Council Of First Knowledge, Jedi Temple Training Facility

[Thejoeybrown]

:smoking:
I switched mine at the start of week 3 in flower, right after my tea. There was no change at all.

That's a good point. If switching in the middle like that right after tea feeding would be the perfect time. Then water to extra run off thag first feeding and give it a nice full dose that first feeding

 

[Wisher619]

Only thing I didn't find on Amazon is +LIFE.

No hydroguard?

you can use hydroguard if you would like
only helps dosnt hurt
+life you need to order from the company specifically
https://hydroponic-research.com/products/life

I have used
CNS17
Maxibloom
GH 3part
Veg + Bloom

right now I am using RX green Solution
as I am testing for them and my grow shop to see if they want to carry it or not

not once have I ever had to use CalMg

I used it per Veg+Bloom instructions and got N tox
so I stopped using it

I have used grow formulas all the way through
I have used Bloom
formulas all the way through and everything inbetween
never had to use Calmg in coco

if you feed correctly and feed at the correct times....with the correct ppm for the plant with the correct ph you never need anything but your standard nutrients

in big agg they dont add calmg

of course they use a 2 part...as in
Calnit / nute mix
Cal is the N
Nute mix covers everything else

they usually start at 200ppm N and drop to 100ppm in flower
Nute mix always remains the same

in coco....and cannabis in general Cal should always equal or be just slightly above N

as in 100ppm N
130ppm Ca

this is where you can really dial in nutrients specific to your plants needs

takes a few years of cation exchange knowledge, RH, transpiration ect...

 

[Wisher619]

That's a good point. If switching in the middle like that right after tea feeding would be the perfect time. Then water to extra run off thag first feeding and give it a nice full dose that first feeding

that is actually what I do before flower flip

 

[Organikz]

@Thejoeybrown schooled me. After talking to Joe joe I was thinking about a peat/coco mix where the cation exchange alone would cover a lot. I think it would help more towards the single amendment mix organic farmers would aim for. The coco and peat should be trading potassium and magnesium back and forth.

Need a much better understanding on a few things to figure out ratios

 

[MW7945]

Soo... I'm terrible at figuring out much you'd need for a grow but I'm thinking this would be enough.

8oz SWEET Raw
8oz Pure Blend Tea
8oz Hydroplex
1 Qt CNS17 Grow
1 Qt CNS17 RIPE
1 Qt Silica Blast
2 Qt CNS17 Bloom

Already have enough hydrogaurd to last a while so that's irrelevant

 

[Wisher619]

Soo... I'm terrible at figuring out much you'd need for a grow but I'm thinking this would be enough.

8oz SWEET Raw
8oz Pure Blend Tea
8oz Hydroplex
1 Qt CNS17 Grow
1 Qt CNS17 RIPE
1 Qt Silica Blast
2 Qt CNS17 Bloom

Already have enough hydrogaurd to last a while so that's irrelevant

so how many plants are you gonna be running?
and how big are the pots
how many feed a day
all that should be good

 

[Wisher619]

@Thejoeybrown schooled me. After talking to Joe joe I was thinking about a peat/coco mix where the cation exchange alone would cover a lot. I think it would help more towards the single amendment mix organic farmers would aim for. The coco and peat should be trading potassium and magnesium back and forth.

Need a much better understanding on a few things to figure out ratios

I have been growing organic for a long time
I love organic produce
I also love organic cannabis

I really love growing cannabis in coco indoors

it is a total shift in thinking from organic to coco
and coco is even differ than hydroponics

but once you get it down....man it is super easy and amazing growth

 

[Thejoeybrown]

Soo... I'm terrible at figuring out much you'd need for a grow but I'm thinking this would be enough.

8oz SWEET Raw
8oz Pure Blend Tea
8oz Hydroplex
1 Qt CNS17 Grow
1 Qt CNS17 RIPE
1 Qt Silica Blast
2 Qt CNS17 Bloom

Already have enough hydrogaurd to last a while so that's irrelevant

If you go on botanicares site on the nutrient calculator it takes you thru a fun Lil q&a and asks you how many plant, size, veg time, and bloom time then tells you what size you need for the Grow. Try it out.

 

[Thejoeybrown]

Soo... I'm terrible at figuring out much you'd need for a grow but I'm thinking this would be enough.

8oz SWEET Raw
8oz Pure Blend Tea
8oz Hydroplex
1 Qt CNS17 Grow
1 Qt CNS17 RIPE
1 Qt Silica Blast
2 Qt CNS17 Bloom

Already have enough hydrogaurd to last a while so that's irrelevant

Also the 1 gal size Grow and bloom are like under 20$. If you get a gal of those and the quart size others I bet you'd be more than good. I get gal silica blast too.

 

[Wisher619]

Also the 1 gal size Grow and bloom are like under 20$. If you get a gal of those and the quart size others I bet you'd be more than good. I get gal silica blast too.

I agree
1gal grow
1gal Bloom
1gal ripe
1gal blast
and he is gonna like it
especially when his plants are lookin like a magazine model!!!

then he is gonna be.....ahhhh shitttt!!!

 

[Thejoeybrown]

I agree
1gal grow
1gal Bloom
1gal ripe
1gal blast
and he is gonna like it
especially when his plants are lookin like a magazine model!!!

then he is gonna be.....ahhhh shitttt!!!

100%. You guys saw my plants before and my plants this round.
They were really nice before but since the switch you can't help but notice the color and how lush and happy they are.

Here's a pic before flip just to show the real light and a pic now. And an example from my previous run with the old nutes. Same environment. A lil more experience. Much simpler diet.
No N tox at all and no tip burn. And I always had a lil tip burn.
They're thriving. And this is a seed run. When I dial them in it's gonna be magical in there. Lol

 

[incogneato]

U better be glad the game is on and I cant get wrapped up in a feud at the moment lol

Hahaha, I was disappointed in your reaction. I knew you had to be distracted

you can use hydroguard if you would like
only helps dosnt hurt
+life you need to order from the company specifically
https://hydroponic-research.com/products/life

I have used
CNS17
Maxibloom
GH 3part
Veg + Bloom

right now I am using RX green Solution
as I am testing for them and my grow shop to see if they want to carry it or not

not once have I ever had to use CalMg

I used it per Veg+Bloom instructions and got N tox
so I stopped using it

I have used grow formulas all the way through
I have used Bloom
formulas all the way through and everything inbetween
never had to use Calmg in coco

if you feed correctly and feed at the correct times....with the correct ppm for the plant with the correct ph you never need anything but your standard nutrients

in big agg they dont add calmg

of course they use a 2 part...as in
Calnit / nute mix
Cal is the N
Nute mix covers everything else

they usually start at 200ppm N and drop to 100ppm in flower
Nute mix always remains the same

in coco....and cannabis in general Cal should always equal or be just slightly above N

as in 100ppm N
130ppm Ca

this is where you can really dial in nutrients specific to your plants needs

takes a few years of cation exchange knowledge, RH, transpiration ect...

I know I've said it plenty before but it doesn't hurt to say it again. I appreciate you brotha. One of the main reasons my second run doesn't look like dogshit is from your sound advice. I try to keep up in here and I may not always have time to comment but I pay attention to what you're sharing. That goes for a few others in here too.

I agree
1gal grow
1gal Bloom
1gal ripe
1gal blast
and he is gonna like it
especially when his plants are lookin like a magazine model!!!

then he is gonna be.....ahhhh shitttt!!!

They really do look super healthy on that cns17, and it's so easy it feels like cheating!

 

[Thejoeybrown]

That leathery look is gone. I was happy with my nutes before and I had great results. But the little differences are huge and make a for a much healthier look

 

[incogneato]

100%. You guys saw my plants before and my plants this round.
They were really nice before but since the switch you can't help but notice the color and how lush and happy they are.

Here's a pic before flip just to show the real light and a pic now. And an example from my previous run with the old nutes. Same environment. A lil more experience. Much simpler diet.
No N tox at all and no tip burn. And I always had a lil tip burn.
They're thriving. And this is a seed run. When I dial them in it's gonna be magical in there. Lol

I noticed that too. No n tox and no tip burn. Just lush green leaves Nd my nodes are stacking nice!

 

[Thejoeybrown]

I noticed that too. No n tox and no tip burn. Just lush green leaves Nd my nodes are stacking nice!

I love that bro bits so nice to see no burnt tips. I used to have the nicest frostiest bud porn pics and all I would be able to look at was the burnt tips in the background. Hahah

 

[Thejoeybrown]

I noticed that too. No n tox and no tip burn. Just lush green leaves Nd my nodes are stacking nice!

Let's see them girls!!

 

[MW7945]

so how many plants are you gonna be running?
and how big are the pots
how many feed a day
all that should be good

I suppose I should've included that.

4 plants, 3 gal pots, fed once a day.

As far as costs, half of that stuff is only available in certain sizes on amazon right now so I was just going with that.

 

[Thejoeybrown]

I suppose I should've included that.

4 plants, 3 gal pots, fed once a day.

As far as costs, half of that stuff is only available in certain sizes on amazon right now so I was just going with that.

Ya so you'll be fine. And feeding once a day 3 gal pots are perfect. I used them. Makes sure it won't dry out too much. If you can feed a second time a day you can in 3 gal too.

Just make sure you got a good amount of runoff every feeding and feed you're full strength diet every watering. Do the weekly tea. I do mine Sunday morning. Lol

 

[Thejoeybrown]

Madden got tossed!
That should fire the cubbies up!

 

[incogneato]

I love that bro bits so nice to see no burnt tips. I used to have the nicest frostiest bud porn pics and all I would be able to look at was the burnt tips in the background. Hahah

That cookie was frosty af! You were prob the only one that saw those tips lol.

Let's see them girls!!

I'll get a current pic but this is just before I pimp slapped them down and flipped. I should correct myself too. I fed them the grow for 3 weeks in veg, fed an organic "tea" and then gave them bloom.

It's hard to snap a pic of all of them because I'm doing it through a 32" door.