture. Not so much due to the material items. More the fact that I knew they were thinking of me.

Got my bill today from surgery.

Before insurance is was $10k.
After insurance $822.

I think that is a reasonable deal.
I initially thought it would be between $1.5k-4k.


That means I could afford more seeds ;).

I forsee seeds becoming collectable in the near future.

Even today just look at the countless examples of people reliving their old days saying "damn I wish that strain was still around. Why didn't someone save it?" Or auctions of old seed packs going for crazy $$'s

Locking down genetics from this point in time guarantees you will have some later desirable exclusive genetics.

For example I just bought the last pack of a strain the other day at attitude.
Made me glad I bought it when I did.

This could be seen as an investment in my hobby.
Or
just an investment for the future.

No matter what I choose to do with my collection I will be prosperous.

I do foresee in the future.
A point where the big companies want to keep elite genetics out of the consumers hands to help funnel $profits into their recreational business models.

Why would people buy elite flowers when they could grow those same genetics for pennies on the dollar?

So before the revolution explodes, and things like genetic mixing speed up faster and faster. To the point where original breeds will fade into the past. Also before prices on everything skyrocket.

I suggest people invest now while the industry is still blooming. I don't want to look back 10-20 years from now after watching an auction of some seeds on antiques roadshow for a ridiculous price lol, and say "damn I could have bought those cheap back then".

Time is changing peeps. Invest in your future.

I'm thinking getting 2 more tga strains because attitude has for each 10 pack of tga genetics you get 6 tga freebies of a strain looks like a tester. It is named

Royal Pheonix X Querkle
Genetics: Urkle x Chernobyl X Querkle

So if I get 2 packs of theirs I'll get 12 seeds of that (which is a full breeders pack) plus I'd get 10 freebies attitude gives with every order from being over a certain $ amount.

So for $200 I could have 42 seeds 3 breeders packs & 10 extras (I'd count the 12 tga freebies as 1 breeders pack)
Here is a cart showing what I could get.

I'm interested in the jilly bean after seeing some grows of it.
Second is vortex ( because it was a cup winner).

I gotta say guys attitude seedbank is on point with their freebies/promotional offers. So far my favorite seedbank.

 

[jumpincactus]

Especially liked that package with the little sack of "Nut Crunch". Seems appropriate considering where your surgery was!!!! :) It was a nice gesture from your employer. Treasure it for what it is, as most contractors wouldn't have done that. The company I work for didnt even take up a collection for one of our painters that just lost his dad to cancer. Then went on to dock his time for the few days he took off as we dont get paid vacations. So this was refreshing to see and hear about. There are some good people out there. Glad your feeling better.

Be careful of the seed addiction it can really get a hold of you. Believe me I know. :D There is more to life than hoarding seeds. You wont ever get to pop all of them in your lifetime. PS was just thinking out loud you dont have to go on a rant to justify your actions. I understand. :) Was just sayn........... No defense necassary

 

[incogneato]

Got a gift basket sent to me from the owner of the company I work/worked for.
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Wishing me well from their family.
It was a very nice gesture. Not so much due to the material items. More the fact that I knew they were thinking of me.

Got my bill today from surgery.

Before insurance is was $10k.
After insurance $822.

I think that is a reasonable deal.
I initially thought it would be between $1.5k-4k.


That means I could afford more seeds ;).

I forsee seeds becoming collectable in the near future.

Even today just look at the countless examples of people reliving their old days saying "damn I wish that strain was still around. Why didn't someone save it?" Or auctions of old seed packs going for crazy $$'s

Locking down genetics from this point in time guarantees you will have some later desirable exclusive genetics.

For example I just bought the last pack of a strain the other day at attitude.
Made me glad I bought it when I did.

This could be seen as an investment in my hobby.
Or
just an investment for the future.

No matter what I choose to do with my collection I will be prosperous.

I do foresee in the future.
A point where the big companies want to keep elite genetics out of the consumers hands to help funnel $profits into their recreational business models.

Why would people buy elite flowers when they could grow those same genetics for pennies on the dollar?

So before the revolution explodes, and things like genetic mixing speed up faster and faster. To the point where original breeds will fade into the past. Also before prices on everything skyrocket.

I suggest people invest now while the industry is still blooming. I don't want to look back 10-20 years from now after watching an auction of some seeds on antiques roadshow for a ridiculous price lol, and say "damn I could have bought those cheap back then".

Time is changing peeps. Invest in your future.

I'm thinking getting 2 more tga strains because attitude has for each 10 pack of tga genetics you get 6 tga freebies of a strain looks like a tester. It is named

Royal Pheonix X Querkle
Genetics: Urkle x Chernobyl X Querkle

So if I get 2 packs of theirs I'll get 12 seeds of that (which is a full breeders pack) plus I'd get 10 freebies attitude gives with every order from being over a certain $ amount.

So for $200 I could have 42 seeds 3 breeders packs & 10 extras (I'd count the 12 tga freebies as 1 breeders pack)
Here is a cart showing what I could get.
View attachment 640869

I'm interested in the jilly bean after seeing some grows of it.
Second is vortex ( because it was a cup winner).

I gotta say guys attitude seedbank is on point with their freebies/promotional offers. So far my favorite seedbank.

Jilly bean is one of the first packs I bought myself, I'm also looking at a few more of his strains myself.

 

[incogneato]

Especially liked that package with the little sack of "Nut Crunch". Seems appropriate considering where your surgery was!!!! :) It was a nice gesture from your employer. Treasure it for what it is, as most contractors wouldn't have done that. The company I work for didnt even take up a collection for one of our painters that just lost his dad to cancer. Then went on to dock his time for the few days he took off as we dont get paid vacations. So this was refreshing to see and hear about. There are some good people out there. Glad your feeling better.

Be careful of the seed addiction it can really get a hold of you. Believe me I know. :D There is more to life than hoarding seeds. You wont ever get to pop all of them in your lifetime. PS was just thinking out loud you dont have to go on a rant to justify your actions. I understand. :) Was just sayn........... No defense necassary

:cry::cool:Bean hoarders anonymous..

 

[rmoltis]

Today I may be looked at funny.

But years from now when your asking where that one strain went.

I'll breathe on my nails, wipe them on my shirt, & say I got those:eyepiece: :love1::party1:.

Then I'd turn to @jumpincactus and say hey you get those cuts from those seeds I planted Noone has? And he'd be like :mushtache:yup!

But right now I'm hooked.
It's like collecting trading cards.

 

[incogneato]

Today I may be looked at funny.

But years from now when your asking where that one strain went.

I'll breathe on my nails, wipe them on my shirt, & say I got those:eyepiece: :love1::party1:.

Then I'd turn to @jumpincactus and say hey you get those cuts from those seeds I planted Noone has? And he'd be like :mushtache:yup!

But right now I'm hooked.
It's like collecting trading cards.

I window shop for beans every day lol. I think I'll treat myself soon as I found some nice bodhi gear for a good price. Definitely not judging as I feel I'm right behind you.

 

[jumpincactus]

Today I may be looked at funny.

But years from now when your asking where that one strain went.

I'll breathe on my nails, wipe them on my shirt, & say I got those:eyepiece: :love1::party1:.

Then I'd turn to @jumpincactus and say hey you get those cuts from those seeds I planted Noone has? And he'd be like :mushtache:yup!

But right now I'm hooked.
It's like collecting trading cards.

I knew you would not be able to resist defending your quest. :p Got you hook, line & sinker. He He No worries man. And hell if you collect enough seeds are high in protein and we can always eat em if the end dayz come. Nawwww we would prolly pop em and smoke em up.

 

[rmoltis]

If you collect enough seeds are high in protein and we can always eat em if the end dayz come. Nawwww we would prolly pop em and smoke em up.

We could eat them, but with the small quantity there would be minimal nutritional value. We would see more value to society by growing them out.

 

[jumpincactus]

I wanted to check in and let you know that the 2 RBS bag seeds I popped are confirmed males. At time of flip they both were approx 23" in height very healthy and for males had a very, very strong terpene profile of citrus fuel, gas funk. As there was no way to determine strain origin I opted to just cull them. I didn't take any pics as Mom and I have Sophia ( granddaughter) this weekend and I have to keep things low key.

Based on the terp profile alone I will be popping more to see what gems may be in the sack.

At this point it looks like the JH, CB and SLP are all females. So 8 out of 10 not a bad ratio. They are only 10 days into flower so this count may change as their sex becomes more verified, but at this point it looks like the remainder are gurlz.

 

[rmoltis]

I wanted to check in and let you know that the 2 RBS bag seeds I popped are confirmed males. At time of flip they both were approx 23" in height very healthy and for males had a very, very strong terpene profile of citrus fuel, gas funk. As there was no way to determine strain origin I opted to just cull them. I didn't take any pics as Mom and I have Sophia ( granddaughter) this weekend and I have to keep things low key.

Based on the terp profile alone I will be popping more to see what gems may be in the sack.

At this point it looks like the JH, CB and SLP are all females. So 8 out of 10 not a bad ratio. They are only 10 days into flower so this count may change as their sex becomes more verified, but at this point it looks like the remainder are gurlz.

That sucks I was hoping at least 1 was a lady.

I've so far popped 8 bagseed 1 runted died. 4 males/3 females.

You've had 2 males so the new ratio is
6 males/3 females.

I wish you luck on your mystery bagseed mix. There's a wide assortment of unknown phenotypes In there.

I have many more to run through myself. I've thought about running 9 plants in 1 gallon pots into a 3×3 grid.
Each plant would have 4 tops.

That for sure would help me run through them.

 

[rmoltis]

Hey guys sorry I've been slacking on the updates. I keep attempting to take photo's while the lights are off. Yet I keep spacing out and missing my window of opportunity lol.

This Saturday will be the end of week 3 flower. The ladies are setting their flowers quite quickly as of now. They have bounced back from defoliation quite well already.

I've noticed running hps for flower compared to the mh. That the flower nodes are developing tighter/closer together.

The mh run had internodal distances of up to "4.

This hps run has internodal spacing almost touching each other.

I though everyone said mh produced closer internodal distances? Just another myth I guess based on this b2b test.

Nice to be wading through all the b.s. on my way towards the truth.

I will get pics up sometime between now and Saturday (whenever I get my timing right).

 

[incogneato]

I was wondering where the updates were. How are you helping up brother?

 

[rmoltis]

I was wondering where the updates were. How are you helping up brother?

Better everyday.

Today I felt particularly good when I woke up. Getting out of bed has been the worst compared to other things on a daily basis. But today it wasn't that bad.

I tried laying on my side this morning which I did for about 5 mins before it got uncomfortable.

I can carefully squat or lunge to get lower/closer to floor when I need to.

I can carefully sit up in my chair and stand up without using my arms to assist. I gotta be careful with that though because if I'm not thinking I may try to get up to quickly acting like before I was opened up. Those fast jerking motions are the bad ones.

The belly swelling is going down each day. Abdomen is slowly returning to its normal flatness. I can see my upper abs again.

I have to eat small stuff throughout the day rather than meals. The swelling of my abdomen along with filling your stomach with food along with your slower gastrointestinal tract can increase the feeling of pressure+pain in the area.

Reducing my portions as well as reduced abdominal swelling has alleviated a lot of that lately. As well as it has maintained my weight throughout recovery. My avg weight is 175lbs. Before surgery I was 180lbs (I ate a lot that week lol) after 1 week post surgery I was down to 169lbs. Once eating and pooping got back on track. I bounced back to 175lbs.

Everything is on the up and up.

Here is my cycle of healing+feeling.

The more I heal,
The better I feel.

The better I feel,
The happier I am.

The happier I am,
The faster I heal.



My behavior has been much more upbeat and happy the last week or so.

This is how I start to feel once the major part healing process finishes up and I start to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Today is the end of week 4.
Goal to hit for return to normal activities (for the most part) is 2-4 more weeks.

I'm gonna have the wifey break out the treadmill when she gets home today and I'm gonna begin my own physical therapy (they dont do pt for hernia recovery) by doing some slow walking for as long/far as I can.

I figured if I'm feeling good today. That's my sign to begin pushing a little bit.

I want to resume activities outside of the house. Some days I feel very confined. But I'm on the right path to recovery. Things will be back to normal in no time.

 

[rmoltis]

On a side note. The wife brought me back some tortuga rum cake from her cruise. I'm not big on sweets usually unless I have a craving for it.

She brought home the 6 pack sampler. Each cake was 4oz. Flavors were original, coconut, keylime, banana, chocolate, pineapple.

After trying one with her the first night I was hooked. My mind was craving it so I though just one more...

Within 24hrs all 6 cakes were gone.

And I was fiending for more. I was addicted lol. So I ordered 1 of each of my favorite flavors in the 33oz cake size (original, chocolate, banana).

They should arrive on Thursday or Friday :D.

I thought all their flavors were good.
Most of them had the same cake flavor. The flavor change I think was based on the rum flavoring added. Except for the chocolate cake it was a different cake (not golden).


Maybe I'll send @jumpincactus one for the holidays. That is if I don't eat it first.

 

[incogneato]

On a side note. The wife brought me back some tortuga rum cake from her cruise. I'm not big on sweets usually unless I have a craving for it.

She brought home the 6 pack sampler. Each cake was 4oz. Flavors were original, coconut, keylime, banana, chocolate, pineapple.

After trying one with her the first night I was hooked. My mind was craving it so I though just one more...

Within 24hrs all 6 cakes were gone.

And I was fiending for more. I was addicted lol. So I ordered 1 of each of my favorite flavors in the 33oz cake size (original, chocolate, banana).

They should arrive on Thursday or Friday :D.

I thought all their flavors were good.
Most of them had the same cake flavor. The flavor change I think was based on the rum flavoring added. Except for the chocolate cake it was a different cake (not golden).


Maybe I'll send @jumpincactus one for the holidays. That is if I don't eat it first.

Better everyday.

Today I felt particularly good when I woke up. Getting out of bed has been the worst compared to other things on a daily basis. But today it wasn't that bad.

I tried laying on my side this morning which I did for about 5 mins before it got uncomfortable.

I can carefully squat or lunge to get lower/closer to floor when I need to.

I can carefully sit up in my chair and stand up without using my arms to assist. I gotta be careful with that though because if I'm not thinking I may try to get up to quickly acting like before I was opened up. Those fast jerking motions are the bad ones.

The belly swelling is going down each day. Abdomen is slowly returning to its normal flatness. I can see my upper abs again.

I have to eat small stuff throughout the day rather than meals. The swelling of my abdomen along with filling your stomach with food along with your slower gastrointestinal tract can increase the feeling of pressure+pain in the area.

Reducing my portions as well as reduced abdominal swelling has alleviated a lot of that lately. As well as it has maintained my weight throughout recovery. My avg weight is 175lbs. Before surgery I was 180lbs (I ate a lot that week lol) after 1 week post surgery I was down to 169lbs. Once eating and pooping got back on track. I bounced back to 175lbs.

Everything is on the up and up.

Here is my cycle of healing+feeling.

The more I heal,
The better I feel.

The better I feel,
The happier I am.

The happier I am,
The faster I heal.



My behavior has been much more upbeat and happy the last week or so.

This is how I start to feel once the major part healing process finishes up and I start to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Today is the end of week 4.
Goal to hit for return to normal activities (for the most part) is 2-4 more weeks.

I'm gonna have the wifey break out the treadmill when she gets home today and I'm gonna begin my own physical therapy (they dont do pt for hernia recovery) by doing some slow walking for as long/far as I can.

I figured if I'm feeling good today. That's my sign to begin pushing a little bit.

I want to resume activities outside of the house. Some days I feel very confined. But I'm on the right path to recovery. Things will be back to normal in no time.

Good to hear brotha. Walking is supposed to be really good for recovery. Good to hear you have a positive mindset as I also believe the power of positivity is important. Maybe you're fresh harvest is helping you in that dept? Depending on how good the cake is I doubt jumpincactus will complain about a half eaten cake lmao.

 

[rmoltis]

Good to hear brotha. Walking is supposed to be really good for recovery. Good to hear you have a positive mindset as I also believe the power of positivity is important. Maybe you're fresh harvest is helping you in that dept? Depending on how good the cake is I doubt jumpincactus will complain about a half eaten cake lmao.

Yeah walking they say is great for you. But during the past 4 weeks it's been tough to walk a lot. Could only do little bits at a time before I had to return to my chair for a rest.

I make sure to walk whenever I can. Like to refill my water, get a snack, go to the bathroom etc. Sometimes I just get up and walk because I know it's good for me. Just haven't gone far yet.

As the swelling goes down I find it easier and easier to walk. So I can do a little more and more each day.
I'm just not ready to leave the house yet. I need to be close to a chair with handles for my arms to assist if needed and a restroom.

I do believe a big part of the positive mindset is a result of the recent harvest. It has helped me immensely. Mostly by alleviating the mental weight of this all.

I also have been making leaf smoothies from when I defoliated. they helped quite a bit.

What a wonderful medicine.

Depending on how good the cake is I doubt jumpincactus will complain about a half eaten cake lmao.

You must not have tried the tortuga rum cakes yet. I suggest buying 1 of their smallest 4oz original cakes online to try maybe $7- $8. Like here.


They're great.

You'd see then why the cake wouldn't just be half eaten.

It would be gone lol.

 

[rmoltis]

I was gonna post about the seeds I received in the mail yesterday & today.

Breeders packs;
Brothers Grimm c99
Ace Seeds tikal
T.h. Seeds The Hog
Serious Seeds White Russian

Freebies
4 reserva privada tangie
4 WOS Afghan Kush
4 WOS Wild Thai
4 Med Man Brand Rock star Kush
4 Emerald Triangle Sour lemon OG
8 Brothers Grimm purple urkle (purple urkle × p75)
2 Serious Seeds Serious Happiness
2 T.H. Seeds Chicle


I have 1 more order on its way within the day or 2

It will be

Breeders packs;
Exotic Genetix Kimbo Kush
TGA Subcool Jilly Bean

Freebies
2 reserva privada tangie
2 WOS Afghan Kush
2 WOS Wild Thai
2 Med Man Brand Rock star Kush
2 Emerald Triangle Sour lemon OG
3 Exotic Genetix Mrs white Girl


After this last order is received I will have 5 or 6 packs of freebies containing 10-12 seeds each (breeders packs essentially).

 

[rmoltis]

Today's update.
End of week 3 flower is on Saturday.

But these are what I got before the hps fired up.

The ladies were defoliated exactly 1 week after flip. These pictures show almost 11 days of progression. The new branches have sprouted new fan leaves at the flower sites.


Here is a closeup of the Big Bagseed #1 internodal spacing.

The SDXQ plant genetically has long internodal distances but it is ".5-"1.5 shorter than when flowered under the m.h.

 

[incogneato]

I was gonna post about the seeds I received in the mail yesterday & today.

Breeders packs;
Brothers Grimm c99
Ace Seeds tikal
T.h. Seeds The Hog
Serious Seeds White Russian

Freebies
4 reserva privada tangie
4 WOS Afghan Kush
4 WOS Wild Thai
4 Med Man Brand Rock star Kush
4 Emerald Triangle Sour lemon OG
8 Brothers Grimm purple urkle (purple urkle × p75)
2 Serious Seeds Serious Happiness
2 T.H. Seeds Chicle


I have 1 more order on its way within the day or 2

It will be

Breeders packs;
Exotic Genetix Kimbo Kush
TGA Subcool Jilly Bean

Freebies
2 reserva privada tangie
2 WOS Afghan Kush
2 WOS Wild Thai
2 Med Man Brand Rock star Kush
2 Emerald Triangle Sour lemon OG
3 Exotic Genetix Mrs white Girl


After this last order is received I will have 5 or 6 packs of freebies containing 10-12 seeds each (breeders packs essentially).

Damn dude, I got seed envy lol. You have a nice collection going. They give some nice freebies, I'll have to check em out.