Council Of First Knowledge, Jedi Temple Training Facility

[Toph420]

Ya they stretched on you
U should of super cropped them bitches start week 2, day 7
Then threw that net on them
Then at 14 day mark
Lollipop everything under the net...
You would beast mode...
Will see how the racks u got work this time...

Yea theres a lot of stuff i shoulda done on that round that i didnt haha, I couldn't keep the RH below 55-60 for the last 4-5weeks even with a 30 pint dehumidifier + 6k a/c running 24/7..

How long till you can get your system up and running?

 

[Wisher619]

They're not that bad. My home got one materials and install for 1400. I'm sure its not the top model but it gets him right.

Alright Paw Paw, what's my best/fastest way to mother out this cut of gg#4 so I can run my whole room with her next run? Basically need to take her from rooted clone to 10-12 cuts to rooted clones in 2 1/2 months. Possible?

all of that in 2 1/2 months may be a little hard
but
when the GG is rooted throw it in a 5" square pot of coco and sit that in a cut tray

for your first feeding feed from the top heavy so 50% drains out the bottom

now feed from the top checking every day if there is any signs of roots at the bottom
once you see roots make a 1 gal mix of feed and fill the tray and allow the plant to drink from the bottom

your plant should be growing
start topping so that all canopy/branches are even
then let them grow then top
soo you will have a shit ton of clones

 

[EventHorizan]

Yea theres a lot of stuff i shoulda done on that round that i didnt haha, I couldn't keep the RH below 55-60 for the last 4-5weeks even with a 30 pint dehumidifier + 6k a/c running 24/7..

How long till you can get your system up and running?

i rode mine to 60% all the way to this week 7.. dropped 5% every week from there

3 weeks

 

[Toph420]

i rode mine to 60% all the way to this week 7.. dropped 5% every week from there

3 weeks

Nice! I really want to see your approach at this system.

I forget what i was keeping it at during the day but cch2o recommends like 40-50% RH at night time..

 

[incogneato]

Yes sir....
U need either
A. Single dwc bucket
Or
Coco with a tote, pump and timer.

My choice would be dwc bucket
But I threw coco out there since your familiar with it...

I'll be honest.. I was just trying to bait you into convincing me to try dwc lol!

And I will send the clone shipper to u :)

No doubt cuz! Took me awhile to get her in my stable but here we go!

all of that in 2 1/2 months may be a little hard
but
when the GG is rooted throw it in a 5" square pot of coco and sit that in a cut tray

for your first feeding feed from the top heavy so 50% drains out the bottom

now feed from the top checking every day if there is any signs of roots at the bottom
once you see roots make a 1 gal mix of feed and fill the tray and allow the plant to drink from the bottom

your plant should be growing
start topping so that all canopy/branches are even
then let them grow then top
soo you will have a shit ton of clones

Being honest again, I wanted to see what Wish had to say. Thanks guys. I'll get it going asap. I had pretty good results from the sips last time you had me try it. My only issue was keeping the nutes from going anerobic on me. They're organic. Hmmm...might be a good the to try out that cns17...

 

[EventHorizan]

I'll be honest.. I was just trying to bait you into convincing me to try dwc lol!

No doubt cuz! Took me awhile to get her in my stable but here we go!

Being honest again, I wanted to see what Wish had to say. Thanks guys. I'll get it going asap. I had pretty good results from the sips last time you had me try it. My only issue was keeping the nutes from going anerobic on me. They're organic. Hmmm...might be a good the to try out that cns17...

Hey not to sound like i always agree with wisher, but the sips method is a banger.. 1 cc.... Lmao
Sips saved my bacon when coco had me confused.
Do note that u only piyr as much as the plant can sip up, or better said, dont let the pot/bottom of plant sit in standing water.
You will have root issues.
Also this is not real great in half gal if your room is on the hot side which most of us dont give to veg what ee do to the flower room..
Mine needed watered by hand twice a day..
They almost died lol
So i put them in a automated flood table..



I still beat u in veg in my dwc
:)
"Rebel to the end"

 

[EventHorizan]

Nice! I really want to see your approach at this system.

I forget what i was keeping it at during the day but cch2o recommends like 40-50% RH at night time..

I will have 3 hurdles right off the bat..
1St hurdle will be getting my ec right with new system and new nutrients.
Then i need to understand the relationship between water temps and room temps because ive read where it effects rh...
So i will have to see.
I dont know if i will follow uc exact feed chart stuff.
I will error on the side of caution with nutes. Run the system as tho it was any other system...
Its gonna be EPIC#!
Lol hopefully...
Shit i got to do better than this coco run or wisher will never let me live that down....
For those that dont know...
Im in agreement with everything wish says,
But we back diff horses in this race..
He is all about that coco
And im
Once you go RDWC,
Lmao...
So i got to beat this run...
And coco gonna put up some #'s

So we have to just see.....

 

[Toph420]

I will have 3 hurdles right off the bat..
1St hurdle will be getting my ec right with new system and new nutrients.
Then i need to understand the relationship between water temps and room temps because ive read where it effects rh...
So i will have to see.
I dont know if i will follow uc exact feed chart stuff.
I will error on the side of caution with nutes. Run the system as tho it was any other system...
Its gonna be EPIC#!
Lol hopefully...
Shit i got to do better than this coco run or wisher will never let me live that down....
For those that dont know...
Im in agreement with everything wish says,
But we back diff horses in this race..
He is all about that coco
And im
Once you go RDWC,
Lmao...
So i got to beat this run...
And coco gonna put up some #'s

So we have to just see.....

Water temps id either follow their charts or just keep it at 68.. 68 is like the standard DWC water temp.. Any RH changes due to water temp changes would be very very minor if at all. I haven't noticed it at least..

For E.C. what I'm doing currently is just meeting the cch2o chart E.C. by the end of the week listed. (week 1 says E.C. of .2, i would start out lower and slowly bring it up to .2 E.C. by day 7..) Very curious to see how you do it.

With all the other knowledge you have from past grows i can't see you doing any worse than your coco runs unless you have an epic fail of some sorts.. (knock on wood..)

 

[EventHorizan]

Water temps id either follow their charts or just keep it at 68.. 68 is like the standard DWC water temp.. Any RH changes due to water temp changes would be very very minor if at all. I haven't noticed it at least..

For E.C. what I'm doing currently is just meeting the cch2o chart E.C. by the end of the week listed. (week 1 says E.C. of .2, i would start out lower and slowly bring it up to .2 E.C. by day 7..) Very curious to see how you do it.

With all the other knowledge you have from past grows i can't see you doing any worse than your coco runs unless you have an epic fail of some sorts.. (knock on wood..)

i think we be all right.. We might get a lil claw while i figure things out,
but figure them out I will.........

 

[EventHorizan]

Water temps id either follow their charts or just keep it at 68.. 68 is like the standard DWC water temp.. Any RH changes due to water temp changes would be very very minor if at all. I haven't noticed it at least..

For E.C. what I'm doing currently is just meeting the cch2o chart E.C. by the end of the week listed. (week 1 says E.C. of .2, i would start out lower and slowly bring it up to .2 E.C. by day 7..) Very curious to see how you do it.

With all the other knowledge you have from past grows i can't see you doing any worse than your coco runs unless you have an epic fail of some sorts.. (knock on wood..)

ya im gonna keep my res at 68..
that for certain..
I cant remember what the study was about water temps in relation to air temps caused something.......
Ya We just have to see!
First i got to get a water meter so i know how much water is in there

 

[Toph420]

ya im gonna keep my res at 68..
that for certain..
I cant remember what the study was about water temps in relation to air temps caused something.......
Ya We just have to see!
First i got to get a water meter so i know how much water is in there

I still don't have a water meter yet haha.. maybe someday.. there is a way to determine your system volume though. 6 site system is in the range of 40-50 gallons.

 

[incogneato]

Hey not to sound like i always agree with wisher, but the sips method is a banger.. 1 cc.... Lmao
Sips saved my bacon when coco had me confused.
Do note that u only piyr as much as the plant can sip up, or better said, dont let the pot/bottom of plant sit in standing water.
You will have root issues.
Also this is not real great in half gal if your room is on the hot side which most of us dont give to veg what ee do to the flower room..
Mine needed watered by hand twice a day..
They almost died lol
So i put them in a automated flood table..



I still beat u in veg in my dwc
:)
"Rebel to the end"

That's a very important note for anyone trying sips. That's the only time I had an issue is when I out too much feed in there and let it sit for too long. Tbh I heavily considered a dwc to do this in. Its probably faster than thus method. I already have everything I need to do it in coco so that made the decision easier.

 

[Thejoeybrown]

@Wisher619 when do you start clipping the top fan leaves? Here is about how big they are. I was thinking, and might remember you saying about 12"? They are 8-10" now

 

[Wisher619]

That's a very important note for anyone trying sips. That's the only time I had an issue is when I out too much feed in there and let it sit for too long. Tbh I heavily considered a dwc to do this in. Its probably faster than thus method. I already have everything I need to do it in coco so that made the decision easier.

so the very reason I say wait for sips until you see roots
is because if your roots arent established things can go wrong
but once established
I literally fill 1 gallon and pour it in the tray
and it is dry within 2 days
again.....when the roots are established

you can also make a super easy flood and drain out of a tote and a cement mixing tray from the DEPOT
a pump and f&d fittings

 

[Wisher619]

@Wisher619 when do you start clipping the top fan leaves? Here is about how big they are. I was thinking, and might remember you saying about 12"? They are 8-10" now

yeah once they reach 12"
you will notice that the side branching will explode once clipped

 

[EventHorizan]

so the very reason I say wait for sips until you see roots
is because if your roots arent established things can go wrong
but once established
I literally fill 1 gallon and pour it in the tray
and it is dry within 2 days
again.....when the roots are established

you can also make a super easy flood and drain out of a tote and a cement mixing tray from the DEPOT
a pump and f&d fittings

Cheap cheap...

 

[incogneato]

Cheap cheap...

And smart too. I'm gonna go with easy though and stay with the sips for now. Gonna hit amazon and get a gallon of cns17 for the hell of it too.

 

[EventHorizan]

And smart too. I'm gonna go with easy though and stay with the sips for now. Gonna hit amazon and get a gallon of cns17 for the hell of it too.

Homie u really need a flood table!
If we set you up with a flood table
1/2 or even 1 gal pots coco
cns17
a timer....
Wish is here to guide you with the cns17.
Flood and drain is
Soooooooio
Easy..
Flood 3x a day...

U would be so stoked...
U need timers in your life my brother!
:)

 

[EventHorizan]

Homie u really need a flood table!
If we set you up with a flood table
1/2 or even 1 gal pots coco
cns17
a timer....
Wish is here to guide you with the cns17.
Flood and drain is
Soooooooio
Easy..
Flood 3x a day...

U would be so stoked...
U need timers in your life my brother!
:)

Them concrete tubs are less than 20
But you make money, u can buy yourself a real 4x4 botanticare table for like 65.
You deserve it. It would bring order to your garden!
Lol

 

[Thejoeybrown]

I agree that would be the shit! I really like the idea of flood and drain I think I will end up trying that before I try a rdwc. But I love my DTW. I'm in no hurry to switch up but I will try one day.