Mycorrhizal Fungi And Coco?

[Jasper Geist]

how about "Humbolt County's Own" ? was using AN but now use Humbolts - using AN never brought out the essential oil and trichome developement like Humbolts' (buds looked like it snowed o them" Now use AN 1 x a week (like a steroid) with humbolts 1 x a week (feed each system seperatly)

I used Humboldt County's Own and got the same results. My buds are purple.. some are almost black-purple... well, I think they are because I can't see through the crystals. ;)
Snow Storm Ultra is a keeper for any line-up. I think it's just concentrated triaconal (sp?) but it works.

The only thing I don't like about HCO is I just have a feeling that their recommended feed isn't right. PPMs seem too high and the ratios just seem off. In particular to the Cal and Mag ratios. And it seems like there's not enough N in Veg and too much in Bloom. But hell, what do I know???

I didn't like the G10 and used it for a couple of feedings and didn't like the way my plants responded.
Deep Breath on the other hand is great as a foliar in Veg (5ml / Gal).
SSU or Purple Maxx? I can't say Purple Maxx changes colors in a plant. Mine were going to be purple whether I wanted them to be or not. I think it's just another formulation of SSU and SSU is a lot less expensive.
I had a great foliar spray I used of Ful-Power, Kelp, and SSU. Plants loved it.
If I were growing in soil... I can only imagine that a proper tea with the same properties would be stupendous

 

[guymandude]

If AN is that easy I might try it, Im pretty sure they have a coco nute line.

they do but in my experience, it isn't necessary. I'm quite pissed off at AN at the moment. I started using AN in 09, in hand-watered coco.
this is what i used:

all in RO water
Veg
Sensi Grow A&B
Voodoo Juice
B52
Great White Myco
Sugar Daddy ( Techniflora)

Flower
Sensi Bloom A&B
B52
Big Bud
Bud Factor X
Over Drive
Sugar Daddy

I got fantastic results. AN got a wild hair up their asses, had some Yale scientists develop the ph perfect line of nutes, including the coco stuff and none of it has matched the results i got with the old stuff. AN recently re-released the old Sensi Bloom line and I am swithcing back to it. The stuff is pricey but it's realistically the same cost as the Canna stuff, and heads and tails above GH.

there is a nutirewnt calculator on the AN website that works very very well, btw

 

[Thejoeybrown]

haters gonna hate. period. have you ever used AN?

I switched to AN from GH years ago due to a study I read comparing plants grown with several different brands of nutrients: GH, Fox Farms, AN, Techniflora, Earth Juice, etc. Earth Juice and AN grew the biggest most healthy roots of any of the nutrients in the study. The Earth Juice buds tasted the best but the best yield went to AN and they also came in second for flavor. I get fantastic results. period. so you talk all the shit you want, cuz thats all it is. shit talk

I love it. When you finally follow what AN says to do it really works great IME which isn't much lol. Yes they cost a little more and I guess if you're running a warehouse it would make a noticeable difference but for most tent/smaller grows I think it's worth the couple extra bucks

 

[Jasper Geist]

Another great line up from some really smart cookies that have their Science down is Cutting Edge Solutions.
Inexpensive, good ratios, and not a lot of extra fluff. I don't don't know if you can call it "organic" but it comes damn close. It's Hydro friendly as well. Take a good look at them and I think you'll go "hmmm..." I'm testing it on one plant and it's responding great to it and I haven't had any deficiencies or burns. I suspect it will be my goto on the next round of bottle fed.

 

[guymandude]

I love it. When you finally follow what AN says to do it really works great IME which isn't much lol. Yes they cost a little more and I guess if you're running a warehouse it would make a noticeable difference but for most tent/smaller grows I think it's worth the couple extra bucks

trhe cost is comparable to running Canna

and if you follow the instructions, well, the stuff makes fantastic buds

 

[whitebob]

In my experience it don't work nearly as good(if atall) if it isn't in direct contact with the roots.thats why I never bother watering it into already potted plants.plus that great whites too bloody expensive to waste.if anyone knows of a cheaper alternative that works as good feel free to clue me in.

have a look at The Nutrient Company if you haven't already bud i got some bits on there for making teas. they are uk based and got a good selection of stuff on there... even if you don't need its quite an interesting read...;)

 

[Mr Bee]

have a look at The Nutrient Company if you haven't already bud i got some bits on there for making teas. they are uk based and got a good selection of stuff on there... even if you don't need its quite an interesting read...;)

Making Teas seems like to much trouble for me.i mean if u could by a ready made "tea bag" of goodness that u could get to brew I'd maybe do it.
Please excuse me for asking here but iv seen your avatar a few times and I gotta ask -is it a pointer or a wymariner?its hard to tell from the pic although I'm pretty sure it's one o those coz I used to have a German short hair pointer and theyr practically the same animal as a wymariner except a different colour.

 

[whitebob]

Making Teas seems like to much trouble for me.i mean if u could by a ready made "tea bag" of goodness that u could get to brew I'd maybe do it.

Please excuse me for asking here but iv seen your avatar a few times and I gotta ask -is it a pointer or a wymariner?its hard to tell from the pic although I'm pretty sure it's one o those coz I used to have a German short hair pointer and theyr practically the same animal as a wymariner except a different colour.

Making Teas seems like to much trouble for me.i mean if u could by a ready made "tea bag" of goodness that u could get to brew I'd maybe do it.

Please excuse me for asking here but iv seen your avatar a few times and I gotta ask -is it a pointer or a wymariner?its hard to tell from the pic although I'm pretty sure it's one o those coz I used to have a German short hair pointer and theyr practically the same animal as a wymariner except a different colour.

is that the picture of my orange and white hound with the big ears... if so its a spanish podenco.. she s awesome, a nutter but awesome.

 

[GanjaNGains]

will b fine great white works well I have used it in the past sprinkle across top when watering annlet water carry down to roots

 

[whitebob]

cancel what i said Mr Bee just realised i think you meant guymandude. just scrolled up and seen the mut you mean, pointer is my guess, i was slightly confused as my avatar is bob... I'm going to find a picture of my hound.

 

[d0rk2dafullest]

teas are worth the trouble of brewing. it just helps so much so many beneficial effects from making teas. and buying a tea bag rdy to go, i think is going to cost u a lot more. and u dont get as much, if u were to make your own, you'd have a lot more material to brew. rather than getting rdy to go bags to brew, cuz you would seriously get a lot less potent teas.

 

[Mr Bee]

is that the picture of my orange and white hound with the big ears... if so its a spanish podenco.. she s awesome, a nutter but awesome.

No I meant to ask someone else that (about the dog) and iv somehow asked u bob.

 

[jumpincactus]

In my experience it don't work nearly as good(if atall) if it isn't in direct contact with the roots.thats why I never bother watering it into already potted plants.plus that great whites too bloody expensive to waste.if anyone knows of a cheaper alternative that works as good feel free to clue me in.

Morning Mr. Bee there is a lot of discussion and research on mychos and our cannabis plant doesnt even really need it unless there is a p or a k shortage in the grow media. I would venture to say that with all the nutes we use deficiencies in early veg when we are developing our root zones arent an issue. The use of mycho's is way overrated in my opinion. :) More of a placebo effect. Most commercial brands of mychos failed miserably in studies and didnt even germinate or colonize the subject plants rootzones.......... Buyer beware!!! The only commercial system I know of that works as advertised is @Capulator s Biowar and bennies

 

[Saint Skinny]

I always preferred Oregonism XL and Recharge for benificials bc it already has kelp and molasses in it

 

[whitebob]

No I meant to ask someone else that (about the dog) and iv somehow asked u bob.

haha thats random any who my mut is now my avatar...! happy wednesday.

 

[Mr Bee]

haha thats random any who my mut is now my avatar...! happy wednesday.

He does look like a cool pooch though.
It was @guymandude,s avatar i was originally asking about

 

[guymandude]

Morning Mr. Bee there is a lot of discussion and research on mychos and our cannabis plant doesnt even really need it unless there is a p or a k shortage in the grow media. I would venture to say that with all the nutes we use deficiencies in early veg when we are developing our root zones arent an issue. The use of mycho's is way overrated in my opinion. :) More of a placebo effect. Most commercial brands of mychos failed miserably in studies and didnt even germinate or colonize the subject plants rootzones.......... Buyer beware!!! The only commercial system I know of that works as advertised is @Capulator s Biowar and bennies

i will add that in coco, the best plants i have harvested smelled like mushrooms when i took the coco out of the pot they plat was growing in. I beoieve that in coco, the addition of the root zone supplements does help.


That being said, I would so love to growing organic. I may be doing a test run with Emerald Harvest nutes in the near future. Heard great things about them.

 

[Mr Bee]

Morning Mr. Bee there is a lot of discussion and research on mychos and our cannabis plant doesnt even really need it unless there is a p or a k shortage in the grow media. I would venture to say that with all the nutes we use deficiencies in early veg when we are developing our root zones arent an issue. The use of mycho's is way overrated in my opinion. :) More of a placebo effect. Most commercial brands of mychos failed miserably in studies and didnt even germinate or colonize the subject plants rootzones.......... Buyer beware!!! The only commercial system I know of that works as advertised is @Capulator s Biowar and bennies

Tried to go down that route too but to get it all shipped to the Uk it was gonna cost way more to ship it all than it was for the actual biowar packs and I just thought "fuck it" and cracked on without em

 

[jumpincactus]

Tried to go down that route too but to get it all shipped to the Uk it was gonna cost way more to ship it all than it was for the actual biowar packs and I just thought "fuck it" and cracked on without em

I hear you man. Again, if your on a budget with your grows keep in mind if your using good soil or organic living soil you really dont need mychos. Been growing fine cannabis for a long time without it. Much love brother.!!!

 

[guymandude]

I hear you man. Again, if your on a budget with your grows keep in mind if your using good soil or organic living soil you really dont need mychos. Been growing fine cannabis for a long time without it. Much love brother.!!!

Very well said, my friend. it's truly all about what works for you, in the environment you create for your plants, in your geographical locale. When peeps realize this, there'll be far less trolls on the forums.